2010 Mexican 2500 CTD

[Regcabguy]

I sat in a 2010 Mexican built, sold and registered 2500 4wd,qcsb CTD today. They've got the 6. 7 w/ EGR but no DPF nor the requirement for ULSD. Very comfortable and QUIET truck. Dodge raised the headliner up or made the cab a bit more upright providing a tad more headroom. Very impressive interior also.

 

[HBarlow]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could import and register Mexican trucks instead of the epa-laden crap we have to buy with an extra quarter mile of plumbing we don't want, reduced fuel economy, and reduced engine life?

 

[Regcabguy]

Yeah,it would be nice indeed. I imagine the owner'd love to eliminate the egr,but I don't know if the aftermarket tuners would be compatible with the Mexican ecm to fool it. The 4th Gen truck's build quality appears to be another step forward.

 

[DennyDay]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could import and register Mexican trucks instead of the epa-laden crap we have to buy with an extra quarter mile of plumbing we don't want, reduced fuel economy, and reduced engine life?

The number one problem in this country is the EPA, carb and others like them impose regulations and rules with NO Congressional oversite - - These organizations are far more responsibile for the economic condition of this country than any thing else - - including the banking fiasco. #@$%!

 

[bheiting]

The number one problem in this country is the EPA, carb and others like them impose regulations and rules with NO Congressional oversite - - These organizations are far more responsibile for the economic condition of this country than any thing else - - including the banking fiasco. #@$%!

When did the EPA get in the banking business? Sounds like something Glen Beck would come up with.

 

[DennyDay]

Said nothing about the EPA being in the banking business - - SAID THE EPA IS AS MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DECLINE OF OUR ECONOMY THAN IS THE BANKING INDUSTRY IS

 

[rscurtis]

C. D. Day is correct. I wonder how much the unemployed Detroit auto worker or Ohio steel worker is enjoying all the clean air and water as he sits on the front porch of his now worthless house. In the same venue, if the borders had been closed and immigration controlled, we might not have needed some of these draconian emission controls in the first place.

 

[Cosmo]

Detroit auto workers can blame their union bosses and greed around the table for their unemployment.

 

[Grizzly]

Detroit auto workers can blame their union bosses and greed around the table for their unemployment.

Wow, that's the truth.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Detroit auto workers can blame their union bosses and greed around the table for their unemployment.

Oh crap here we go again :-laf I like the mentality of the the Detroit area just watch Hardcore Pawn I just happen to flip by the show and heard the BS that some lady ( I use that term VERY loosely) was spitting out. If you can watch this and not think something BAD VERY BAD about these people then you my friend are a better man than I, Do ya think they mite be the out of work auto workers ? Naaaa Not these nice folks #@$%!

 

[ChrisOlson]

It just Always Amazes Me.



"its The Unions fault" well look at what is happening in the US today with the decline in the Middle Class. I never wanted to be rich. I wanted a decent Wage and health benifits. not to much to ask but the information below is not union funded or sponsored but the graph was developed by the US Dept of Labor. but used in different venues.



With Unions in Decline, so too is Middle Class Wealth | North Carolina's Union Movement



Wonk Room Report: As Union Membership Rates Decrease, Middle Class Incomes Shrink



Labor rage reflects deeper middle-class anxiety - Capitol and California - fresnobee.com



Newsvine - Graph shows 3 decade long decline of Unions and the Middle Class, while the Top 1% has rapid growth: Is this evidence of Class Warfare? (POLL)



Interesting reading.

pretty soon our wages will be low enough we all can move to Mexico and by that dodge that was made by Non union 3 dollar a day workers, or better yet as the Wage Class keeps seperating into 2 classes so that there is a Upper Class and a lower Class mexico and the US will be on a even playing field and we will all be lower class. But it is not Us the opnionated middle age crusty old men who will suffer it will be our children and grand children who will suffer. Unions made this country great all one has to do is pick up a history book or Google on the internet the information is there. maybe we will all be enjoying the Mexico version of the dodge with out the EPA and CARB stuff sooner than we think.

So i write this at the end of my saturday work day after 14 hours yes i am on OT because i am union, I have not been home in 3 months and living in my JUNKY USED LOW rent Forest river toyhauler but i have a Job and I woke up breathing. I hope some of you take the time to read the info provided and if you want more info on what the wages are in Mexico ask and I will provide them to you



anyway have a great day.



chris

 

[GHarman]

That dog dont hunt!

