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This is From Chip at Blue Chips diesel, and sheds a new light on VP Failure. Just a thought, please feel free to add any information to this thread or debate what he says. I'd really like some opinions here.



BOSCH VP44 INJECTION PUMP AND LIFT PUMP FAILURES EXPLAINED









The best way to start this explanation is to quote an e-mail that was found on the Cummins website. “The Bosch VP44 has not been as reliable as we had hoped”. Depending on who you talk to and who you think is being honest, you will get only some of the information you need. I will endeavor here to get you up to date and informed; the reason I can tell you more is because Bosch has not, until recently, allowed any franchised dealer to service, dismantle or deal with the problems except to send defective pumps back to the manufacturing factory. Blue Chip has dismantled many pumps to figure them out and diagnose what failed and what caused the failure. We do not pretend to be any where near as smart as Bosch, but since there was no information and or truth out there, we felt we had to get the best information we could any way possible. It is this dismantling and learning process that allowed us to get a patent and a performance product to market.



The most common MECHANICAL problem with the VP44 pump is that the rotor seizes in the distributor section of the pump. I should note here that all previous rotary style pumps have had this potential problem, to varying degrees. The most common cause and most accepted reason for this failure on rotary pumps is lack of lubrication due to running out of fuel or the lower lubricity of the newer low sulphur fuels.



In the case of the VP44 it is more common for the rotor to seize in the distributor because the rotor was not "deburred" enough or correctly during manufacture. Under the higher working high pressure in the VP44 the edge of the slot in the rotor deflects and interferes with the distributor. Sooner or later the result is a galling of the two parts and then binding and then seizure. The seizure causes the "Drive Plate" to break and the truck stops running. There is less than a half a thousanth of an inch clearance between the two parts, so it doesn't take much to make the rotor interfere with the rotor. Pumps made recently ( since about 2000) are experiencing fewer of these kinds of failures, it seems to me.



The other reason injection pumps fail is electrical issues and failures. The computer on the top of the VP44 is susceptible to heat and heat cycles. The components on the circuit board develop bad connections over time and the result is hard start, poor perfromance, white smoke and driveability issues. Often these issues can be verified by codes set in the ECM.



A lot of people now know about bad lift pumps and think they are the cause of VP44 failures; NOT SO! Starting with the early 98’s, not only were they weak pressure wise, but also had exposed terminals on the bottom that corrode off in salt environments. The way to tell if you have a corrosion sensitive pump is to see if the electrical connection is a plug on a 6-inch pigtail coming from the bottom of the pump. If the plug is on the top cover of the pump you’re all set!



If the lift pump fails the truck stays running because there is another vane pump in the front of the injection pump, which keeps the fuel flowing AND THEREFORE LUBRICATION to the rotor. As long as there is return fuel flow from the injection pump there is lubrication to the rotor. The existence of the vane pump in the front of the VP44 is why these trucks keep running with a bad lift pump! The only accurate way to test a lift pump is to monitor pressure UNDER LOAD and if it is above 5 PSI, no performance is lost and the pump is OK. If pressure is less than this, a drastic reduction in horsepower can be felt, especially when pulling a trailer. The usual scenerio is a customer puts a performance box on his truck and the lift pump can't produce enough fuel to make more horsepower, and the performance product gets the blame.



Often people have said that increased pressure from add-on devices cause the failure. This statement only indicates their lack of knowledge, because, unlike most pumps, the VP44 pump does not create more fuel delivery by increasing pressure. The VP44 creates more fuel delivery by holding the fuel bypass solenoid closed longer. Fuel delivery pressure is controlled by the “pop off pressure “ of the injector.



The reason any aftermarket device that hooks up to the solenoid wire is blamed for the failure is that the failure 99 times out of 100 (honest numbers here) the pump fails within 20 minutes of running with power enhancement. The reason this happens is because the fuel solenoid is held closed longer, therefore using more length of the slot in the rotor. The slot in the rotor overlaps a hole in the distributor to allow for different timing and amounts of fuel to be delivered to the injector and when the solenoid holds the bypass solenoid closed longer, then the high “pop off” pressure is still there when the middle of the slot overlaps the hole. The middle of the slot is the weakest area and therefore deflects, interferes and seizes. Pump failure with fuel enhancement devices is not CAUSED by the enhancement device, but PRECIPITATED by the device. WE think this is a “glass half full” scenario rather than a “glass half empty” one, because the potential, eventual failure can be determined within controllable parameters, namely on the test run at higher power, close to home or the local dealer. The other side of the coin is, honestly, if your truck is still running 20 minutes after the installation you have a 90% chance your pump will last a reasonable length of time. Adding a power enhancement device that hooks to the solenoid wire can give you peace of mind that you can depend on the pump.



