35's stock suspension

[JTMATTEL05]

I like miser up but i really want the fender flares.

 

[JTMATTEL05]

Here is something else I noticed when you go to aftermarket rims.

Theres those little copper clips that hold on the rotor. make sure you remove those. When you tow a heavy load with the after market rims they mount flush up against the rotor and that tiny little bit of clearance between the studs that have the copper clip and the ones that don't bring the possibility of breaking studs. (at least that's my assumption) When I came home this summer and rotated tires I went to remove my rear lugs and multiple ones I went to remove sheared right off. Further research I noticed that these lugs have been broke for some time (the last time I drove my truck was May 2017 due to me being stationed overseas.). I replaced all 16 rear lugs and removed those clips so my wheel sits flush against the rotor all the way around.

I hope this makes sense.

 

[AEdelheit]

Here is something else I noticed when you go to aftermarket rims.

Theres those little copper clips that hold on the rotor. make sure you remove those. When you tow a heavy load with the after market rims they mount flush up against the rotor and that tiny little bit of clearance between the studs that have the copper clip and the ones that don't bring the possibility of breaking studs. (at least that's my assumption) When I came home this summer and rotated tires I went to remove my rear lugs and multiple ones I went to remove sheared right off. Further research I noticed that these lugs have been broke for some time (the last time I drove my truck was May 2017 due to me being stationed overseas.). I replaced all 16 rear lugs and removed those clips so my wheel sits flush against the rotor all the way around.

I hope this makes sense.

Oh those little clips will cause studs to break , I have seen it many times!

With a +18mm wheel you can run 35s on stock suspension, here is a good write up on it https://www.thurenfabrication.com/tech/tire-and-wheel-fitment.html

 

[JTMATTEL05]

Thats interesting that you say they'd fit on stock suspension. I wouldn't know because when I swapped my wheels I also installed the OEM leveling kit. The only place i rub is on the outer rear of the inner fender well. I never had a problem with the control arms. OP i hope you found this discussion has answered all your questions. I am looking forward to see what you choose to install!

 

[AEdelheit]

Thats interesting that you say they'd fit on stock suspension. I wouldn't know because when I swapped my wheels I also installed the OEM leveling kit. The only place i rub is on the outer rear of the inner fender well. I never had a problem with the control arms. OP i hope you found this discussion has answered all your questions. I am looking forward to see what you choose to install!

A leveling kit does not really add any tire clearance as when the suspension compresses the tire is still in the same spot so you might not rub at ride height but its not a true gain in tire clearance. Wheel offset is really what determines tire fitment.

 

[JTMATTEL05]

Wouldn’t it give me 2” in the front with it being a 2” leveling kit?..

 

[AEdelheit]

Wouldn’t it give me 2” in the front with it being a 2” leveling kit?..

Unless you only have 2" of up travel the suspension is still compressing when you hit a bump. If you just do a coil spacer then the bump stops should be dropped down as well so the coil is not over compressed but no one does that, with a replacement coil most are designed around factory bump stop travel.

Also depends where the rub is, on stock wheel where the tire would rub the control or radius arm you could do a 6" lift and the rub would be the same, wheels with less off set might gain a little bit of clearance from the fender with a leveling kit but only at ride height not when the suspension compresses.

 

[Moon22]

A leveling kit does give you more clearance from the top of the wheel-well to tire, but without the proper offset of the wheel you will be rubbing something like the control arms.

 

[JTMATTEL05]

The oem kit has replacement bump stops and the spring spacer.

Unless you only have 2" of up travel the suspension is still compressing when you hit a bump. If you just do a coil spacer then the bump stops should be dropped down as well so the coil is not over compressed but no one does that, with a replacement coil most are designed around factory bump stop travel.

Also depends where the rub is, on stock wheel where the tire would rub the control or radius arm you could do a 6" lift and the rub would be the same, wheels with less off set might gain a little bit of clearance from the fender with a leveling kit but only at ride height not when the suspension compresses.

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[AEdelheit]

The oem kit has replacement bump stops and the spring spacer.

Ah good, most do not. So you would gain whatever tire clearance was an issue in the last 2" of up travel, so really no gain in usable tire clearance.

A leveling kit does give you more clearance from the top of the wheel-well to tire, but without the proper offset of the wheel you will be rubbing something like the control arms.

And when have you seen a tire hit the top of the wheel well?? Even 37s with stock bump stop travel dont hit there. The rear of the front fender or the control / radius arm is where the issues are. The sway bar on 13+ Radius arm trucks can also be a rub spot.