Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) '94-'98.5 Lift pumps discountinued???

[HEMI®Dart]

Just at the Dodge Dealer. Asked about a Lift pump for a '94. Service guy says "discontinued".



I re-phased the question: "the '94-'98. 5 Transfer/Lift pumps for the 12 valve Cummins are discontinued?"



He Posed the question to a parts guy that was walking past. He says "yep"



Said yes, They have been so problematic over the years, the new design puts the pump inside the tank, kit comes w/ block off plates for the OEM pump holes.



Cost $500-600.



Am I missing something?

 

[cerberusiam]

Nope, all the new trucks went to the in-tank pump for better reliability. The retrofit is move the pump to the tank.



This is the first I have heard of a dealer wanting to replace the mechanical pump with an electric though. Unless the supplier of those pumps has quit making them, which may be possible in this screwy economy, the parts guy probably just missed the differences.

 

[MLee]

Do you need one or just inquiring? for conversation? Geno's has them. @ a good price.

 

[fest3er]

Just at the Dodge Dealer. Asked about a Lift pump for a '94. Service guy says "discontinued".



I re-phased the question: "the '94-'98. 5 Transfer/Lift pumps for the 12 valve Cummins are discontinued?"



He Posed the question to a parts guy that was walking past. He says "yep"



Said yes, They have been so problematic over the years, the new design puts the pump inside the tank, kit comes w/ block off plates for the OEM pump holes.

Really? I thought the mechanical pump was amazingly reliable. Rather, it was the 98. 5-2002 electric lift pump that was woefully misapplied to the engine.



You might want to go back and double-verify that they were talking about "the 94-98 12-valve engine and NOT the 98. 5-02 24-valve engine". Then ask them for a ballpark estimate of how many 12-valve mechanical lift pump failures versus 24-valve lift pump failures they've seen over the years.



If they maintain that the 12-valve lift pump is worse than the 24-valve lift pump, flee from such knavery as quickly as you can. Then contact the nearest shop that works on B5. 9s and ask them.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Do you need one or just inquiring? for conversation? Geno's has them. @ a good price.

Larry B's has them for $70 to-the-door.



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[HEMI®Dart]

Really? I thought the mechanical pump was amazingly reliable. Rather, it was the 98. 5-2002 electric lift pump that was woefully misapplied to the engine.



You might want to go back and double-verify that they were talking about "the 94-98 12-valve engine and NOT the 98. 5-02 24-valve engine". Then ask them for a ballpark estimate of how many 12-valve mechanical lift pump failures versus 24-valve lift pump failures they've seen over the years.



If they maintain that the 12-valve lift pump is worse than the 24-valve lift pump, flee from such knavery as quickly as you can. Then contact the nearest shop that works on B5. 9s and ask them.

You are right Neal. He had to be talking about the '98-'02 24V trucks. I re-asked the question "so the '94-'98 mechanical piston pump Lift/transfer pump for the 12V engines are discontinued?"



Answer: YES!



That goes to show you steer far away for the Dodge dealer.

 

[HBarlow]

Don't forget Cummins dealers. They have long been a better and cheaper source for many parts.

 

[hsmith]

The in-tank conversions does not include the 12 valve engines.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

The in-tank conversions does not include the 12 valve engines.

We don't need the in-tank conversion. The bulletproof 12v lift pump is all we need.

 

[DieselDoghouse]

Hmm - possibly did you ask this on a Monday, when a looong weekend could have clouded clear thinking (not yours!!). I seem to run into this alot at parts counters. When I last checked the pump was available from all the sources above, still cross referenced in the Carter's listings, and still manufactured for use on Case tractors for example!

 

[MAllen1]

I have a 99, and i've been going to Cummins South for 10 yrs. for everything conserning the engine. I even have the stock lift pump on mine (although it's a replacement from Cummins, but the one from Cummins has lasted 10 yrs. ) . I do have an auxilary pump from BD on the framerail to keep the pressure up around 22 psi because of other fuel enhancements. But to get back to point, Dodge is not where you need to go for anything for the engine, you will find the aftermarket (and I put Cummins in there with aftermarket even though it "really" isn't) is cheaper, more reliable, and more accessable on "factory" replacement parts.