We at Blue Chip have invented a pump tester that hooks up to the same wires that we use for our performance products on the pump and can tell you in a very short time whether or not there are actual fuel signals going to the solenoid and therefore determining if the pump is working correctly. The only exception to this is if fuse number 9, in the fusebox on the left side if the dash, is blown; in other words, to diagnose a pump failure verify that fuse number nine is not blown and hook up our tester. Crank the engine and if the LED blinks you have a good pump; there are other rare kinds of pump problems, but if our tester says the pump is OK, the engine should at least idle and run. This is much easier and much less time consuming than either the Cummins tester or the DRB3 tool at the Dodge dealer. Our tester does not forecast life expectancy of the injection pump.



Lastly the installation of bigger injectors; do they alleviate the high pressure and therefore failures in the VP44? Absolutely NOT. They are a bigger hole so fuel volume is increased at the same pressure. Remember fuel pressure is controlled by “Pop off” pressure more than the size of the hole! Bigger injectors do get more fuel into the combustion chamber sooner, therefore giving the engine better throttle response. Bigger injectors are worth it but not for the reason of saving the pump.







Thanks for reading, Chip Fisher, owner of Blue Chip Diesel Performance





Sean
 
Thanks for the Info. I am thinking of going to bigger injectors

eventually. Replaced my injection pump about 15,000 miles ago at 70,000. Do you sell the tester you were talking about. Good post. Thanks for sharing.

Take Care

Mike
 
MFranz said:
. Do you sell the tester you were talking about.

Mike



Make no mistake, I wasn't the one that wrote this article. I just found it and thought it was a very good read that could use some circulation. To answer your question though. I do believe that Blue chip diesel does sell the tester that was mentioned in the article. here is a link to their site, where you can find contact info and talk to them direct about the tester.

http://www.bluechipdiesel.com/index.html

Sean
 
ACTUALLY, I think this is the same article that has existed on their website for some time now - perhaps a couple of years - at least much of it has been presented here in other similar threads.



This is worth mentioning (perhaps) because SOME of the issues related above have long since been corrected in later revisions of the VP-44 - such as the design of the drive slot/seizure - that issue has long since been addressed by Bosch as I understand it.



Strangely, BC totally ignored the relatively frequent failure if the pressure differential diaphragm that often fatigued and cracked under fuel PSI variations usually caused by weak lift pump fuel pressure to the VP-44 - that was also revised and strengthened in later VP-44 versions.



Similarly, later revisions in the electronics modules have been geared to help those live longer in their environment.



The article provides an excellent overview of the operation and failure points in early versions of the VP-44 - but at this point, in relation to revisions over time, is somewhat outdated in some areas. Still a good read.



The one related issue presented, is one that guys doing substantial fuel delivery mods for fuel flow/PSI TO the VP-44 should consider:



Often people have said that increased pressure from add-on devices cause the failure. This statement only indicates their lack of knowledge, because, unlike most pumps, the VP44 pump does not create more fuel delivery by increasing pressure. The VP44 creates more fuel delivery by holding the fuel bypass solenoid closed longer. Fuel delivery pressure is controlled by the “pop off pressure “ of the injector.
 
Looks like the same article to me too. Still good though, and Gary has good input about the updates since then, steel advance piston etc etc, lam4 PSG etc etc, diaphram as Gary mentioned.



I feel that we are getting a better Vp44 now (rebuilt) than when I bought my ETC new in 02 because of the upgrades.



Bob Weis
 
Maybe rebuilt VP's are better than new... just too bad it took so many expensive (either for owner, or for D-C under warranty) failures for the issue to be addressed.



Still, I am crossing my fingers that because mine was early, quality control was good (as in not deteriorated over time) on the plunger deburring operation and my pump will run for many more thousands of miles.



