800 punds of torque coming soon!

[RustyJC]

Yeah, it looks like the NV5600 weighed ~360 lbs. See HERE.



Rusty

 

[HBarlow]

Yep, you guys are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. Guess I stopped short of reading the lowest lines on the page.

I retract my question asking why anyone would want one. I see why the Eaton wa suggested now.

 

[Slow Six]

I have been driving an FL70 at work with one of these transmissions behind a 7. 2 Cat. I often wished this combination was in my 3500. I like the transmission and the engine is really nice to drive. The only complaint on the transmission is there is a long hole between 4th and 5th but the great torque range of the little Cat covers it quite well.

 

[retirednak]

I'm almost willing to bet that Dodge will come up with a manual trans able to handle the new found torque and power. It may be a year or so down the road. With the issues with higher mileage manuals cropping up,no way can the current 6 speed hold up. But most know that already. Saw my first TV add tonight for the HO Ram 3500.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Yep, you guys are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. Guess I stopped short of reading the lowest lines on the page.



I retract my question asking why anyone would want one. I see why the Eaton wa suggested now.

And I thought only "GOD" could set HB straight. :-laf Just funnin' you HB. Have a great day.

 

[HBarlow]

And I thought only "GOD" could set HB straight. :-laf Just funnin' you HB. Have a great day.

I get burned occasionally.

 

[Tomscreek]

Man, what do you guys pull that you need 800 ft. lbs. and a 7 speed trans. ? We're almost talking semi truck capabilities here. My ol HO with 505 ft. lbs. does so good for my needs that I've never even modded it.

 

[topcat]

Has anyone seen the tow limits for Mid 2011 High Output Ram 2500/3500 SRW,longbed,shortbed 4x2,4x4. As I understand this option will be for 2500/3500 SRW as well as 3500 DRW. ?

 

[AH64ID]

Man, what do you guys pull that you need 800 ft. lbs. and a 7 speed trans. ? We're almost talking semi truck capabilities here. My ol HO with 505 ft. lbs. does so good for my needs that I've never even modded it.

Need or want??



I want a 7 speed manual so that at 65 mph I am at 2150 or so rpm's in "6th" and can pull any grade at ease, but when empty 7th will be right at 2000 doing 80 (with the tires I have, stock tires will see a few more rpms)... Best of both worlds, good OD for towing, and good OD for cruising.

Has anyone seen the tow limits for Mid 2011 High Output Ram 2500/3500 SRW,longbed,shortbed 4x2,4x4. As I understand this option will be for 2500/3500 SRW as well as 3500 DRW. ?

Dodge reported GCWR would remain unchaned for SRW trucks, so the tow rating will remain unchanged.

 

[HBarlow]

Need or want??

I want a 7 speed manual so that at 65 mph I am at 2150 or so rpm's in "6th" and can pull any grade at ease, but when empty 7th will be right at 2000 doing 80 (with the tires I have, stock tires will see a few more rpms)... Best of both worlds, good OD for towing, and good OD for cruising... ..... <snip> ... ... ... ...

I would give serious consideration to going back to a Ram with a manual transmission if a seven speed real truck transmission could be optioned.

 

[NIsaacs]

You were looking at a FS series, not a FSO series. The O indicates overdrive. Its a . 78:1 as others have noted, with 3. 73's it makes a killer OD for towing.



Here are some of the ratios of Dodge trans vs the FSO.



Also a FSO-6406A Swap. NV5600 to FSO6406A 6 speed Fuller - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

Looking at the ratio tables, the FSO might be as close to perfect as you can get with the current 3. 42 rear axle. With a 7. 06 first (start-ability) and the 0. 78 (somewhat short) overdrive you should have a good go home gear. If anything, the 3. 42 might be still too slow. With 5th (direct) as a towing gear, it would be awesome uphill but might be a hair slow for good, heavy flat towing. My '01 with 3. 55's is a little too slow in 5th for towing on the level or small rolling hills but works great for uphill.



