285/75/17 E Rated Toyo Open County AT2....Photos, Feedback??? Please!

[lawdog1]

I am considering a set of Toyo Open County AT2 E rated (10 ply) 285/75/15 for my 2012 Ram 2500. I will be doing a 2 inch level in the front and silver Bilsteins at all four corners at the same time, so rubbing and clearance will not be an issue. I am leaning to this particular tire and size over a 315/70/15. My reasons, I want an AT for wear/hwy usage while still having a bit of offroad capability, I tow a fair amount, around 8K, but want to maintain the capability to tow more....so I don't want a D rated tire, I like the look of this tires, and the reviews of it I have read seem generally very positive (but not a lot of reviews are 3/4 or 1 ton trucks....). Also the 315's in AT style look a bit balloonish in my humble opinion...I had a set of BFG AT's in 315 on my '03, and I am thinking I should go a bit smaller I want to have a bit more wheel well clearance but still have a good sized tire.

I would like to gather feed back on the Toyo Open County AT2 tire if anyone has any (wear/longevity, on road, off road performance, towing capability, noise, wet/dry pavement performance opinions, how you use it, how long you have had them.) Also I would like feed back on the 285/75/17 size...I think it is a great compromise between a 315/70 and a 285/70 and should be just what I want, but I want to gather other opinions who may have faced and made the same choice before. Also if anybody has any photos of their Ram with the Toyo AT2 in 285/75/17, I would love to see them. Thank you for the input, I value the opinions and experience I gather on TDR!!

 

[NickSullivan]

I liked them on my 2012 and we have a set on my wife's 4Runner. They did pretty well in the mud, not as well as the previous mud tires I have always had but they are nice and smooth. I do not like them on my wife's 4Runner, I think the tread compound might be a little too hard for what the 4Runner weighs. They slip around on the wet pavement. This is only with her 4Runner, I have never had an loss of traction that I didn't expect in my truck.

 

[CMeese]

I have them on my 2013 3500 285/75 /18. They are Open Country AT2 Extreme. 34.8" dia. No rubbing on std 3500 suspension, and spare fit up underneath. Only have 7k on them and they are very quiet all things considered. I pull a Montana 5th wheel and they performed perfectly on a 4800 mile trip. Got them at Les Schwab in Wa and they have a good tread wear warrenty, think it's 65k. I am totally satisfied and recommend them.

 

[wyosteve]

I did what you're thinking of. I ran 315/70/17's on my 04.5 and while they were a great tire, they were just a bit too big for me. When I got this 2012 3500 SRW, I put 285/75/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers on. The Nitto is close to a twin for the Toyo's. The Nittos are E rated. They have been an ok tire. Not great on snow or mud, but adequate. The one area I'm a bit disappointed is on wear. I just turned 26k miles and they are getting down to their last legs. I might eke 30k out of them, but that's about it. My previous BFG ATKO's would give me 50k to 55k. I'm actually planning to get different wheels and go to either a 275/70/18 or 275/65/20 BFG AT KO, which are both E rated.

 

[NickSullivan]

The Toyo and Nitto are different tread compounds. The Nittos have a reputation for wearing fast, the Toyos wear well.

 

[lawdog1]

Thank you all for your comments on the tires. I have read that the P Metric Toyo's have a 65K warranty, the LT tires are 50K. Either way that is high mileage for an AT tire. I am going to do a bit more research but think the Toyos in 285/75/17 will carry the day.

 

[seafish]

Thank you all for your comments on the tires. I have read that the P Metric Toyo's have a 65K warranty, the LT tires are 50K. Either way that is high mileage for an AT tire. I am going to do a bit more research but think the Toyos in 285/75/17 will carry the day.

Hope that you are NOT planning on running the Pmetric tires..those are specifcally rated for automobiles, NOT trucks!! The LT (light truck) tires are the ones you want, no matter the warranty. Iran the Toyo AT Open Country on my truck and really enjoyed the way they handled and wore. I would run the AT2 in a heartbeat, except I have swapped out to 19.5 wheels and commercial tires.

 

[lawdog1]

I am going to get the 10 ply, E rated, 285/75/17....and they come with the warranty they come with. I'll admit a little confusion on where the P metric/LT line is since this model tire is an AT tire for SUV's/trucks....my thought was the "285" might be a metric tire whereas a 33/12.50 or 35/12.50 would be LT tire, but that may be a simplistic guess given the E load rating. Again I don't know how/where Toyo draws the line between the two and I am not buying the tire for the warranty, it is what it is,...I will buy the correct tire for my application as indicated above.