Detroit auto workers can blame their union bosses and greed around the table for their unemployment.

Sorry, Been down this road before. You sure have the right to not like unions.

Blaming unions for mismanagement of large corporations is like blameing former President Bush for our present economic mess:-laf!

Government regulations have far more impact on business decisions than unions. Lets start with tax Structure and off shore incentives. Example, please see;GE pays no taxes on billions in profit - KansasCity.com



PS; Sorry , Dont mean to Hijack this thread. Just had to answer something that I feel is based on false information.

The best place to further cuss and discuss this is in the political section. We've done plenty of coverage on this subject!

 

[RVTRKN]

Ya that makes since, you ever see the bumper sticker on a POS car/truck that says "live better work union" while I drive by in my new truck/car or Harley Davidson, that I bought with my money earned by non union labor. :-laf

 

[Edgemann55]

It just Always Amazes Me.



"its The Unions fault" well look at what is happening in the US today with the decline in the Middle Class. I never wanted to be rich. I wanted a decent Wage and health benifits. not to much to ask but the information below is not union funded or sponsored but the graph was developed by the US Dept of Labor. but used in different venues.



With Unions in Decline, so too is Middle Class Wealth | North Carolina's Union Movement



Wonk Room Report: As Union Membership Rates Decrease, Middle Class Incomes Shrink



Labor rage reflects deeper middle-class anxiety - Capitol and California - fresnobee.com



Newsvine - Graph shows 3 decade long decline of Unions and the Middle Class, while the Top 1% has rapid growth: Is this evidence of Class Warfare? (POLL)



Interesting reading.

pretty soon our wages will be low enough we all can move to Mexico and by that dodge that was made by Non union 3 dollar a day workers, or better yet as the Wage Class keeps seperating into 2 classes so that there is a Upper Class and a lower Class mexico and the US will be on a even playing field and we will all be lower class. But it is not Us the opnionated middle age crusty old men who will suffer it will be our children and grand children who will suffer. Unions made this country great all one has to do is pick up a history book or Google on the internet the information is there. maybe we will all be enjoying the Mexico version of the dodge with out the EPA and CARB stuff sooner than we think.

So i write this at the end of my saturday work day after 14 hours yes i am on OT because i am union, I have not been home in 3 months and living in my JUNKY USED LOW rent Forest river toyhauler but i have a Job and I woke up breathing. I hope some of you take the time to read the info provided and if you want more info on what the wages are in Mexico ask and I will provide them to you



anyway have a great day.



chris

Well said Chris I enjoy a decent retirement because of my Union-30 years in the IBEW. Blame the poor guy trying to make a middle class income is the new mantra. No one wants to look at the 1%er's that have taken this country apart piece by piece. 400 people in this good ol USA now have the wealth of 150 million!

Just look at how the top have increased there wealth in the last 30+ years and where the middle class is now. I'll get off my soap box now oh and by the way my 05 was built in Mexico and has given me 90K trouble free miles.

 

[Cosmo]

I'm not suggesting that we go off on a tangent here, but rather I was suggesting the unemployed auto worker look in the mirror when trying to figure out why his job was outsourced to begin with.

There is no denying it - the UAW has/had a strangle hold on the big 3. If the employers didn't kowtow to the union demands, production shut down. In the 40s through the 70s, profits were so fat that no demands were too great. Not so much anymore, and it has bitten the UAW in the toosh.

 

[GHarman]

I'm not suggesting that we go off on a tangent here, but rather I was suggesting the unemployed auto worker look in the mirror when trying to figure out why his job was outsourced to begin with.



There is no denying it - the UAW has/had a strangle hold on the big 3. If the employers didn't kowtow to the union demands, production shut down. In the 40s through the 70s, profits were so fat that no demands were too great. Not so much anymore, and it has bitten the UAW in the toosh.

Yep, I know what you are saying. Just like AIG, Wall Street, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. They thought the bubble would never burst. However. Thats what Management is supposed to do; lead and look ahead!

