3rd Gen aftermarket injectors

[SRadke]

But surely there is a way to test the nozzles and spray patterns to make a match set as well as I know it is possible to detect whether or not a solenoid valve is or has been leaking and address the problem. I don't know the specifics, I left it to Don



-Scott

 

[MichaelWright]

I have the Janetty (sp) Racing 80hp injectors. They mad a VERY noticable difference in performance. I paid $700 + $700 corp deposit, which was refunded. The install was not that hard, but if you have an extra $300 laying around, pay a mechanic to do it. I was down to under 20 minutes to swap an injector out after the initial tear down, which I got down to about 20 minutes also. Been there, done that. You will need a few specialty tools if you do the swap yourself. Janetty's instructions were very good and easy to follow. But they mention nothing of the tools required to do the install. Some shorty/stubby wrenchces, torque wrenches (mentioned) and crow foot wrenches. Very tight fit towards the cab side of the motor, a real pain in the knees and lower back. If your not built like a monkey, pay someone to do the swap.



Mike

 

[KLockliear]

But surely there is a way to test the nozzles and spray patterns to make a match set as well as I know it is possible to detect whether or not a solenoid valve is or has been leaking and address the problem. I don't know the specifics, I left it to Don



-Scott

What do you mean by match spray pattern? Spray angle is spray angle. If they have the correct spray pattern and atomize the fuel properly, they will work. There is no leaking with these injectors - they are open or closed electrically.

 

[DLeno]

we're talking hole geometries and angles I think?

 

[SRadke]

Would you not want the nozzle tested after it's made to be sure there isn't a burr, or machineing anomoly that could affect the spray pattern from the original design? How would the truck run if one of the injector holes were slightly off angle or worse yet plugged up with something? Like I said, I don't do this stuff, I leave it to the pros. Maybe there's no chance of something like that but to say "no chance" can really open yourself up for a surprise.



Yes I understand they are electronically fired. This means they are opened and closed electronically, indicating a valve. These "valves" could possibly begin to leak with time, abuse, etc. I'd like to know that isn't the case while I have 'em out, maybe that's just me.



-Scott

 

[KLockliear]

Scott - do you test your stock nozzles? We take a stock new nozzle and modify it as we always have - the same as what we would do to your nozzles... what's to test in the spray angle? Spray angle is a constant. Has to match the rest of the package.

 

[SRadke]

I don't do this stuff Kieth, I'll come right out and say that. Would I test a stock nozzle, no, I expect Bosch has plenty of testing and QC going on before these things leave their facility. Would I test it after I had tinkered with it, I would if I could. Not so much looking for spray angles as anomolies or errors I could have created in modifying it.



That's all I've got to say. I'm no expert on the subject and I'm hardly qualified to even discuss it so I'm just going to leave it here. I do appreciate your time in trying to help me understand.



-Scott

 

[Big_H316]

Keith at diesel dynamics, maybe you can give some insight here. After I start my truck and it's run for about 30 seconds or so it starts to white smoke. The longer it runs the worse the smoke gets... but ONLY at an idle will it smoke. This, to me, seems like a leaky injector. There is never a water or oil loss so I'm fine there. With 166,000 on the ticker I've become acustomed to it smoking, embarrassing as it is. Now, if the smoke were black I'd be okay with it because, well, thats what diesel engines do... at least they used to. It's not washing out a cylinder because the oil level is constant. Have you stumbled onto this problem yet. What's causing the clouds of white smoke?

 

[KLockliear]

Could be a seat problem for the pintle in the nozzle. Could be a solenoid that doesn't have the power to push the pintle all the way down. Could be a few things. I'd get it fixed ASAP though.

 

[Big_H316]

Keith, I was in your neighborhood Monday morning but didn't have the time or patience to fight the Sin City traffic to see if you could diagnose my problem. I would have loved to have seen your showroom or just to see if you could tell me a solution to my problems. Maybe nextime huh? I know we have 2 more loads going your way but my trip is done with. I delivered on N. Las Vegas Blvd. down by the airforce base on Monday at a place called The Hitchin Post. i had a 53' trailer behind me or I would have looked you up. I just didn't feel like fighting the traffic and the turns to try and make it to your place. Hopefully after I get back from Gulfport, Ms tomorrow I can go to a place that can really tell me whats going on.



Who knows... . maybe I'll be able to purchase some of those injector nozzles!!!