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First... none of this belongs in here and second, thanks for putting it in here for the rest of us... .



Wow..... all of the above applies in our case..... we've seen the best and the worst in our two kids. . the girl. . so serious, mature, caring that it is almost embarrassing... she has made it her personal mission to make sure that my son's twin boys get a good up bringing. . since neither mom nor dad (my son) will take responsibility at this time...

She has taken so many courses in child care/rearing, care of serverly/profoundly handicapped with focus on children. . advanced feeding and care for kids that need to be tube fed, and have their breathing tubes inserted/changed, basic psychology, two levels of first-aid training and so much more I can't list it all...

She has worked hard, sometimes at two jobs... saved her $$ and paid for trips to Europe to visit an exchange student who stayed with her while going to school here, a trip to Hawaii, Mexico and more, all on her own work efforts...

We've only learned just recently that she was the victim of some uwanted attention when she was young... it leaves you feeling both amazed AND desparing at the same time... were where we when this happened, why didn't we see it... .



My son, well, he's got alot of growing up to do... he dropped out of highschool, got into some non-prescribed stuff... and we found over time, that our personal property was being used to finance his room and board at friends places, and his other vices...

He has twin sons who were born at 7 months... in ICU for almost the remainder of 2 more months, with respiratory problems due to under developed lungs, sensitivity to dairy and other stuff... but they also have two of the most bad ass smiles and personalities you could ever want.....

It's like now we feel the chance to try again with these two kids and see if we can help get THEM off to a good start...

On the up side, my son has hooked up with a nice gal and is actually working, starting to make his child payments, and seems to be slowly coming back to the center of the road...

We've had horrendous scares, mis-diagnosed bone cancer, a drive off a near vertical cliff in a dune buggy with only the trees keeping him and his buddy from meeting their maker and he had to carry his buddy out almost 1. 5 miles to get help...

We also see that he is now getting the "work on cars/trucks" bug that young men go thru... perhaps that will open a door of contact and communication that has so far not been there...

So, I'd like to add that we still hope and want them both to grow up, be happy, take part and, in some way make my wife and I feel that we made some small contribution to them and their world...



All of this and so much more are what motivate me to try and help pretty much anyone I can, to try and make a difference and contribute to those around us as often as we can... after all, this ain't but a visit on this planet so get it right the first time... .

OH, and don't buy a Ford or a Chev either... :D:D:D;) or you'll end up with a big nasty honkin RWHP penalty..... :D

Bob...
 
Great stuff, EZGZ! I am the son in your story, the one that left the tools out, etc, etc. Knew everything about everything when I was 12 and my Dad couldn't find his butt with both hands . . . . and then I moved out and got a job and bills and a wife and a mortgage. Figured out real quick that Dad is one of the smartest guys I've ever known and that I was the dumb one. Self made man, no help from a rich uncle or anything like that, but has done damn well for himself, along with Mom's help and support. Great family man, married to Mom for almost 50 years now - and having the time of his life with his twin granddaughters. He can fix just about anything and taught me more in the first 20 years of my life than anyone ever could. Helped me build my first car, a VW bug that I drove for several years. I know that this is not the type of text normally in this forum (Thanks for your leniency, Pastor Bob!) but that first post brought tears to my eyes when I read it. Thanks to all of you for the memories and the wake up call . . .



Keith
 
I'm sure we all look back & wish we could have done some things different. I for one was always so busy working, sometimes holding down two jobs. When I was home seemed like I was always on my only childs case for one thing or another. I once wondered How she turned out so good. But I know how, It was her loving mother that balanced things out. Just glad that at 23 she still loves her daddy. She has given us a wonderful grandson just turned three & they are expecting another baby boy in June. My daughter has to have a c- section because of a car wreck she had a year ago, 2 back surgeries. She wants to schedule the birth on my birthday June 10th. They are comming over tonite I'll see if I can give her a big hug without turnning to tears, Now that you guys got me in this frame of mind. :{ :{
 
HAY

i had to kick my dad out of my garage cause he would take stuff and not return it!! hmmm... . sounds like something i would of done 5 years ago. it's bad when your dad refuses to shut the barn and garage doors!!!:mad: but you know he is my old man so i gotta love him:) he might be a pain in my... . but he's my pop gotta love him... . and he taught me every thing (i'm jack of all master of none) well if u guys haven't figured out i'm probably one of your youngest members (don't kick me off) i'm 16 and just got my license. and love the 1st generation better then other dodges. and i got the trucks straight dodge=rules F... . =sucks but my truck doesn't't work:{ but it's gonna be fixed in a month or so... . after a large head ache and 2500$!!!!:eek:



but i love you guys you are like my father!!

you teach me everything i need to know!!!

and there for me in though times!!!!!
 
