Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) 47RE Transmission problems

[Big_Daddy_T]

Just for the other side of the coin. I wanted higher pressures and lacked education on vb mods. I paid about $900 for a bd xstator w/shipping. And $250 for their vb. I was told by the installer that the vb had an $18 dollar transgo in it. so I paid $232 to have an $18 kit installed. After all was said and done. The transmission was in near perfect condition. No repairs needed. I paid $1800 in all for just a tc and vb installed. Add a 300 dollar rebuild kit and r&r an im in about $2600. Numbers for the not do it yourself type.



The 727 is a simple transmission to rebuild. These are still basically a 727 more or less. I was thinking about swapping in a 727 race flight with a dummy converter back when the tcs were having problems.



Ron got a little disgruntled towards a few of the transmission guys. He had a bad experience. I have one of those oversold xstators. Id like to upgrade but its not a priority to me. I had small problems with mine but its electrical not the hardware.

 

[LSMITH]

Big Daddy, you have an honest installer. He could have told you that all that crap needed to be replaced and charged you for it. You too could have been in the $4K transmission club.

 

[pwr2tow]

Originally posted by LSMITH

Ron, ALL of the soft parts in a transmission (clutches bands etc) cost less than $300. Yeah I wrote it right, and did not miss a zero. You CAN rebuild it top to bottom and front to back for less than $500 EASILY if no hard parts are damaged and have it back to AS NEW including fluid!!! Proturbo is right, add a grand for a good TC and you are off to the races.

There in lies the problem, $1,000. 00 for a good after market TC and $500. 00 for soft parts= $1,500. 00 and then there is that big if you state, If no hard parts are damaged. start adding things up and it sure looks like more than $1,300. 00, even more than $1,500. 00 acording to your figures. Thats the whole thing I have been trying to get across a simple rebuild maybe $1,300. 00 but if parts are fried in the transmission it's a whole different story. If I had 100K miles on the transmission and I was in there anyhow $50. 00 is pretty cheap insurance, very slim chance the new part is more defective than the one with 100K miles on it, besides I thought we were talking about a fried transmission not just upgradeing one that worked fine to begin with.



I agree that the super doper slick transmissions cost more than should be but with one of them your not getting just an OEM transmission. There usually is beefed up parts and things have been speced out for extra clutch packs and then the R&D that went into getting them to perform is worth more than a OEM transmission. Priced more than should be, yes, but you get alot more too and a reliable transmission that should last alot longer than a OEM one.



You guys are still missing the whole point, changeing a few parts (perfectly working trans) verses rebuilding a transmission (fried trans), and then adding in aftermarket parts and their prices and the dollar amount goes up pretty fast.



So this whole mess could have been avoided if some one would have stated in his original post that it could cost between $1,300. 00 and $2,300. 00 for a do-it-yourselfer it all depends on what needs to replaced in the transmission and if your going with OEM parts or aftermarket parts.



If my figures are still way off I appologise, maybe someone could list the price of all the parts that could be replaced on a fried transmission and I will make a formal appology.



Have a good day,

Ron







Big daddy t is right I was a little disgruntled at a few of the transmission guys and still am, but we'll save that debate for another thread. I would like to say that I have a transmission that works perfectly now and it will do it all with the TC locked and 100% if the power going to the ground. Just to clearifiy since one of the parts producers was named that all the modern day aftermarket TC's produced are within a few hundred dollars of each other.

 

[LSMITH]

Ron, I see your point. Can we agree to disagree on some points?



Very seldom are any of the hard parts damaged, and if they are they are very cheap too. BTW, your 99 has all of the extra clutchs that are advertised as upgrades by some vendors right from Dodge It already has all of the upgraded planetaries too About the only things it does not have box stock that are selling points for some vendors are stronger band struts and second gear apply lever You could add the billet parts too for upgrades if you want, that would add about $500-600, but I doubt you got them and I doubt you are loosing sleep over it.



I really don't think the super trannies are too much money, unless you can do it yourself. Those guys need to make a living too.

 

[pwr2tow]

LSMITH,

Sure we can, ever thing just has to be put in the right perspective.



Are you 100% sure about the clutch packs being the same? I do not remember the correct number of clutches in each pack and the extra amount added but I certainly could look it up. If what you are saying is true than just about every transmission seller advertisement I have seen could be in for some big time law suits. I think your mistaken about the numbers. 47RE less 48RE basically the same as an upgraded 47RE.



Ron

 

[pro99]

47RE

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No one said anything about a fried trans RON!! If you could dig your head out of your a?? Then you can see he was asking for a rebuild on a slipping in 3rd ok RON!! Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean other can’t. You can get a stock t/c for 500. 00 and it will work all day long. No one said anything about you have to use the best parts for a good rebuild RON!! Just because you got that link bd power trans does not mean you can go around telling people how much it will cost. Your just another joker that got it in the a?? Now Open your eyes and shut your mouth for once because you have no idea what it takes to do this job. When you start building them then you can have some input till then stay on the porch RON!! :--) :--)

 

[Chipstien]

WOW, this is a "slightly" heated conversation. Go get 'em guys.

