2019 Ram HD Changes

[jgillott]

My experience is considerably greater than yours. What I drive in a month you might in a year. Terrain, climate and conditions are yet more differences. And then decades.

And, yes, for the competent driver they’re not only an annoyance but a hindrance. They’ll act when I don’t need them to, and throw off the timing of maneuvers necessary to avoid problems.

Go back to your vid screen. If crutches for bad drivers suit you, so be it.

Traction control, stability control and anti-lock are great. Not these others.

I've logged well over 2 million miles since beginning to drive commercial trucks in 1991. The first 11 years were behind the wheel of a Ford 9000 with a 3208 CAT and a strait 5 speed. Vinyl spring seat, no air, the heat didn't work, and it had a steering wheel the size of a table. There is very little that you can tell me about driving, over the road or otherwise, with all the miles you drive per month. Know who you are talking to before you throw out your little jabs or insults.

You are welcome to choose not to embrace new technology for what it is for, but there are quite a few of us who appreciate the tools that are available to enhance the driving experience. Sure, there are some who rely on those things instead of actually knowing how to drive. But that isn't all of us and I think I've earned the right to enjoy a little luxury and the modern driving experience.

 

[Eagle6.7L]

Just a update on the 2020,not the 2019 next generation Ram 2500/3500,it was reported to a conference call to vendors of this redesign that the next gen 2020 will be support by Saltillo in Jan 2019.FCA Reps said that early builds are being built through April of this year 2018.With preproduction models starting in Oct.Then after preproduction they will move to Warren Truck.So FCA has finalized the truck's spec's and demension's and are currently producing prototypes for evaluation,and confirmation of design specs.Cummin's has reported that it has already finished it's next generation powertrain design for the 2020 Ram 2500/3500.So they are well ahead,Ram engineering.I am placing bets that due to the well recieved 2019 Ram 1500 I would expect nothing short of the same interior design.Including the flat floor concept.I doubt that the truck will be stretched due to the fact the current Ram 2500 SRW can easily be parked in a standard garage.I think as well the Ram 3500 SRW too.I expect as well a Cummin's reconfiqured emission system to allow for a larger fuel tank,which might nessitate the placement of the larger DEF tank to be shifted to the opposite side of the frame.Much discussion has been talked around now as 2020 Ram 2500/3500 prototype's have been seen around the country doing testing,both by RAM,Cummins.Also tlked at the Houston press show was will the Ram 2500/3500 look real close to the 2019 Ram 1500 and how will they enlarged the design to accomidate the larger cooling requirements of the next generation Cummins diesel.Towing numbers are gonna be huge,and some at the Houston show were speculating that the Ram 4500 will become the answer to Ford F-450 in terms of higher towing goose/5th wheel.And a Limited option interior look.

 

[NIsaacs]

[h=1]CUMMINS REVEALS EGR-FREE NEW ENGINE LINEUP FOR STAGE V AT BAUMA[/h]11 April 2016
Simpler Architecture Delivers 10 Percent More Power And 20 Percent More Torque For 100 HP To 430 HP Engine RangeMUNICH – Today at Bauma, Cummins Inc. (NYSE: CMI) revealed a new generation of ultra-low-emissions engines spanning from 100 hp to 430 hp (75-321 kW) designed to meet 2019 European Union (EU) Stage V emissions regulations with simpler, EGR-free architecture and Single Module™ aftertreatment technology. The newly named F3.8, B4.5, B6.7 and L9 engines leap ahead of their Stage IV/Tier 4 Final equivalent engines with over 10 percent more power and almost 20 percent more torque averaged across the range.
“Removing Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) allowed us to realize the full potential of the engine for Stage V without increasing displacement size. Our 12-liter engine already pointed the way forward for a successful EGR-free design at Stage IV, so we were able to cascade this simpler approach down through the power range. No EGR also means there is less to cool, which will help lower the cost of OEM integration,” said Jim Fier, Cummins Vice President – Engineering, speaking at the Bauma engine reveal.
Improvements to fuel efficiency will result in the overall fluid cost of the new Stage V engines reducing by 3 percent on average depending on application, compared to those of Stage IV. The engine operating costs will be further reduced with an achievable 1,000-hour oil change interval, twice as long as the current 500 hours.

