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i love my 38 super and my 357 sig glock reminds me a good bit of it on bowling pins, i use to shoot with a guy that had a 9x25 and a couple things i remember besides loud!!! brass must be hideous to buy as it was the only gun he'd almost freak out when one got lost and the rounds were moving so fast it would usually leave the pins on the table with a little poof of splinters in the air behind it, not sure how fast they were going but i haven't had any of my experimental hot 125gr 357 mag or 115gr 38 super (that were so juicy a couple people through i was shooting a rifle from the concussion, they were still slightly under max load, no chronograph so i don't know how fast they were going) do the same thing
 
I don't know if it is the best and most durable, but my Springfield Armory 1911 has ben flawless so far and was reasonably priced also.

Will
 
i dont care for 1911's. like shooting them at the range and they can be a work of art if built right but i feel there are better options for carry.



I guess that's why all the SPECOPS and SWAT guys carry 'em, right. :D With the exception of a Glock 36 (that I sold and intend to get again) the ONLY type of . 45 ACP I've ever owned to date has been a 1911 variant. I currently own two, and they are both custom rigs. The latest is a Lew Bonitz 1* (One Asterisk, think about it :-laf ) rig with GI type sights and trigger. It was built on a new mfd Colt Series 70 that only cost about $800 new. The CZ-97 (. 45 version) is a freakishly large gun for a . 45 ACP, from what I've heard.



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Go with the taurus pt1911 it will only run you about $550 for blued $600 stainless. I let a friend that owned a Kimber custom shoot mine and he sold the Kimber the next day and bought the taurus and pocketed a bunch of money back since the Kimber was about 2 and a half times more. That tells you something when a $550 gun can group at 50 yds better than a gun that you would have to give a paycheck for.
 
I'm a fan of the M&P . 45. The 3 interchangeable palmswell grips of small, med, and large makes it more comfortable to shoot, and being more comfortable means you are more confident. And I believe it was 2007 gun of the year.
 
I have been an avid target shooter for over 50 years (I am 80) and recently purchased a Tarus Stainless Steel 1911 45 ACP. This is not to imply that I am an expert, I am still learning. For the price and all the features included this was a great buy. More bang for the buck (pun intended) As with most new firearms some disassembly and honing off the burs is a good idea if you have the knowledge. If not they eventually "wear in" When shooting an automatic for the first time put only two rounds in the clip and pull the slide putting a round in the chamber and fire. Then look to see if you have a round remaining. If not your firearm went full auto. A dangerous situation. From the recoil position the second round will be traveling at a steep upward angle and could leave the range and cause a disaster. It has happened causing death. Usually it is an improperly installed or adjusted sear spring that can be easily corrected by a Gunsmith or someone with sufficient knowledge. This is an age old common problem that most shooters know about. However I felt is was worth mentioning. There is no such thing as being too safe. If you wish further discussion e-mail me. -- email address removed --
 
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TBartlett Said:

I'm a fan of the M&P . 45. The 3 interchangeable palmswell grips of small, med, and large makes it more comfortable to shoot, and being more comfortable means you are more confident. And I believe it was 2007 gun of the year.



+ 1 for the M&P series Smiths. I am currently involved in the testing of the Smith and Wesson M&P series weapons in both 9mm and . 45. The 9mm went over 31,000 rounds before a part broke. The . 45 M&P was oiled once initially when new and we started off shooting dirty practice type ammo up to about 200 rounds at which time we experienced 3 malfunctions in a short period of time. Actually they were failure to go into battery malfunctions. We then switched to a Winchester Ranger SXT 230grn HP. To date we have fired a total of 5100 rounds through the same gun and it has not been cleaned or oiled since we started the test. The . 45 has fired roughly 4900 rounds of the Winchester SXT (basically dry) and we have only experienced 1 malfunction with this ammo. The Smith M&P . 45 seems to be holding up and is highly reliable with good ammo.
 
YOU SAID IT a gun is no better than the ammo. Malfunctioning problems have been cured by finding the right ammo. First the magazine spring should be replaced if old and the return spring that moves the slide forward can get weak and cause problems. those are the easiest and cheapest to replace and should be tried first. The 1911 Colt ACP is my favorite automatic and the S&W model 25 (45 cal. ) my favorite revolver. I shoot auto rim in the revolver so I don't have to mess with the 1/2 moon clips. It is not much trouble to switch over my reloading press to reload one or the other.
 
The best . 45 semi auto are the ones built by Phil Jenkins when he was at Kings Gun Works in Glendale, CA. The most durable is a toss up between a Glock and a GI 1911.
 
The best . 45 semi auto are the ones built by Phil Jenkins when he was at Kings Gun Works in Glendale, CA. The most durable is a toss up between a Glock and a GI 1911.



I'd say the first comment is subjective, but the latter, as subjective as it is (technically) I'd have to agree. How many times can you rebuild a 1911? The world may never know. :D
 
Billvo since you are going with a 10mil instead of a 45 and thinking of getting it in a Glock here's a thought.



Contact LoneWolf and see if they have a 40 barrel conversion and now you'll get to shoot less expensive and more available ammo.



I'm not one for spending money on a glock but a couple of things I did to mine. 1 change the sites. I like the Hienie sites but that's up to you. The second thing I'd do is change the trigger bar to a factory 3. 5 pound trigger bar. That will cost around 25 bucks I think.



Glocks come with two mags buy at least 3 more. They are cheap and are the heart of your firearm.



Get a good holster and some extra mags and shoot the wheels off of it.
 
Ruger make great revolvers but there pistols are not as reliable. You mine as well spend a little more money and get a Springfield or a Glock. They both have a bunch of good priced models of . 45 ACP pistols, they are not the best looking weapon but they go bang every time.
 
I bought a colt 45 gold cup national match in 1973. i have shot thousands of rounds through it and no problems. won a few matches. it will shoot a 2" group at 50 yards. Just not with me holding it. lol But never a malfuntion. i have ellison sights on my colts and bowmar on my S&W. sights to me are important but if it is for self defense they are not. find a wapon that fits your hand { frame/grips} that you are comfortable with. most good name brands guns today are good quality and function well. robert
 
Gold Cups are great if you can still find a series 70. I like my Sig Sauer they are built like the series 70 Colt. They even call them 1911. 1911's can be dependable if the magazine springs are replaced after they weaken. The slide return spring can get weak too. They are readily available on-line. Google will lead you to where to buy them. I like Wolf springs. An automatic that is not maintained can make you love a revolver. Feel free to e-mail me, I do a lot of target shooting and reloading. -- email address removed --
 
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i wasn't going to comment, but after that I have to. The most comfortable 45 I've shot was a Colt GC and the one I have now is a Sig. If I came across the Colt, I'd get it in a minute, otherwise I'm very happy with the Sig.
 
I see the GC at Gun Shows up over $1,000 used in excellent condition. To me a Sig is just as good if not better and they go for a lot less new. It is like vehicles what is good for one person is not for the other. I suppose that is why they make so many different shapes and sizes. I reload for the 45 ACP and for the 45 revolver that takes the 45 ACP. Only difference is I use Auto Rim for the revolver so I don't have to mess with the half moon clips. -- email address removed --
 
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LASD training dept liked the Smith and Wesson M&P's so much after testing them they paid for them out of pocket.



Says something about the gun to me Cops are cheap.
 
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