Tim
 
Here's another read from Chip

UPGRADED REBUILT VP44 INJECTION PUMP FROM BLUE CHIP DIESEL



Over the last two years we have developed the most cost effective way to deal with the problem fuel systems on trucks with the VP44 injection pump. We have made for us a superior VP44 injection pump that admittedly costs more up front but works much better and lasts much longer. This is the result of a lot of research and keeping our ear to the ground in this industry to stay on top of our game and offer the best upgraded pump available. All of our rebuilt pumps come with a NEW upgraded housing and a NEW upgraded computer as these components have been the cause of the most problems.

The housings on the VP44 wear out due to low fuel pressure from bad lift pumps causing the diaphragm in the front of the pump to rupture. This causes the steel timing piston to vibrate in the aluminum bore of the housing and the result in a short time is the housing wears to the point that fuel bypasses the piston and full advance cannot be accomplished which causes the code 216. This makes perfect sense to me as it explains why as 24 valve trucks get older the fuel mileage goes down steadily, and when we replace the injection pump with one that has a new case we get the mileage back! In a typical competitor's rebuild, if the case isn't worn out completely and the timing can be reached on the test stand then it passes the test and a partly worn out case gets to the customer, just to fail sooner. It should also be pointed out that the replacement housings we use, have a brass/bronze insert for the timing piston, which the original housings did not have. The code 216 only tells you that the housing is worn out, but does NOT cause any drivabilty issues, other than lost power and fuel mileage. As these symptoms come on slowly the driver isn't aware of the change until they drive one of our replacement units and get back the power and mileage.

The other component that causes morel of the drivability issues is the computer on the top of the injection pump. The computer gets intermittent and eventually dies because of too many heat cycles. When you shut the truck off the latent heat in the engine heats up the computer and after many heat cycles the solder that holds the electrical components to the circuit board becomes crystalline and no longer makes a good electrical connection causing intermittent drivability issues, such as "dead pedal" which dissapears if you shut off the truck and restart it, intermittent hard cold start, intermittent hard hot start and white smoke occasionally. These drivability issues usually get so bad that the customer finally takes the truck in for diagnosis, only to find none of these issues create a diagnostic code or a so called DTC. This makes it hard for the inexperienced mechanic to advise the customer honestly or accurately.

Federal Express experienced so many computer failures that they convinced Bosch to make them a special computer to deal with this issue, because the so called improved computer that most rebuilders use, doesn't work or last much better than the old ones. Well as you might have guessed by now, ALL of our pumps come with a new Fedex style computer. This computer is the one used on Fedex's Freightliner chassis used in so many of their delivery trucks. One of the problems we had to overcome to be able to use this computer was the difference in the software in the Freightliner computer. The maximum RPM is limited to 2500, which won't do in a Dodge application, and the rest of the software makes the Dodge run badly. WE figured out how to get Dodge software into the Fedex computer and it works great. It is exactly the same software Dodge uses so it works fine with all aftermarket devices. Our competitors don't often replace the computer as it is expensive and if it works on the test stand then it must be okay! It isn't tested in prolonged heat and or cool in the typical rebuild process so it may act differently when in the field in your truck.

We have been selling these pumps for over two years and our custompers that haul RVs for a living and do crazy mileage per year have not had any injection pump issues to date. Now that we have over 400 pumps in the marketplace and we have less than a one percent failure rate we feel very confident we are selling a better product and value. Our warranty is unlimited mileage for one year after the installation date. There are three things that WILL VOID this warranty. One is contaminated fuel, which is becoming all too prevalent as we switch to ultra low sulphur fuel, the second is if you break the diaphram in the front of the injection pump ( this can ONLY be due to low fuel pressure ) and thirdly if you make a "nick" in the solenoid wire by hooking up a fueling style performance box. We offer a replacement plastic "Pump Cover" to make that electrical connection, which to date has not been discovered by Bosch and therefore become a way to deny warranty.

A very smart thing to do to save money and do the best you can to keep your new injection pump in warranty is to install a "Low Fuel Pressure Warning Kit". This will tell you when to change your fuel filter ( now you will save money because you will be replacing fuel filters by restriction instead of when the whim occurs to you) and if that doesn't raise the pressure to keep the light out, then you need a new lift pump. This will prevent you from ruining the diaphram in the injection pump and causing the related problems which are not covered by warranty.

