3500 frame problem???

[LFalconer]

Aseigworth, Call Shade Equipment in Winchester VA, speak with Kelly there. They are an authorized upfitter for Dodge. As I posted earlier, DC is not authorizing box off applications on 03-05 Dodges. Until the new frame is released mid 05, and the 06 chassis cab is out - that is the word from them.



I'm sure there are some other opinions, but I did verify with Shade equipment, and my dealer -that there have been some bed off Cracked Frames.



Believe it or not - just the facts.



Luke

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

I found the frame cracks.

https://www.turbodieselregistry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127567















































oh,... . that's a 2G

 

[JHardwick]

https://www.turbodieselregistry.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127567

oh,... . that's a 2G

:-laf :-laf

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

A person just has to make up their own mind

Amen. Nice looking work truck aseigworth

 

[LFalconer]

Gents, Check out the post on Box Off XBC order option available April 15th, with modified frame.



I rest my case. Believe what you like. But their are issues, and DC is releasing a modified frame. Just the facts...



L

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

It is my understanding that previous Cab and Chassis models had differences in both frame members and rear axle configuration. Therefore this is not unique to G3. If I'm not mistaken the frames on C&Cs are rise sooner behind the cab and are straighter to accomodate aftermarket beds.



This would work fine for aftermarket beds but one would have a hard time putting a slide-in camper in a C&C as a number of posters have indicated they would like to do. I still have not seen evidence of failures or prohibitions.



This is not to say that a C&C would not be the best setup for an aftermarket utility bed being designed with that specifically in mind. And if theat was the primary purpose, by all means go with a C&C now that they are available. However, I still have not seen the evidence justifying foregoing installing a flatbed or hauling a camper on a non-C&C truck, only a "not recommended" for the camper. Drive on.

 

[DPhillips]

Here is one with a box on it

Saw this driving on I-35 the other day and I have seen a few others around town with similar set ups, I am not able to stop and talk with the drivers. Hope this helps.

P. S. the truck is a quad cab dually in case you cant tell in the photo.

 

[KDoerr]

the frame rail pics you see are from a 94-02 not the 3g frame. There is no frame cracks on the 2g or the 3g trucks. the 2g had a problem with the 2500 on the frame cracking only because people would load them to what a one ton cab and chass. So you all can stop to worry. :{

 

[JHardwick]

this reminds me of the "can't drill" "can't weld" debacle

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

#ad




How come by the time I get my pictures crop and degraded enought to meet the 12K limit they look like... well... not very good?



Any hints, besides lowering the image quality on the camera? I cant' take this photo again until next summer.

 

[geusterman]

Nice shot OTD! Building the sideboards to my flatbed now... the will hinge down! Y'all... I have an aluminum flatbed. . rebolted to the 6 bolt holes in frame and much stiffer that standard pop can we call a bed. I load 4K of camper and lots of ammo and cruise the gopher infested alfalfa fields of MT on killing sprees. KORE shocks help a lot and I bet I will NEVER have a frame issue on a frame 4X stiffer than my 02. Now... my 02 was a camper special 2500 SRW 4x4 which means it came with overloads and sway bar. It needed the overloads for the camper and the sway bar because the frame rails were closer together than the G3's. So... my guess is DC wants overloads on camper rigs (my rig ok for camper 2004. 5). No sway necessary with wider frame rails. I have a B/W hitch that we had to make a bolt-on frame mount because the flatbed is about 2" higher than the popcan bed (I rolled a tire into my popcan bed back when it was on the frame and when the tire fell over (Rickson/Michelin) it caved in the fender). Sheeeesss. George

 

[jmtandem]

camper carrying issue 3500 dually

Not to belabor this issue but the slide in camper piece of paper in the glove box describes how to determine center of camper gravity on the front side (with drawings) and how to weigh the axles and camper on the truck on the rear. In the middle of this is a statement not recommeding the truck for carrying a slide in camper. What a message this sends to the user, how to weigh and calculate center of gravity of a camper for the truck and that the truck is not recommended for carrying campers. What a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo gobbliegoop.



Virtually all camper manufacturers are emphatic that duallys are better cabover camper haulers for medium to heavy campers. As long as the weight is within GVWR and axle allowable loading, the truck should be able to handle the weight.

 

[JHardwick]

What a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo gobbliegoop.

It's actually ... ...





Main Entry: gob·ble·dy·gook

Variant(s): also gob. ble. de. gook /'gä-b&l-dE-"guk, -"gük/

Function: noun

Etymology: irregular from gobble, n.

Date: 1944

: wordy and generally unintelligible jargon



A whole bunch of legal nothing!!

 

[jmtandem]

jhardwick,



thank you, I stand corrected.

 

[JHardwick]

jhardwick,



thank you, I stand corrected.

I wasn't correcting, just letting everbody know that it was actually a word

 

[jmtandem]

thanks, then I guess I stand affirmed, with some bad spelling.

 

[Subby]

Let us all vow never to use words like "gobbledygoop/k" on this website again. Amen.

 

[jimnance]

Fatigue could be a factor, but I would think it would require a number of miles or very severe service before this becomes an issue.



Twin Cessna's are losing wings at aproximately 20,000 hours. Most were in hard service, Grand Canyon flights, etc. . If I recall correctly aluminum fatigues more readily than steel.



If, indeed there is a problem with the 3rd gen trucks then it seems to me to be an engineering issue.

 

[Jeremiah]

Not recommended v. don't do it

My 2005 DRW 3500 came with a form about how to set up your camper, however it also has printed in the middle of the form "This vehicle is not recommended for use with a slide-in camper"



It does not say any where on the form that you can't put one on and in fact shows you how to set up the center of garvity for it.



I would suspect that Dodge just recommends that it is not designed to carry a slide-in camper as there is not much of a market for it vs trailers.



Saying not recommended and don't do it are two different things.

I disagree. I think "not recommended" is a nice way of saying "don't do this," hoping that softer language won't depress sales much. I have an idea the factory warranty will be out the window like a bird if a camper is installed and problems can be attributed to it.

 

[Yo Hoot]

Not to belabor this issue but the slide in camper piece of paper in the glove box describes how to determine center of camper gravity on the front side (with drawings) and how to weigh the axles and camper on the truck on the rear. In the middle of this is a statement not recommeding the truck for carrying a slide in camper. What a message this sends to the user, how to weigh and calculate center of gravity of a camper for the truck and that the truck is not recommended for carrying campers. What a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo gobbliegoop.



Virtually all camper manufacturers are emphatic that duallys are better cabover camper haulers for medium to heavy campers. As long as the weight is within GVWR and axle allowable loading, the truck should be able to handle the weight.

Maybe the label instructions aren't recommended for a slide in camper?