Keep in mind the 10%/20% power increase is an average of the four engines listed. However, the new 2019/tier 5 agriculture specs are out and the B-6.7 had a huge jump in torque. From tier 4 @760 to current level of 1014

Ram better get on the ball or they will be behind the power curve.

https://cumminsengines.com/showcase-item.aspx?id=348&title=B6.7+(Stage+V)+for+2019&#overview

Nick

 

[EDankievitch]

I spoke to a high up at the Cummins plant tour last Summer. She said she was working on the 2019 6.7 at that time.

2019 is a BIG deal year. It's Cummins 100yr and Cummins/RAM 30yr anniversaries. I will most likely be getting a new 19.

Hmmm.... Hey Mr Patton this sounds like an awesome time to plan another visit to the Cummins plant don't it !!!

 

[EDankievitch]

I hope that the new 2500/3500's do not look like the very ugly 1500's. And I'd really like a simpler truck more basic. Hmmm maybe some thing more like that concept Power Wagon they teased us with a few years back?

 

[Wayne M.]

Yea not liking the ‘19 1500 at all! Looks like a mash up of GM and Toyota. I really hope they make a separate HD truck and keep our identity.

 

[slowmover]

I've logged well over 2 million miles since beginning to drive commercial trucks in 1991. The first 11 years were behind the wheel of a Ford 9000 with a 3208 CAT and a strait 5 speed. Vinyl spring seat, no air, the heat didn't work, and it had a steering wheel the size of a table. There is very little that you can tell me about driving, over the road or otherwise, with all the miles you drive per month. Know who you are talking to before you throw out your little jabs or insults.

You are welcome to choose not to embrace new technology for what it is for, but there are quite a few of us who appreciate the tools that are available to enhance the driving experience. Sure, there are some who rely on those things instead of actually knowing how to drive. But that isn't all of us and I think I've earned the right to enjoy a little luxury and the modern driving experience.

Doesn’t change the answer about the usefulness of the gadgets. Nor the rest of the response.

They’re not luxuries. They’re hindrances. Have fun controlling the vehicle when it matters. Your timing will be well off with these devices.

You’ll need to know how to override or cancel them.

If you wish to include yourself with incapable drivers by continuing in this vein, you’re doing great.

The “modern driving experience “ is smartphone GPS which takes Third Worlders who can’t read a map to achieve the same end. They school like fish (look for a pack to join; speed to the next rear bumper) and haven’t even a foggy notion of the physics of a 75-mph chain collision.

If you think built in collision avoidance is an advantage, you’re sorely mistaken.

These things are merely the steps to removing you as the driver. Those that have no moral agency are fine with that. “Honor” and response-ability aren’t what they’re capable of.

 

[jgillott]

Doesn’t change the answer about the usefulness of the gadgets. Nor the rest of the response.

They’re not luxuries. They’re hindrances. Have fun controlling the vehicle when it matters. Your timing will be well off with these devices.

You’ll need to know how to override or cancel them.

If you wish to include yourself with incapable drivers by continuing in this vein, you’re doing great.

The “modern driving experience “ is smartphone GPS which takes Third Worlders who can’t read a map to achieve the same end. They school like fish (look for a pack to join; speed to the next rear bumper) and haven’t even a foggy notion of the physics of a 75-mph chain collision.

If you think built in collision avoidance is an advantage, you’re sorely mistaken.

These things are merely the steps to removing you as the driver. Those that have no moral agency are fine with that. “Honor” and response-ability aren’t what they’re capable of.

I honestly don't know how to respond to you. It's been a long time since someone has left me speechless. So congratulations, you have accomplished something that not many have not been able to do.

I simply can't comprehend why you are taking this so personal. Is it such a stretch of your imagination that someone would admit that they like modern developments in automotive safety/vehicle design? If that makes me a substandard driver and unworthy of your greatness, so be it! I gladly bow down to you and your superior abilities.

 

[SnoKing]

I honestly don't know how to respond to you. It's been a long time since someone has left me speechless. So congratulations, you have accomplished something that not many have not been able to do.