We sell our upgraded rebuilt VP44 for $1600. 00 exchange. This means we charge an additional $1400. 00 core charge, refundable upon receipt of the old pump. This tells you how badly we need your old pump back to get it rebuilt and available for resale. If this is a financial burden to you feel free to send the old pump first and we will ship the rebuilt unit the same day.

We sell a direct replacement for the lift pump for $208. 00 and the Low Fuel Pressure Warning Kit for $50. 00



Please call toll free 888-ISB-PERF or 888-472-7373 to order.
 
Part II from Chip

HOW TO DIAGNOSE THE VP44 FUEL SYSTEM ACCURATELY



IF your truck "Bucks" under hard load or towing this is an indication the engine is probably starving for fuel. To test fuel delivery or pressure, install a fuel pressure gauge with a long hose on it after the fuel filter and before the injection pump. Click the ignition key to the start function, so the engine doesn't start, and let go; the lift pump should run 25 seconds. If you don't hear the lift pump test for 12 volts going in to it and if it doesn't run with 12 volts going into it, replace it. If you do hear it run and it doesn't make at least 5 PSI replace the fuel filter. If, after changing the filter, it does make at least 5 PSI go drive the truck UNDER LOAD. If it doesn't make at least 5 PSI after changing the filter, or if you have to pressurize the fuel tank to bleed the system to get the truck to run, then change the lift pump. Revving it up proves NOTHING. If DRIVING UNDER LOAD the pressure drops below 5 PSI, replace the fuel filter ( if you haven't already done so ) and if that doesn't fix it, you need a new lift pump. We proved on a dyno in 1998 that if you have 5 PSI, under load, you can make all the power available from a VP44. Do not use more than 12 PSI or you will diminish fuel delivery to the rotor and make the truck run worse at high RPM and possibly overheat and damage the fuel bypass solenoid. This diagnosis is only for the lift pump, but is necessary for the happiness and success of installing an injection pump and not having other issues down the road!



If you have an intermittent "Dead Pedal" this can be caused by either a faulty APPS (Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor) or a faulty computer on the VP44 injection pump. Since the APPS is only $460. 00 from D/C and it is cheaper than a replacement injection pump, get someone to "scan" the ECM ( not the PCM) in your truck to check for any DTC codes pertaining to the APPS. If there are none you DON'T need an APPS, as a bad APPS always displays a code. YOU NEED AN INJECTION PUMP.



If you see the code 216, or if there are NO codes for the injection pump AND you have ANY of the above listed drivability complaints,YOU NEED AN INJECTION PUMP! Code 1693 only means there are codes in the other computer, which have NOTHING to do with the fuel system.



There are basically only two other components to the fuel sysytem in a VP44 fueled truck and they are the ECM (Engine Control Module) and the injectors. Neither of these give any trouble typically. In 13 years of doing ONLY Dodges every day I have never seen or even heard of a bad ECM and or injector. It would be highly improbable that either component would cause any of the aforementioned drivability issues.



The other situation that is pretty easy to diagnose is when the truck dies driving down the road, for no apparerent reason, or when you let off the throttle, especially at high RPM. This is usually a seized rotor in the injection pump and most common on 1898 and 1999 trucks. The poorly "deburred" rotors seem to have been mostly limited to those years of manufacture. If this happens to your truck and you want to diagnose it simply, positively and accurately, do the following. Loosen three injectior lines at the valve cover. Crank the engine for a few times for 30 seconds and if fuel only comes out one line or none of the lines, this indicates a seized rotor. I know this because we proved you can not put this pump in a hydraulic lock, so therefore fuel should come out of every line if the rotor is turning. If you have fuel coming from one line only that is where the rotor is stuck. If you have no fuel from any line opened then it is stuck at one that is closed. If you get fuel from all three lines you must bleed the engine to get it to run again and then you have to figure out why it ran out of fuel.



