24 valve engine destroyed at 13k

[dslcummins]

It surprises me that DC has repaired these engines under warranty. I don't remember the year it was, but it doesn't seem all that long after I bought my 92, that Dodge came out with a letter on this subject. I received one, it stated that they have had engines damaged from using filters other then Mopar and that my engine warranty would be voided, if filters other then a Mopar, were used.
This is basically what they said, so I used Mopar filters from then on, for at least the warranty period.

Rodney


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92 2500 Reg. Cab LE
Dark Spectrum Blue and Silver 4x4 Auto
PW Injectors, 232,000 miles
16cm2 housing, Isspro guages.

 

[DOWG]

It is amazing that the engine was fixed under warranty; the Service Manager at the DC shop I used to go to saw a Fram oil filter on my truck and told me to get rid of it immediately. In fact, when I went inside to buy a replacement, he gave me the Mopar filter at no charge. He said the same thing about the Fram's filter paper coming apart and clogging the oil injectors that spray on the cylinder walls. He said if the Fram filter was found to be the problem it would not be a warranty repair.

Good advice.

Good advice and good service should be acknowledged; the DC shop was Manuel Dodge in Richardson, Texas.

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1998 Driftwood Extended Cab,Short Box,12 Valve,4X4,Auto,Dunrite TC,3. 54,Banks Plate,AFC Spring Kit,Isspro EGT,Rickson 19. 5's,Abbott EPRA, Rancho Shocks,Heim Trackbar,Mag-Hytec transmission Pan & Pumpkin Cover,Amzoil Synthetic's,Ranchhand Bull Nose Front Bumper, Headache Rack,Tool Chest,Side Steps,Rear Bumper and 100% Stock Airconditioning.

 

[Big-D]

I've been using Baldwin (B339)and questioned the high oil pressure readings with the owner from which I purchase. According to him, if the Baldwin oil filter fails, Baldwin will stand behind the repair/replacement of the engine.

Thus far ('99 with 10K) and 3 oil/filter changes I haven't noticed any abnormalities in the filter. No leaks, no oil added between changes and the filter shape is normal after removal. Plan to send in an oil sample on the next change just to see how things are "breaking in".

I wouldn't use a Fram filter on my lawn mover if you gave them to me.

 

[TowPro]

I beleve Baldwin is good, but when the Cummins filters (fleetguard) are so cheep through Gino's, why bother taking a chance?

Originally posted by Big-D:
I've been using Baldwin (B339)and questioned the high oil pressure readings with the owner from which I purchase. According to him, if the Baldwin oil filter fails, Baldwin will stand behind the repair/replacement of the engine.

Thus far ('99 with 10K) and 3 oil/filter changes I haven't noticed any abnormalities in the filter. No leaks, no oil added between changes and the filter shape is normal after removal. Plan to send in an oil sample on the next change just to see how things are "breaking in".

I wouldn't use a Fram filter on my lawn mover if you gave them to me.

 

[Lube Man]

What about Amsoil full flow filters? Do they stand up to the higher pressures?

 

[porky]

John-WA
I really enjoy being in the country, here in SW Missouri but it's sure been cold!!!! We got about 16 inches of snow a few weeks ago and it's been below freezing ever since!!! The block heater really makes a difference in starting and warm up!!! I'm glad to report that Joplin, MO, about 20mi SE of me has a big Cummins dealer and that's where I buy my Cummins approved oil and fuel filters and my premium blue 2000 oil. 50,000 miles on my truck and absolutely no problems and it uses no oil at all! Don't ever use cheap oil or filters!!! Take care, Sam

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1999 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie SLT Quad cab named "QUADZILLA". 24 valve Cummins ISB Turbo Diesel. Fully Modified Automatic transmission. Dana 70 anti-spin 3. 54 rear end. All Factory options except leather interior. Towing and camper package. AIR LIFT SuperDuty 5000# rear air bags, Custom exhaust system. K&N air filter. Resonator removed. Boost and pyro gauges. Dodge molded mud flaps. Diamond brite chrome tool box. Full UHF-VHF-HF mobile transceivers with matching antennas. KF6GUW EXTRA CLASS LIC.
Diesel Dynamics Stage I injectors, Boost module and wastegate fitting !!!
Dunrite custom built 618LW 1800 RPM-stall converter and heavy duty performance built complete transmission. Redline synthetic ATF. Mag-Hytec #727 Transmission Pan.
2000 New Holland Boomer TC40D Tractor. 4 cyl diesel!


"I love the smell of diesel in the morning"

 

[willyslover]

well look who posted ... been missing ya Sam. . need your views of life to keep me going. . hehehe
BTW my wife has a lot of family in Joplin area. . anyone last name of Moore might be related to Sharon. . small world.
Gary

 

[DHatfield]

Ed the Amsoil filters have no problems with cold temps as I have driven in -10 degress below zero temps with the Amsoil filter (SDF-80) and my filter has not exploded yet and with you being in California you will be alright.

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2001 2500HD Quad Cab SLT SB 4x4, HO Cummins, 6-speed, 3. 55 gears, LSD, brightwhite/driftwood, 4w ABS, camper and trailer tow packages, HD transfer case, snow plow prep, group, cab lights, Isspro Boost and Pyrometer gauges mounted on A-pillar, 4" JRE exhaust, BD exhaust brake. 22500 miles as of 11/11/00.

1980 CJ-5, Modified for off-road use, bobbed fenders, 350 TBI, NP435 trans, 4. 56 gears, Dana 300, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 reverse-cut rear axle, ARB air lockers front and rear, 15/35/15 Super Swamper TSL on 10X15 steel rims, Cobra CB, Warn 9000I winch, nerf bars, 1/4" steel rock crawler bumper front and rear, jerri can/spare tire rack, custom roll cage.

 

[FL60cummins]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FRAM SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jwskrintney]

I have owned a 95, 97, 99, and 01 Dodge cummins. I have used nothing but Wix filters on my trucks. I discovered just today that the fuel filter sold by Wix is made by Fleetgaurd... not sure about the oil filter but it looks identical to the much higher priced Mopar filter that came on my trucks. My Oil filter costs about $7. 00 and my fuel filter is just under $15. 00. I have never had any kind of problem with the Wix filters and I know lots of people who use them on the Cummins engines. They are not as cheap as the Fram puke P. O. S. filers but they are reasonably priced filters that do an excellent job of protecting the investment that I have in my truck.

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2001 3500 QC 6 spd/HO engine leather SLT 60 gal tank Jacobs exhaust brake power everything electric brake controller cobra CB wrap around rear pipe bumber with auxiliary BU lights bug shield and SS Step bars. Lifetime NRA member

 

[Dennis Garrett]

See TDR Issue #11,Winter 1996 p. 79. "Wix 51604, NAPA 1604, Big A 92604 or Carquest 8564 can possibly break down, clog piston cooling nozzle, and ruin your engine". These were recalled filters. I doubt if any of these filters are still on the shelf, but they caused problems, & make sure they don't wind up on your truck.