A contract is between more than one entity. IMHO,The union hands did their part, building the profit makers. If ya cant fulfull a promise, dont sign the contract! Unfortunately greed and lack of foresight is a common human failing.

The actual cost of servicing contracts is far less a factor than the corporate tax money saved and incentives paid by outsourcing overseas. Furthermore, Companies CAN sue for renegotiation based on economic peril(a little catch-all phrase in a contract)! However, very few have sought to make any effort to try to level the playing field, at home.

Numerous corporations have moved operations off shore to access greater tax sheltered profits. Union wages and benefits are a drop in the bucket, in comparison. If we continue down this "tax the rich and increased corporate tax" road, in the United States, you will see far more companies outsourcing off shore and the corresponding unemployment of the American workforce, regardless of union affiliation or "right-to-work" laws, through the roof! GregH

 

[HBarlow]

Labor union members are the largest voting block and biggest donors to the politicians who raise taxes on the top wage earners and corporations causing major manufacturers to move outside of our country. The high wages they demand also contributes to the same situation.

 

[GHarman]

Harvey, Kinda like cutting our own throat, isnt it:-laf?

I dont agree that L. U's are THE largest liberal voting bloc. I would really like to see an honest breakdown of donation sources and voting demograpics for the democrap party. I also wonder where/how foreign interests, such as George Soros, weigh in.

If we loose our corporations to tax friendly Countries, there will be no middle class! I am not ready to paint a B/W picture of whom to blame. I do agree that the method of corporate related jobs/wages/benefits/Tax Structure/incentives needs an overhaul , NOW!

An observation, I have not seen a reduction in the price of a vehicle since all this "restructuring"! MOF! The price of all basic living necessities has inflated, noticeably, over the last couple of years. Will wages keep up? Greg

 

[HBarlow]

Harvey, Kinda like cutting our own throat, isnt it:-laf?
I dont agree that L. U's are THE largestliberal voting bloc. I would really like to see an honest breakdown of donation sources and voting demograpics for the democrap party. I also wonder where/how foreign interests, such as George Soros, weigh in.
If we loose our corporations to tax friendly Countries, there will be no middle class! I am not ready to paint a B/W picture of whom to blame. I do agree that the method of corporate related jobs/wages/benefits/Tax Structure/incentives needs an overhaul , NOW!
An observation, I have not seen a reduction in the price of a vehicle since all this "restructuring"! MOF! The price of all basic living necessities has inflated, noticeably, over the last couple of years. Will wages keep up? Greg

Greg,

I didn't say organized labor is the largest liberal voting block, I just said they are the largest voting block for the politicians who raise taxes and regulations which drive companies out of the country.

Will wages keep up with inflation? Nope, not a chance. Millions who voted for the messiah have now lost their jobs, most of them permanently.

 

[ChrisOlson]

Labor unions are the largest voting BlocK???

Mr Barlow



Please correct me if I am wrong, BUT if MY numbers are right only 9% of the the USA work force is union at this point and when the Messiah as you say was elected it was 11% labor work force So By your statement only say 10 percent of the population voted???



Well as usual I will dispell your Anti Union soap box grandstanding Sir



Answers.com - What percent of eligible voters voted in the 2008 presidential election



and if you go to the Census Bureau they have a very nice link as to voting Demographics but i will high light some stastics for you



the below numbers are percentage of the population.

1996 election reg voters. 70. 9% those who really voted 58. 4%

2000 election reg voters. 69. 5% those who really voted 59. 4%

1996 election reg voters. 72. 1% those who really voted 63. 8%

AND the numbers for the Messiah election are

2008 the percent of voters who voted was 61. 7%



Things that make you go Hmmmmm union membership say 11% that is a 3rd of the actual voters so tell me Mr Barlow how the Unions are the evil doers who ruined this country again, Maybe some facts or links to substaniate your statements because If i was wrong i can admit it. kinda hard to really believe what you write with no facts, I challenge you Mr Barlow to point me to some hard evidence that the Unions have ruiend the USA.



and for the record I DID NOT Vote for OBAMA, I Voted INDEPENDENT.



So have a Great Sunday, again I am working a 14 Hour day in Portland OR on my Union Job still have not been home in 3 months and have only had 5 days off in 3 months. a far cry from the fat Lazy unskilled union labor that you suggest we all are.



again have a nice day



Chris