2013 Fuel Filter error and correct Part Numbers

[adventuredude]

Just for info I had a RAM dealer install the wrong fuel filter on my truck. Fortunately I caught it the next day as I was going over the invoice. Not knowing how commonly this is done, I thought I would warn everyone to double check your dealer or tech and make sure they are not being stupid.

For 2010 to 2012 Cummins 6.7 the filter and part numbers are as follows:
Mopar 68065608AA (Fleetguard FS43255)

For 2013 Cummins 6.7 the new filter part numbers are:
Mopar 68157291AA (Fleetguard FS53000)


Both are two stage filters. The difference is the 2013 new filters will filter down to 3 microns, whereas the older ones will only filter down to 5 microns.

HOWEVER the housing design is basically the same. Thus the older filters will install in new 2013 trucks. So be careful to install the proper filter and don't just assume small town RAM dealer tech will do the right thing. Since they don't need to be replaced till about 15,000 miles some techs may not have done that many on the new 2013 RAMs. In my case I am not sure if the tech was just being lazy, or what, but they didn't check and I had the wrong filter on my truck. Had I not closely inspected the invoice, I may have missed it.

 

[adventuredude]

In case you are curious, the reason I was checking the invoice that carefully is because the dealer had charged $65 for the filter. Yup that is not a typo... $65 !! They should be around $45.95. (Not service price... we are talking part price.)

 

[mwilson]

An outstanding example of why parts should be looked up by VIN.........Dealer should damn well have known better....

just sayin' for the benefit of some non-believers....

Mike.

 

[EDankievitch]

They (Fleetguard) told us about the new Nano net filters at the Cummins factory tour. The old filter is not wrong it's just old. Chances are it's the filter that the engine came with from the factory. The new filter is better, way better for more protection of the fuel system. When the older design are sold out (stock sold) the new filter will be the only one available.

 

[Jim W]

Most of the time the service technician walks up to the parts window on the service bay side and states they need so and so part; such as a fuel filter for a 2013 Ram diesel. Then a parts guy finds the parts and hands this out to the tech to be used. Depending on service level of some technicians some are just parts changers take this part out put this part in. I have seen this at all level of workmanship at various dealerships and working with service technicians in my 45 years of owning and design vehicles.

Jim W.

 

[sag2]

If it was not the "right" filter it would not have stayed running. The 13-14 filter housing has a device built in that will not allow the truck to run if the incorrect filter is installed. This was covered in detail by the Chrysler rep at May Madness last year.

 

[adventuredude]

If it was not the "right" filter it would not have stayed running. The 13-14 filter housing has a device built in that will not allow the truck to run if the incorrect filter is installed. This was covered in detail by the Chrysler rep at May Madness last year.

If you had noticed the comments and had read the entire information, you would have observed that the older filter will and do work... they just do not offer the same level of protection and are NOT what is listed as the "proper" filter for the 2013 RAMs. So in my opinion that is not the "right" filter.

 

[sag2]

So I stand corrected. The 2010-2012 filters were not supposed to have the no filter no run feature. But pulled both filters from the part department and the older filter has the part to depress the ball in the no filter no run standpipe. It isn't like it is going to really harm something, especially if your fuel source is good and clean. The 2013-2014 filter provides better protection for the fuel system, so as was mentioned make sure they sell you the correct filter.

 

[TJJEEPER]

Just to make sure I have this correct, I can install the newer filter in my 2012 for increased protection?
I was thinking about adding a kit for the 2 micron filter but if the new filter is a 3 micron, I think that would be enough.

 

[orhusky]

I am wondering if they changed the lift pump on the 13/14 trucks to help overcome the more restrictive 3mc filter, is the new filter truly backwards compatible or will the fuel flow/pressure be diminished on a 10-12 truck? Does any one know what the PSI spec range is on a stock lift pump for a 2010-2012? Is it different on the 13/14's?

 

[gtoli]

I use the new filter in my 2010 with no issues. Feel better about the extra protection.

 

[sag2]

Dodge has never used a pressure spec for fuel. They always use volume for their diagnostic. I know the original dual filter setup that was only on the market for a short time really had an influence on flow. I believe that is why they redesigned it to the new style accessory dual filter available today.
If you want to make an unscientific test, remove the quick disconnect going to the CP3 from the filter when you are getting ready to change it. Measure the volume for 30 seconds. You may have to run the pump a couple of times to get the 30 second total. Then install the better filter and run the test again. If the new filter flows more volume than the old dirty filter by a safe margin, run it and then check flow again at 5,000 mile intervals. As long as the 13-14 filter can pass the same volume as a dirty 10-12 filter you should be safe.
You could also run the test with two new filters, but remember the 13-14 filter will most likely restrict flow more than the 10-12 as it gets dirty.

 

[TCDiesel]

The GP pulls 25hg, it can easily pull thru both filters, My in tank pump failed at 260 miles. I had already planned on installing Auxiliary dual pumps Post #s 128-129 https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?238687-4Th-Gen-impressions/page4 the dealer handed Me the New Module and Chris install it... I was going to hook up My vacuum pump to see if I could pull thru the New in tank pump but Chris Install it before I could test it. I have had 2 fuel related problems with My 1st 13 , the 1st back in June water contamination Form Holiday Station in Blaine ,the 2nd on the 1st cold snap in Dec on the marginal fuel purchase form the same Station, ( I'm done with Holiday) Yes the rear heater was off but the fuel clouded at 0 and the temp was -16, I engage the Auxiliary bypass put the truck in the Shop and thats when I confirmed the Heaters off , I say heaters BC the engine filter heater was not working also. I will pull the fuel pump relay with truck running and see if the CP3 GP can pull thru the systems and report back, Also the 13 factory tank is robust and is dual walled.

I would NOT waste 1 micro second on the 3 VS 5 micron difference. WHAT % of the extra 2 mics actual travel thru on the 1st Pass?

 

[TCDiesel]

Here's the link for NO fuel heater(s) https://www.turbodieselregister.com...ost-2013-and-some-2014-NO-fuel-heater-engaged

 

[gsbrockman]

Just for info I had a RAM dealer install the wrong fuel filter on my truck. Fortunately I caught it the next day as I was going over the invoice.

Was the rear frame mounted separator changed as well???