2wd Leveling kit... are they joking?

[GWBourne]

ok folks... .

here is what i am talking about.....

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/cgi-bin/suscon/KC09103-D2L.html



am i missing something? URETHANE?!?!?! WTF?!?! that is asking someone to wreck... . load the truck down a few times on a few hot days and a year or so later you could kill someone... .



BUT here is what i am thinking... Buy them. . test fit them and run them foe a couple days... IF i like the way the truck handles and the suspension sits along with steers... blah blah blah. . all that make sure geometry is still good crap... then i remove them... and take them to a machine shop and have some billet T-6 A;uminum or some mild/hardened steel... .



k, what ya think?

Grant

 

[p-Bar]

Here are the ones I used. Top of page middle row





http://www.truckn-store.com/product_list.asp?id=2171

 

[XJSuperman]

Lifts like this have been made from urethane for many years now. Big trucks, small trucks (jeeps) etc. They also make just about any bushing you can imagine for trucks/cars out of urethane. Not really a new concept.

 

[GWBourne]

Lifts like this have been made from urethane for many years now. Big trucks, small trucks (jeeps) etc. They also make just about any bushing you can imagine for trucks/cars out of urethane. Not really a new concept.

Yes, Urethane is not a new concept. the suspension bushing and body bushing on myh BLAZER are ALL urethane. BUT it is not meant to tow 18+ thousand lbs. urethane as a primary weight holding item is NOT a good idea.

Grant

 

[XJSuperman]

Uh-huh... sure. Which is why spring bushings and such are made from rubber... which is usually not as strong as urethane. Rubber also does not stand up to wear and tear as much as urethane. But I don't see you worrying about the busings in your leaf spring or control arm bushings.



As for towing 18,000 lbs... since when do the front coil springs have to handle 18,000 lbs? I doubt VERY seriously you will EVER have that much weight over the front axle.



Not to mention the companies who make 4 link setups for these trucks (kelderman etc) and those link arms have rubber or urethane busihings in them... and they do not take away from the towing capacity of the truck.



I see no reason why urethane would not hold up just fine.

 

[GWBourne]

its not that i dont think urethane can not handle the task. you are right, urethane and rubber are all over in suspension, and you are right, the frotn of the truck WILL NEVER see 18k + BUT what i am saying is urethane does break down over time. it does nto do well under heavy loads and high heat.



by using this kit you are placing a 2 inch block above a spring. this two inch block has a shelf life. when it goes out, however long down the road, it will throw a spring or jamb it into an odd possition possibly causing a small, or large wreck. YES IM PARANOID in some aspects and without care in others. . im odd like that.



the reason i say its fine in suspension links and leaf springs is the fact that you can tell when they are wearing, and they have metal in full circle to hold if the bushing fails.



grant

 

[JSellers]

Grant,



Did you know there's already a rubber spacer above your coil springs? Came that way from Dodge, they all have them. And like Superman already told you, the urethane pieces are much stronger than rubber.



I don't see a problem,

John

 

[GWBourne]

i didnt know that, but as i am having a rattle and a LOUD horrible screatch/squeel/grind in a turning bump i will be crawling under the truck and check it out. maybe i will try them out, like i said, it just doesnt seem safe to me and i dont like the idea. is it safe? i would have to say yes as i know Daystar makes a great product, BUT i still dont THINK it is safe. i guess it all comes down to personal opinion... .

Grant

 

[Tim]

I don't like spring spacers at all personally, but polyurathane doesn't really break down in any reasonable amount of time, either.

 

[CrashCade]

There is a company making them out of steel 2. 5" or 3". The problem is the track bar and link bars will have to be changed to keep geometry in shape. I have been running the daystars 2" for over 2 years now on various Dodge applications.

 

[GWBourne]

yeah, im thinking about the 1. 5 to 3 adjustable setup on 1. 5 inch. its steel and i wont have to many geometry problems. i can make the end links for the sway bar, thats not a big deal.

i just dont agree with poly for this application. personal opinion.

Grant

 

[Agandy]

What did you have to buy for front end lift?

Just coils, or did you have to get the adjuster and upper control arms, too?

Did you install or have it done?

 

[JRG]

or try: http://revtekindustries.com/product_sel.asp?makeid=3&modelid=6



http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/subpages/revtek_suspension_lift_kits.htm



JRG

 

[p-Bar]

or try: http://revtekindustries.com/product_sel.asp?makeid=3&modelid=6



http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/subpages/revtek_suspension_lift_kits.htm



JRG

These are for 4wd applications,I think wev'e been talking 2wd

 

[JRG]

Sorry.



JRG

 

[ohnoitsyu]

Grant,

I noticed in your sig that you're using the 315 BFGs. You know those are only D-rated, right? Dodge recommends and equips these trucks with E-rated tires. Sure D tires are fine for a lightweight half ton, they have no business on our trucks. If you're concerned with safety, you should look at your tires.



Oh, and if you did load your truck with 18K# the tongue weight would load the rear of the truck behind your axle, actually reducing your weight up front.



Wait a minute. You have a 2500, right? What is your GCWR and max tow rating??? I think if you're towing 18k#, as you claim, you're grossly overloaded and very dangerous to all on the road. And you're doing this with inferior D-rated tires?

 

[MCummings]

Grant,



Open Mouth, Insert Foot.







Been there, done that.





Merrick