3500 /2500 Srw

[kernen]

I am sure this has been discussed many times before, but I will ask anyways. Other than helper springs on rear leaf what is difference in 2500 vs. 3500SRW.



Couldn't I just put some Firestone airbags on the rear and accomplish the same thing. I already have the 2500 SRW, so I am stuck for awhile if you know what I mean.



Any input is appreciated, thanks.

 

[EricBu12]

I have the SRW 2500 as well. I took the overloads off (2nd gen model) and put on the Roadmaster Coil spring on top. you can't take off the overload tabs on the 3500 of the 3rd gen but for yours, this will work..... This is strong enough for my heavy 5th wheel.



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[Bob V]

I put the Ride Rites on mine. they make a no drill kit for the 2nd and 3rd gen trucks that are ez to install (3rd gen part #2299). I did a lot of resurch and the ony difference between the SRW3500 and the 2500 is the over load springs and the cab lights. The DRW 3500 do seem to have different front brakes. Now this will NOT change you max GVW or GCVWR. Some will tell you you will be sued for overloading you truk if you are in an accident, but I dont see that happening unless you go WAY over.

 

[JThiessen]

Larger brakes, larger diff's, heavier guage frame,

 

[NavyDood]

The frames are identical on the 2500 and 3500 4x2's. The same goes for the 4x4's. They are not interchangeable from 4x2 to 4x4 though.



2500 and 3500 SRW CTD's use the same 11. 5" AAM rear axle and the 9. 25" front if 4x4. 3500 Dually is the same 11. 5" AAM just a tad wider. 03 there was a different axle offered. It was the AAM 10. 5" and only available in the 2500 SO Cummins. The Hemi 2500 has the 10. 5" AAM.



Brakes are the same on the 2500 and 3500 SRW CTD's. Hydro boost only on the 2500 CTD's. Vaccuum boost for the Hemi 2500. 3500 gets the hydroboost no matter what engine. The front brakes on a dually are designed just a tad different to accomodate the different style rim.

 

[Bob V]

Larger brakes, larger diff's, heavier guage frame,

Where did you get your info? I think you need to do a little more reserch.

 

[JThiessen]

www.4adodge.com

2500 has 10. 5 axle, 3500 gets 11. 5 for both DRW and SRW. Try it Bob.

I was told by dealer that the 1 ton had larger brakes, so that may be suspect.

Frame guage - I measured the guage between my truck and a friends one ton. Also subject to powder coat build up/dirt.

 

[NavyDood]

All CTD trucks get the 11. 5" rear axle.



Here is more info for other comparisons. http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/2005sbbgl/docs/dr/ts.pdf

 

[100 Proof]

I thought the only 2500 with the 11. 5" was the H/O with the 6 speed. At least that was the case in model year '03. Other than that, the differences were cab lights, rear spring packs, and weight ratings.



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[NavyDood]

03 HO and all 04 and up CTD's get the 11. 5" AAM. The 03 SO got the 10. 5" AAM.

 

[crobertson1]

The frames are identical on the 2500 and 3500 4x2's. The same goes for the 4x4's. They are not interchangeable from 4x2 to 4x4 though.

Just a technicality, but 3500s have bump stops on the frames for the overloads.

 

[JThiessen]

Navydood: Where did you find that chart? Interesting info... but I noticed some discrepancies:

The 4x4 3500 gets a thicker front brake, but same dia.

The frame section modulus (stiffness or resistance to bending) on the 4x4's is the same, but on the 4x2's it lists the 4x4 as having this incredibly stiff frame (16. 5 vs 9. 8) yet its dimensionally the same... just an oddity.

 

[Bob V]

Navydood: Where did you find that chart? Interesting info... but I noticed some discrepancies:

The 4x4 3500 gets a thicker front brake, but same dia.

The frame section modulus (stiffness or resistance to bending) on the 4x4's is the same, but on the 4x2's it lists the 4x4 as having this incredibly stiff frame (16. 5 vs 9. 8) yet its dimensionally the same... just an oddity.

It seems that the thicker rotor is on the 3500 DRW trucks. I have tried hard to find the difference between the 3500 SRW and the 2500. The think that I find most odd is the 3500 SRW has a lower curb weight than the 2500. I don't see how that can be. One other thing, the 3500 SRW manual W/ 373 gears had a lower GCVWR than the 410 geared trucks in 2005, when the G56 came out, you couldn't get the 410 gears with it, so all you had was the lower GCVWR with the manual trans. For 2006 the G56/373 geared truck was rated at the higher GCVW, but no mechanical difference between the years. Does that mean that a 2005 truck with a G56 has the same GCVW as the 2006 trucks with the manual?

I'll go with what I first heard when the 3rd gens first came out, you can no longer get the "camper pkg" (overload spings) in the 2500, The "camper pkg" is now a 3500 SRW.

 

[Dieselnerd]

As far as I can see there are three differences:

1. Overload springs

2. 3500 nameplate

3. 9900# weight sticker on the door

 

[klenger]

As far as I can see there are three differences:

1. Overload springs

2. 3500 nameplate

3. 9900# weight sticker on the door

4. ... and $300

 

[trucknut]

3500 vs 2500 weight difference

If I remember right: The 2003 3500 ctd is 72lbs heavier than a 2500 ctd (same options).

 

[JThiessen]

Well, this may change my mind on trading in my 2500. Dang, more ammo AGAINST it... ... I love new trucks!!

 

[REndres]

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It seems that the thicker rotor is on the 3500 DRW trucks. I have tried hard to find the difference between the 3500 SRW and the 2500. The think that I find most odd is the 3500 SRW has a lower curb weight than the 2500. I don't see how that can be. One other thing, the 3500 SRW manual W/ 373 gears had a lower GCVWR than the 410 geared trucks in 2005, when the G56 came out, you couldn't get the 410 gears with it, so all you had was the lower GCVWR with the manual trans. For 2006 the G56/373 geared truck was rated at the higher GCVW, but no mechanical difference between the years. Does that mean that a 2005 truck with a G56 has the same GCVW as the 2006 trucks with the manual?

I'll go with what I first heard when the 3rd gens first came out, you can no longer get the "camper pkg" (overload spings) in the 2500, The "camper pkg" is now a 3500 SRW

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I have noticed the same thing on the tow ratings. When they went to the G56 mid '05 the final ratio with the 3. 73 was nearly the same as previous 6 speed with 4. 10 gears. This would explain why '06 6 speed 3. 73 rear end would have the higher tow rating. I believe the mid year '05 6 speed tow rating publications were never revised.

One other note,I think the aluminum case G56 is almost 100lbs lighter than the steel NV5600,(lighter curb wt).

 

[Gifford]

The dodge build site STILL says that the 3500 has a 11. 5 rear end and the 2500 has the 10. 5



www.dodge.com

 

[Bob V]

The dodge build site STILL says that the 3500 has a 11. 5 rear end and the 2500 has the 10. 5



www.dodge.com

The 2500 gassers still get the 10. 5, 11. 5 for the Diesels.