If you diagnose your truck and need an injection pump, or other fuel related products we sell, we'd be pleased to assist you in doing the replacement yourself, or assisting your chosen mechanic in doing same, over the phone. In fact we can provide you with the necessary puller to get the gear off the front of the injection pump . You may own it for $50, or rent it for nothing if you buy a pump from us. We will also tell you some tricks of the trade on how to install the components we sell. We help lots of folks fix lots of trucks over the phone every day for no profit. Please DO NOT call and ask us how to install our competitor's products. Let your conscience be your guide! Our toll free number is 888-ISB- PERF or 888-472-7373 for SALES and 603-878-6000 for "potential "customer support. We can only hope that this gives us some good will and or a friendly cooperative reputation. We can chock it up to our advertising budget I guess.



Speed Safely is our motto, Chip Fisher owner
 
It should also be pointed out that the replacement housings we use, have a brass/bronze insert for the timing piston, which the original housings did not have.



This too appears to be a dated comment - as it has been previously reported that the switch to a brass liner for the VP-44 advance cylinder was an even BIGGER mistake than an aluminum one, and was quickly abandoned due to even poorer VP-44 lifespan than before.



Current replacement pumps as authorized by Bosch are now using steel liners - and have been for some time.



I can confirm this with the case and brass-lined advance cylinder returned to me when my own '02 VP-44 failed, and was repaired by Industrial Injection - that original VP-44 case is in the closet right behind me, and I have pictures of that worn liner at about 45K miles.



As reported by II, latest reconditioned VP-44's they do are using neither aluminum or brass, but steel - and they too claim no related failures in that cylinder after the upgrade...



SO, take your choice, brass, or steel... ;) :D



Otherwise, good info - I hope the TDR member and "electronics expert" who roasted me a while back in a related thread for mentioning the part about heat cycles damaging the solder in the VP-44 computer and causing failures reads that first section where those very failures are mentioned by Chip... :D



The computer gets intermittent and eventually dies because of too many heat cycles. When you shut the truck off the latent heat in the engine heats up the computer and after many heat cycles the solder that holds the electrical components to the circuit board becomes crystalline and no longer makes a good electrical connection causing intermittent drivability issues, such as "dead pedal" which dissapears if you shut off the truck and restart it, intermittent hard cold start, intermittent hard hot start and white smoke occasionally.
 
The other point to take from Chip, a reputable source, is the lift pump pressure recommendations. I see a lot of people on here claim they are on their 5th, 6th lift pump because pressures dropped below 8-10 on a WOT run. Dumb. Send me those "failed" lift pumps and I'll run them like I'm running my factory one now.



Origional LP. Origional VP.



Haven't posted in a while, feels good. I think I'll buy a new lift pump.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I didn't know if this was dated material or not, this was the first I had come across it and I haven't seen as much circulation on the information as I would have expected. The past two days have been loaded with new information to me about these trucks. Thanks again everyone.

Sean
 
Dated or not, it's all good info, besides readers here don't all drive later trucks, and the provided info is VERY pertinent to guys with the older stuff...
 
On the bluechips website there is a low fuel pressure warning kit for 50 bucks, does anyone have any experience with this? How does it install and work? Thanks.
 
surfbeetle said:
On the bluechips website there is a low fuel pressure warning kit for 50 bucks, does anyone have any experience with this? How does it install and work? Thanks.

It should just install with a banjo bolt. I was going to make my own with the tapped banjo from GDP, a pressure switch and an LED, the whole thing works out to be about $20-25 but I went the gauge route instead.

Sean
 
Campaign pump has some hardware that could be used for low FP

The $70 Campaign pumps come with a pressure switch that I believe wires into the school buses to trigger a low pressure warning light? Something like that anyhow... It comes with a wiring harness, sender & banjo.

I'm sure something could be done with it by someone that has some electrical knowledge... . Gary, are you listening?



Clay
 
sstockton said:
It should just install with a banjo bolt. I was going to make my own with the tapped banjo from GDP, a pressure switch and an LED, the whole thing works out to be about $20-25 but I went the gauge route instead.

Sean



The "gauge route" is OK - but several times in driving my '02 - WITH gauges - I have lost or experienced serious PSI fluctuations that I didn't catch immediately since I wasn't looking at the gauge at the time. One of those incidents was only a few weeks ago, when unexpected low local temps dropped my fuel to the gel point, and my VP-44 was left gasping for fuel - another was when the power plug dropped loose from one of my fuel pumps...



Some sort of light or audible alarm would be a GOOD thing - and I think I'll work on it, since I've been bitten a few time with low PSI myself... :eek:
 
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