I simply can't comprehend why you are taking this so personal. Is it such a stretch of your imagination that someone would admit that they like modern developments in automotive safety/vehicle design? If that makes me a substandard driver and unworthy of your greatness, so be it! I gladly bow down to you and your superior abilities.

Lots of newbies have a hard time settling into the forum! The high horse they ride in on seems to tall for them to dismount!

 

[SnoKing]

I honestly don't know how to respond to you. It's been a long time since someone has left me speechless. So congratulations, you have accomplished something that not many have not been able to do.

I simply can't comprehend why you are taking this so personal. Is it such a stretch of your imagination that someone would admit that they like modern developments in automotive safety/vehicle design? If that makes me a substandard driver and unworthy of your greatness, so be it! I gladly bow down to you and your superior abilities.

Lots of newbies have a hard time settling into the forum! The high horse they ride in on seems to tall for them to dismount!

 

[jgillott]

Lots of newbies have a hard time settling into the forum! The high horse they ride in on seems to tall for them to dismount!

That's a great way to put it. Thanks

 

[jgillott]

Lots of newbies have a hard time settling into the forum! The high horse they ride in on seems to tall for them to dismount!

That's a great way to put it. Thanks

 

[Oz_Ram]

A couple things I'd like to see:
1. Larger factory fuel tank, like 50 gallons. I've installed aftermarket ones in both my 2011 and 2016.
2. A Ram 4500 pickup so basically a chassis cab with a bed. Be helpful for the heavy weight triple slide truck campers. Higher rear axle ratings.
3. better headlights. still this is an issue....our 2007 Camry Hybrid has better lights than my 2016.....
4. Mega Cab with the longbed option.....I know, I know, it'd be long. LOL.

And I just assume when it comes out, they'll have the highest torque rating that year.

Love my 2016.

I wish too!

 

[dfb]

I wish too!

id love to see on our trucks?!. RAM INSTALLS A DASH WARNING WITH A LOUD "DINGER" TO ALERT US OUR TURN SIGNAL IS ON... I GOT AN IDEA....HOW ABOUT A TURN SIGNAL WITH A LOUD DINGER TO BEGIN WITH.?

 

[jacknife]

I know one thing for sure that the 19s will have and that is a higher price !!!

 

[Spooled-up]

Well, after 8 years without a truck, I have a dilemma. I'm just about ready to buy one and now have been teased with the awesome new interior of the 5th generation truck. From the article on the TDR home page "Made In The USA – You Will Like This Press Release from FCA", they state that the 5th generation will be a 2021 model which I assume will be available sometime in 2020. That's 2 years away! Other things I read say that it may be earlier. Here are some spy photos of the 2019 "slightly refreshed":

Will this truck have the new EGR free engine as a 2019 model and stick around for a couple years until the 5th generation refresh?

 

[Regcabguy]

You should hope it's not as drastic change as the new Super Duty. I don't like the cab and bed construction at all. Very weight conscious.

Don't haul hay in one using the bedrails. I know of an owner who routinely carries hay and stacks up some at an angle to hold everything in. It bent the side rails. Ford said to beat sand. Definitely get a bedmat. She thought she'd try a Ford.

 

[RACE427]

I would say the re-freshend or re-tweaked older body style with the emissions free Cummins 6.7 using the exhaust system to treat the waste gases would be the best scenario for a new HD 2500 or 3500. This works if one likes the current body style that has been around for quite a while. It does not bother me one bit as I happen to like things the way they are. Betting the Torque output goes up a bit if one orders the Aisin auto trans. Now, if they released a HD 2500 or 3500 with a REBEL theme, that might change things and make the decision a little bit tougher.

 

[Tinman]

As far as I'm concerned there are only 2 important issues for the future Cummins: 1) If and when there is going to be a EGR-free/after treatment only emissions and 2) When - not if- the ECM Will be locked down/gateway key restricted/encrypted, so it is completely un-tunable. An OEM 400hp no egr engine would be assume. But I think I'd rather have a tunable/deleteable EGR engine so I may be forced to buy a 18/19. The rest is just fluff to me unless the truck is just butt ugly.