I have heard and seen good numbers with 3rd Gens but c'mon. 780hp 1800 ft. lb, no way, I have seen 613, 615, 709 (hp) with 3rd Gens but no such thing of 1800ft lbs. The truck with 613 was just over 1000ft lb. This truck was Impressive. I dont know if wizards like Enterprise, Piers, etc. could even pump out this power and keep the truck Reliable and use it every day, this guy would have to everything inside and out If these numbers are true though I want a complete parts list so i can make my truck do the same HA HA HA