3rd Gen Lift Pump

[Adawg]

Not trying to high jack thread as the OP has made his mind up but what do you guys think of a mechanical fuel pump? If I had cash burning a hole in my pocket I was thinking of getting one then using my stock as a back up if I throw A belt or any unexpected issues come up.

 

[seafish]

GDP makes a REALLY nice mechanical FP kit for mounting on the 5.9 Cummins called the Fuel Boss, though it IS almost $600.

http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=07-001

 

[JR]

I don't know if I'm sold on the mechanical pumps. Seems to be a lot of mixed reviews on them. The only brushless pump I'm aware of is the Fuelab Velocity pumps. They seem like a solid design but for the price its disappointing they only offer a single w/s filter. The 3rd gen lift pumps seem to be about as reliable as anything the aftermarket has to offer and does so at a fraction of the price, if it were me I'd probably stick with OEM and buy a separate filter head for better filtration.

 

[User113]

Has anyone seen an example of the Aeromotive fuel system that they announced in 2013? The ONLY thing I can find on their website is this video clip. Another example of vaporware?

http://aeromotiveinc.com/sema-2013-new-diesel-pump/

BTW, a lot of those "brushless" pumps need AC to run, which just totally complicates thing.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I watched a video that told about the Fass pump it uses a brush motor, the video said they last longer and can take more heat than the brushless motor so that's why Fass has stayed with them.

Nate

 

[spin05]

if it were me id just do this and buy another one as soon as possible for a spare. http://www.genosgarage.com/REPLACEMENT-FUEL-TRANSFER-PUMP-03-045/productinfo/PUMP_FPD4089602/

 

[cerberusiam]

Looks like the Aeromotive neve rmade it to market. Fuelab has the same basic setup in different flows with a wet brushless motor. Spendy but might be worth the $$.

 

[BIGNASTY]

if it were me id just do this and buy another one as soon as possible for a spare. http://www.genosgarage.com/REPLACEMENT-FUEL-TRANSFER-PUMP-03-045/productinfo/PUMP_FPD4089602/

I don't think so, I got lots better use from mine than what my Dad got from his, but when they went out it was like somebody had turned off the key. I didn't like that feeling at all. Jason my Cousin had a older Dodge and its pump went out and it cost him a bunch of money to get it running again. My Father said you don't want to run those older trucks out of fuel FOR ANY REASON they will burn up the injection pump in a heart beat.

I'm going with the Fass system and try that for now!! anything can break but I know that the OEM pump on Dads didn't last long at all, something like 40k and it went although its not hard to replace the OEM pump its something that I would rather NOT do on the side of a road or a parking lot someplace. Things like that always happen at the most inopportune times.

Nate

 

[K5IP]

Nathan,
The Carter replacement from Genos is now a brushless design.
Easy to change, cheap(about $100) and now dependable.
use it and add your own filters. If worried, just keep your old lone in your bonnie box.
K5ip

 

[nadt770]

Airdog fuel supply line connection.

Does anyone know why AirDog recommends hooking the supply line directly to the CP3, bypassing the stock fuel filter? I'm guessing the stock filter is restrictive for trucks needing the extra fuel flow. In my case I'm using it for stock pump replacement and better filtration and higher fuel flow is not a factor to me.

For redundancy I am going to instal a locking switch in the cab to switch between the stock pump or the AirDog. Then I can just clip the appropriate fuel line to the quick connect fitting below the filter banjo fitting. Tadaa… fuel pump redundancy. So any reason I can't hook my AirDog to the filter rather than the CP3?

Thank's for any input.

John

 

[cerberusiam]

Because the plastic lid doesn't like over 30 psi of pressure. If you run it at 18-22 psi there should be no issue. If you upgrade the lines form the pump to the OE housing and then to the CP-3 you will have more than enough flow.

You should remove the in-tank pump and replace the canister or mod it with a larger pickup tube, same for the external mounted pump, so redundancy needs to be done outside the tank.

 

[User113]

Sorry, wrong thread. So, how does one actually delete a post?

 

[Pawpaw]

I've had an AirDog 100 on my truck since about 90,000 miles (I now have 280K+) and it's never given me a minute's trouble. In fact, it saved me from a situation that would have overwhelmed the factory filtration and cost me big time in repairs.

I got a bad load of diesel. That fuel was overloaded with water and trash and actually caused the truck to die at anything more than minimal throttle input. Instead of expen$ive repairs, I just had to drop the tank, clean it out, and change the AirDog's filter & water separator. Needless to say, I'm completely sold on the AirDog system.

 

[User113]

Looks like the Aeromotive neve rmade it to market. Fuelab has the same basic setup in different flows with a wet brushless motor. Spendy but might be worth the $$.

The Aeromotive pump has finally made its debut, and you thought the Fuelab unit was spendy?

Aeromotive Lift Pump

 

[cerberusiam]

The Aeromotive pump has finally made its debut, and you thought the Fuelab unit was spendy?

Aeromotive Lift Pump

LMAO!!!!! Wonder how many they will actually sell???

 

[jwduke]

LMAO!!!!! Wonder how many they will actually sell???

Ouch! That hurts!!

 

[S.Morris]

if it were me id just do this and buy another one as soon as possible for a spare. http://www.genosgarage.com/REPLACEMENT-FUEL-TRANSFER-PUMP-03-045/productinfo/PUMP_FPD4089602/

The original lift pump on my 04 , I changed at 270,000km just because and kept for a spare. The new Carter pump from Geno's was installed about 8yrs ago now but only 80,000km. It failed in Florida while on vacation(just backed in to a parking spot and was reaching for the key to shut off). I reinstalled the old pump and used it for return trip (1500miles). I ordered 2 new pumps from Geno's and will be replacing shortly. I like the option of being able to get rolling in an hour or so OR at very least having the part needed on hand so a roadside repair guy can showup and replace for a couple hrs labour, not a tow to a dealer with several days wait and a 1500.00 bill to do the intake retrofit. (These fail also ...)

 

[DavidMyers]

Wasn't sure of the best place to post this but my in tank setup is doing good so far 11 years. I am adding to more inline filters as noted.
Using 2 Fleetguard FF Heads #393061800 S and Donaldson551000 F/W and a Donaldson P551313 filter. Spec are great. Hoping to keep the fuel system going another 100,000 mi. I still use a Baldwin PF7977 in th stock canister.
2004 2500 2wd. NV5600 Love Shifting! 25v9,970miles @8102hrs. Going strong!
Banks HiRam and Intercooler, AFE air intake and filter.
Edge CTS2 - added pre egt, Lift pump press and NV5600 temp sensors, stock tires.

2004 2500 2wd. NV5600 Love Shifting! 25v9,970miles @8102hrs. Going strong!
Banks HiRam and Intercooler, AFE air intake and filter.
Edge CTS2 - added pre egt, Lift pump press and NV5600 temp sensors, stock tires.