Nick

 

[CTaylor]

I would give serious consideration to going back to a Ram with a manual transmission if a seven speed real truck transmission could be optioned.

I agree, it does get the juices flowing a bit just thinking about that:-laf

 

[macdaddy]

Anyone see the Dodge commercial today while watching the Daytona 500?.



Pretty nice add for the new 800 HO.



Mac

 

[craiggo]

Harvey,

I was reading Issue 71 and I saw something you might find interesting. On page 146 there is a write up on the Edge Insight CTS (though you probably also want to read articles on pg 58 that also discuss this). As a side note, I wouldn't suggest mounting it where the author did in the middle of the dash because it's a touch screen with lots of good data. Placing it there (IMO) makes it way more difficult (and dangerous) to access, especially when towing.

On another note, page 89 has an interesting advertisement for an ATS Diesel Performance Transmission Management Computer. The third bullet down says, "Eliminates Torque-Management, allowing full command power delivery. "

Happy reading

 

[HBarlow]

I'll read the articles. I have normally skipped over discussions and advertising copy for the aftermarket magic black boxes so am way behind on those subjects.

 

[AH64ID]

On another note, page 89 has an interesting advertisement for an ATS Diesel Performance Transmission Management Computer. The third bullet down says, "Eliminates Torque-Management, allowing full command power delivery. "



Happy reading

Sounds like it tells the ECM it's in a different gear?

 

[CUMMINZ]

Looks like I'm not the only one trying - eliminating torque management -

 

[craiggo]

Looks like I'm not the only one trying - eliminating torque management -

Well it looks like you are in luck... . ATS has a plug-and-play solution to get rid of it. I'd like to hear what the difference is if you get one.



CoPilot - 20010+ Dodge 68RFE:



"Dodge/Ram designed the transmission, torque converter and transmission control system to be part of the “torque management“ system. In large part this elaborate and complex design severely limits the torque capacity, performance and functionality of the transmission. The stock “torque management” design disables and limits the power that can be put through the transmission in situations when the power is most needed. The 68-RFE Co-Pilot eliminates the torque management based transmission control by providing all signals necessary to achieve proper line pressure, clutch application and to TCC control to provide for maximum transmission strength and performance while never setting a check engine light. All factory diagnostics are still active and the factory computer will notify the driver if there is a mechanical or electrical problem with the transmission. "

 

[AH64ID]

Looks like I'm not the only one trying - eliminating torque management -

Well it looks like you are in luck... . ATS has a plug-and-play solution to get rid of it. I'd like to hear what the difference is if you get one.



CoPilot - 20010+ Dodge 68RFE:



"Dodge/Ram designed the transmission, torque converter and transmission control system to be part of the “torque management“ system. In large part this elaborate and complex design severely limits the torque capacity, performance and functionality of the transmission. The stock “torque management” design disables and limits the power that can be put through the transmission in situations when the power is most needed. The 68-RFE Co-Pilot eliminates the torque management based transmission control by providing all signals necessary to achieve proper line pressure, clutch application and to TCC control to provide for maximum transmission strength and performance while never setting a check engine light. All factory diagnostics are still active and the factory computer will notify the driver if there is a mechanical or electrical problem with the transmission. "

Eliminating that much tq management is a racing feature, not a DD or towing feature on a stock transmission, not unless you are wanting a race transmission really soon.



One of the reasons I like the Smarty Jr is it has more "soft" tq management options that are great for towing. The most agfressive option on the Jr is the least aggressive on the Sr. It still gets the load moving noticable faster, is more fun to drive, but not as hard on the trans.

 

[craiggo]

Eliminating that much tq management is a racing feature, not a DD or towing feature on a stock transmission, not unless you are wanting a race transmission really soon.



One of the reasons I like the Smarty Jr is it has more "soft" tq management options that are great for towing. The most agfressive option on the Jr is the least aggressive on the Sr. It still gets the load moving noticable faster, is more fun to drive, but not as hard on the trans.

Good point, I wasn't even thinking of that. I just saw "torque management" and thought of this discussion.



Craig