 

[pwr2tow]

dud turbo,

It's people like you that can not spell or use good grammar in their sentences that don't understand.



Go back and read the posts from the beginning, there was more than one guy asking what a rebuild would cost!!



What's the matter, don't like it when one of the guys that supported you can see what I am trying to point out.



Why should it matter to you what I have in my signature??



You sound like one of those guys from the gang or herd or whatever their calling themselves and I expect this thread to be removed any minute know just like they always do so no one has proof of how big of a jerk they are.



Now drag your knuckles back to the cave and ponder on that.



Ron



Just in case your haveing trouble comprehending, I intentionally misspelled your name.

 

[pro99]

47re

Well I don't need anyone working on my stuff like you, so you can keep forking out the big money like your talk and I will set back and pay little and go allot father down the road than you because you are just another person that we can take money from and call a squid!!

 

[pwr2tow]

BLOWINGHOTAIR,

Maybe I could give you the number of a certain transmission parts producer, you sound like just the kind of man they want as their qualified installer, the same mentality.



Ron

 

[pwr2tow]

OVERBOOSTEDAIR,

Sounds like one of the guys thinks the super dooper slick trannys are worth the money. I guess I'll keep spending the money on them and getting quality service and parts rather than someone who thinks their a great transmission builder .



Ron

 

[klaybus]

Guys!

As entertaining as this thread has become, please stop! I was just asking a question & I appreciate the responses from all of you but enough is enough! End it on the fact that you don't agree on the price to rebuild a transmission & or what components to replace & or upgrade.

I know you both have info to contribute to TDR so lets end it.



Thanks!



Clay

 

[LSMITH]

Ron, look up the numbers of clutches would ya?

 

[pro99]

47RE

No that's ok. Keep the number to yourself and your over paid trans parts. I will keep building transmissions charging what I stated and move on. You on the other hand will still be paying high dollars for parts and labor because you have no clue or the mentality to do it yourself. You’re the one that can't spell and has a grammar concern. If you could build transmissions as good as you talk trash then I would agree with you but you can't!! You must be the owner of a hamburger stand. Ronald



You say why rebuild a trans and use old parts? You should then trade your truck in for a new one right? Because that's what your doing anyway right? Putting a new trans in an old truck.



Your the one with hot air, I have proven my point and too many people say I’m right in my estimates... and in this thread Ronald!!



Allot of people are laughing at you Ronald!! When are you going to give up??

 

[pwr2tow]

Re: 47RE

Originally posted by PROTURBO

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No one said anything about you have to use the best parts for a good rebuild RON!! Just because you got that link bd power trans does not mean you can go around telling people how much it will cost.

I am glad you think BD uses the best parts:-laf :-laf,







To be fair to BD I should add a disclaimer.



DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with BD other than I have their transmission in my truck that I paid my hard earned money to get. Everything in my signature was bought and paid for by my wife and me.



Did I mention BD's transmission works perfectly with 100% power to the ground in lockup in 2nd gear, 3rd gear, and OD and the fluid coupleing going through the gears unlocked is superior to anything I have towed with in the past. You can not get that from a TC that unlocks when you put power to it.



Ron

 

[pro99]

47RE

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to do that on a valve body but you must. RONALD do a check with your quality trans place and ask then if they are brand-new parts or rebuilt? Why do you think they ask for your old ones back? It’s no different than me putting it together. Come on pull your head out and take a breath. Do you know how much sh?? You’re talking. By all means keep spending the money. That is all you getting is used parts back blowhard Ronald.

 

[pwr2tow]

Clay,

Your right, since you are the thread starter I will respect your wishes.



Ron

 

[Sixpack]

Shoot..... I was just getting comfortable!

 

[pro99]

47re

sorry clay

 

[JTBMC]

So with all that said,

What would cause second gear starts and no over drive, only at tempretures below 40 degrees. If I kill the engine and restart, it then goes into first gear and over drive is working again.

And how much debris and what type of debris should be seen in the pan and on the trans filter at the first trans oil change at 1000 miles after the rebuild and then again at 10,000 miles, and again at 20,000.

My friend JJ just had the dealer rebuild his Y2K trans at 103, 000 miles and at the first oil change there was no debris in the pan and at both the 10,000 & the 20,000 mile change there waas a large amount of black fiber and a small & amount of silver metel particals about 1/8 inch by 1/8inch. Any way the Dealer tells him this is normal sense he tows 7000 # campers for a living. This cant be true. Debris surley means something is wearing out and fast.

Thanks, TJ