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that's my rig bro i sent u a link to the latest video last saturday at redline dyno day i'm presently trying to get footage made from today where i was in greeley testing those twins but we couldn't crack it just yet still gotta work out some things
 
with a single i stacked the ppe with the six gun and speedloader and it added 170 just gotta try different approaches. Everyone with a 3rd gen runs tst and edge i had to do something different and it's paid off so far.
 
2-3 mpg increase? Is that actual, or is that according to the "fooled" overhead? I'd pay $900 for something that increased my mileage by that much even if it didn't add any power. I find it a little hard to believe.
 
i swear to god it actually did increase it about 2 mpg. I was shocked that the product actually added power and increased mpg. Joe is a good guy there and he's always done me right. HOwever the power increase isn't what is stated they dyno'd a truck with the xcellerator on a truck with twins so they got like 190 or something at the wheels i guess. when i ran it solo it added 80 hp no lie that was it but it smoked a ton. I ran it stacked with a six gun and it was like 170 over the prior six gun reading and last week i added the twins and i dyno'd my rig with xcellerator only and it added like 180 without the six gun. ats carries it now so i bet everyone who said i was lying 3 months ago will now bow down and eat purple rectum since now ats has it available because they are a big business however when i posted these results months ago everyone thought i was lying or making it up so now ats has it and they can go ask them lol.
 
Coolslice said:
2-3 mpg increase? Is that actual, or is that according to the "fooled" overhead? I'd pay $900 for something that increased my mileage by that much even if it didn't add any power. I find it a little hard to believe.



Most boxes will increase mileage to some extent but only if we have some self control and keep our foot out of the go pedel, oh and drive civilized :-laf
 
Mileage increases usually come from timing adjustments. Just put the TST PMCR on my truck will be leaving within the hour and will put 2300 miles on my rig in the next 48 hours. So I will see what the TST does for mileage empty and loaded down compared to just the EZ I used to run.
 
i'm not sure about the 3700 i've fueled to 4000 before though and when i spoke to joe he said that's what it was well right around there anyway. I can get to 3700 for sure all day long no problem in that video that's what he got it to on the dynojet. What's good about it is that it doesn't alter any rail pressure at all it doesn't touch it . So when combined with a pressure box it seems to rock. Everyone is always like tst and edge( no offense there mike) however if i was to go out and get tst and edge and a killer b and a transmission i would have a setup that's pretty common and basically i'll never beat those people that have it. I tried to take a different approach against what everyone advised me on and i made the choice on my own after talking to the guys and reading a lot of information, i thought it would work just perfect with the six gun. Now people are starting to watch and actually listen to results. I mean ats has it now anyway so i bet i'll see 20 of them in the next year where now i was the first to get it here and he keeps my video on his page for a thanks i guess. I told him i'd post the results and some others would probably get it but too many people said it wasn't true or it's a lie. I had some bad dyno luck the one at redline broke, and then the pfi one broke not once but we waited to get it fixed and it did it again and we got really crappy numbers too. I however knew there was more power there for sure, and now people are shocked. They laugh when i tell them i have banks stuff and ppe and that's fine they can laugh all they want. They don't think it's funny though after they get a taste of it. It's gonna get better too, joe said to me that they were working on a twins type program after i had mentioned the tst twins deal to him. He said they had one coming but he told me he dyno'd it on a truck with twins already so i'm not sure what he's got. The guy really went out of his way for me when i had the truck reflashed i was to program it first then run the six gun before i had it the other way. However they didn't reflash the same program they updated it and it wouldn't program anymore. Major drag. I sent it out he overnighted it back after he had it and it wasn't fixed it was still the same old message. I told him i'd pay him to overnight it next day air fed ex. Well when it didn't work i spoke to him and sent it back again he told me he was gonna go around the new update and put my old stock program back on and then i could program. Well he did just that and without saying **** he overnited it again to me and i did send the cash for one of the 2 overnight trips. He overnighted it to me when i bought it and he even had a prototype box with the case unfinished and he gave it to me for 200 bucks less but i told him i'd be able to bring some business but i was unable to change the minds of stubborn folks. People have their mind already made up they want this or that and nothing is as good. I was looking at the crazy larry but the ppe is totally a pulse width and duratioin box which adds 0 pressure and the six gun adds mostly pressure with a tad bit of timing and so it seems to be a good fit and to be honest i've done just fine at holding my own against tst and edge or either or by itself or bully dog or whatever that's a good combo hands down to run on a 3rd gen. It's right in the same ball park as the tst and edge. What's funny is that when someone i know dyno'd with tst and edge they actually lost power as opposed to just the tst box. When u run ppe on extreme and six gun you lose power on any level over 3 so that'll save u some time finding the max setting if you go that route. I wish i knew someone with a van akan or whatever it is pressure box i'd try that and see what it did. Not sure which other boxes have good gains by mostly adding pressure.
 
I just recived my programer and I only paid $800. 00 with shipping for it. I have allready installed the juice and attitude and from what I have been told you can stack the juice on top of the 200 horse power program from the box. I don't know if this will give me 300 horses on top of stock and it may ruin a auto transmission or engine I just don't know yet, I'm a little aprehensive about trying it.
 
Moolie,

Everytime I have dynoed with the TST stacked with the Edge or TS box the results were more horsepower.

Both Mustang and Dynojets usually showed a gain of about 20-30hp.
 
Are you sure that the PPE box raises the RPM? I call about a month ago and they said it removed the speed limiter but not the RPM. Moolie is your truck a stick or auto?
 
it's an auto and yeah i'm sure it raises it i can fuel to like 4000 and i have some dyno sheets where it has recorded me fueling up to 3500 at the time because we weren't sure how high it would fuel at first. It doesn't matter because u start to lose power anyhow
 
don't know if it'll work like that with the 300 hp but i wouldn't expect it to. Up to a point they work together i'm sure but in my case the six gun was 126 which it isn't i'm sure, but the xcell was whatever they claim i told him i wanted to see 190 at the wheels. It wasn't but 80 at the wheels but like i said when i stack the 2 together it was on level 3 and it recorded 170 hp more then my previous dyno runs with the six gun on level 3. So at this stage in the game even though it was less then expected i decided 170 was still a nice increase so go ahead and leave it on there. it's worked well for me though and like i said it added 180 by itself after the twins were put on. but the box just dumped fuel for days i have black clouds just pouring out so i'm interested to hear how your vehicle responds to the attitude in addittion to the ppe program
 
jwilliams3 said:
Moolie,

Everytime I have dynoed with the TST stacked with the Edge or TS box the results were more horsepower.

Both Mustang and Dynojets usually showed a gain of about 20-30hp.





well he's right here so he'll tell u himself. Mike what happened when u ran the tst twins program after the install of the new flux injectors as opposed to the tst twins program stacked with the edge. Now i'm not sure if it's because of the twins package or what if we are comparing apples and oranges or if that's what u also have but i know that this particular time it dropped and i haven't heard or seen of any other dyno data after that so i don't know for sure it might just be on his truck.
 
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