 

[JR]

285/75/17 Nitto on 4th gen wheels

I believe proper balancing is key to longevity, especially the larger and heavier the tire. When I had mine installed I took them to a guy I know and trust, 3 of the tires balanced easily with minimal weights but 1 was off and he spent quite a bit of time getting it right. I wonder if the average tire tech gets them close and calls it good when faced with a similar situation....
I have since went to the Centramatics, hoping to get some good mileage out of them.

 

[JJPage]

I ran 285/75/18 E rated Toyo Open Country AT's(not AT2's) on my 03 for a couple of months. The truck tracked like it was on rails, steered like never before, and I loved the appearance of the tall thin tires. The problem I had was the shaking, they would balance perfect but starting around 30 mph, it would start shaking, actually jiggling my beer belly until about 45 mph. At highway speeds , the shaking was not noticeable, why? I don't know.

Les Schwab worked with me diligently, trying to resolve the issue, the problem was that they were out of round. They showed me the tires on their balance machine, as balanced from the printout, but definitely out of round. Les Schwab checked about a dozen tires of that size from their inventory, trying to find 4 that were acceptable, had more sent in from other stores, and finally put a set together that they thought should work. Sorry, no go! Maybe the AT2's are better.

They exchanged them for my current 35/12.50/18 MT's, no extra charge. It was really too bad, because I really did like certain aspects of the AT's, and they looked cool, I thought.

 

[Bug Out]

Back in the day, late 70's when I busted tires for a living, we had "tire truing" machines that would round out the tire to your rim. Most tires were not perfectly round. I dont think they are around anymore.

 

[Cummins12V98]

IMHO stay away from Les Schwab

 

[Gonzo 1066]

My first set of TOYOS were my LAST set of TOYOS!!!!! They wore out well under 40,000 miles of towing,and the truck handled poorly, lots of squirm under heavy load. Les Schwab would do nothing to help on tread warranty. VE#RY UNHAPPY with them.. I am ONLY Michelin tires now.

 

[Regcabguy]

We'll be lucky to get 40K out of our Michelin's on my wife's Pilot.
I think I'll go with a Toyo street tire next time for the Pilot.
We paid good bucks for these and it'll be our last set.
36K out of the last Toyo AT's.
Hopefully,more out of the AT2's.

 

[JSoloman]

I haven't been able to ever see 40K out of a set of tires. I've run MT's; both BFG and Toyo's. I made the mistake and switched to BFG AT's one time, simply because they were suppose to guaranty them for 50K. Big joke. I got 34K out of them. We are talking E rated too. I know this is an old topic, but really, tell me is there a tire out there that you can get 40K+ out of, without running them slick. Maybe I'm asking too much out of a MT.

 

[seafish]

My sets of Toyo AT Open Countrys both wore out at around 30k with regular rotations, but I STILL considered them an excellent tire. They handled all road condtions extreemly well and I have NEVER gotten more then 30k from a set of tires on my truck...While tire design and tread compound certainly influenmce overall tire mileage, I believe that driving styles, road conditions, road types, and truck weight, have MUCH more to do with the overall treadwear that any specific driver gets from any specific set of tires. While I have NOT tried tha AT2, everything I have read is that they are an improvement on the AT in terms of treadwear.

 

[lawdog1]

Thank you for your input. I am going to go with the Toyo's. No tire is going to be perfect and the Toyo seems to the best of the AT world of tires at the 285 to 315 size range from what I can tell. ...most AT tires are not E rated in the size I want, and the alternatives, BFG, Goodyear Duratrac, Bridgestone, Firestone, do not seem any better (worse actually.) We all give up something to get something, but this tire seems to be pretty good at most things and not real bad at anything.

 

[LFarmer]

This is my third dodge with a cummins and I have never seen anywhere close to 40K out of a set of tires. My last set was Toyo AT 285-75-17. All four were down to the wear bars with even wear at just over 15k. They performed well and were stable with heavy loads. I now have the Nitto AT in the same size.

 

[JJPage]

Back in the day, late 70's when I busted tires for a living, we had "tire truing" machines that would round out the tire to your rim. Most tires were not perfectly round. I dont think they are around anymore.

Oh yeah, still around, now they are referred to as a 20# boosted launch...:-laf:-laf:-laf

 

[cerberusiam]

Oh yeah, still around, now they are referred to as a 20# boosted launch...:-laf:-laf:-laf

That is commonly referred to as "truing up the tire". Frequently done after rotations.


:-laf