Darn !!!! were's my kleenex... . you guys are killin me here...

OK, 5 bonus RWHP all around... :D:D:D



Pastor Bob... . he that believeth in the pump, yet shall he break 300 RWHP...
 
been lucky...

First time I got my fingers really greasy and busted a few knuckles was in 1976, helping my Dad restore an old Jeep. Dad is a retired Air Force Lt Colonel, retired in 1979. My folks have been together since college, and that was in 1956. My two older sisters and I are best friends, and I even flew one of 'em out from Pittsburgh to visit me here in SoCal before I move. Went to Disneyland - we did the same thing 12 years ago when I first entered the Air Force as a 2nd Lt. We had a ball, just like when we were stationed in Redlands CA back in 1978. I grew up an Air Force brat... we all did. We're still together and loving life. I thank God every day for the blessings he has bestowed on my family and I. I call my folks and sis's each and every week. Barb is a practicing MD in pediatrics, Sandy is studying to be a sonogram tech and smoking school (she's 40 now... awesome). And all this time I think about where my life has taken me - From re-enacting WWII (101st Airborne) for 5 years from 8th - 12th grade with my Dad during high school, to my first tour in the Air Force after college in Cheyenne, WY, to my next tour in Colorado Springs, CO, to my current tour here in CA, and in a few weeks back to Colorado Springs for my next 3 years... . and every day I thank God that I have the wonderful love for and from my family that make me able to carry on. I'm 34 now, still single (and lookin'), an Air Force Major 3 years away from my own Lt Col board... . and it takes me back to my first memories working on that old Jeep - a 1952 Willy's M-38 Korean War veteran vehicle... . and Dad knows now, without a doubt, that his son has gathered the skills to keep that old Jeep runnin', and will be there to carry on the traditions and dreams he had, and hopefully I'll have a son or daughter of my own someday - and I'll teach them how to drive a stick on that same old Jeep, 35 mph max, windshield folded forward, and I'll try my absolute hardest to give my kids memories they'll remember. I don't have any idea how I'll do it, and I hope I find a wife that wants what I want, to instill traditions and respect for family that can never be broken, no matter what the hardship..... I didn't know it at the time, but when I lost my Dad's tools and didn't really know what the big deal was all about..... I'm telling ya fellas... if Pittsburgh wasn't 3 hours ahead I'd call my folks right now..... maybe at first light, eh?

I'm not really sure what I just wrote, but I'm looking forward to having a family - I'd like to begin soon, but some things I just can't create on my own - I have a blessed life and a great career. I think working on these old machines keeps me grounded and tied to a simpler time... I guess I'm old-school - maybe that's why I enjoy it so much... ... ... ... ... . but would I ever like to share it with someone. I've never been married - makes me wonder why sometimes. All things in time tho, all in time... ...

- Sam
 
Thank you all for your comments and participation.



Thank you for making me feel like part of the TDR family.



Thanks for giving me the courage to reach out to my son and except him as well as myself for who we are.



Indeed, I hope you learn from whats been written between the lines here. (from every post)



I pray that if you are young that you will become wise.



I pray that if you are old you can find forgiveness and leave behind the bitterness of dreams that did not materialize.



Lastly, I pray that you may never no loneliness, that you will always be surrounded by those you love.



In Jesus name I ask this.

Amen
 
man o man that was touching! makes me want to hug my sons and tell them I love them, got four of 'em an love em lots. I have got to teach them more and spend more time with them. I remember working with my dad when I was a kid, and gettin' hollered at for losin' his tools in the grass when I worked on my bicycle. We spent a lot of time fightin' about who's way was better to fix something. I go and use his garage every once in a while 'cause mine is so full of tools and stuff I can rarely fit a car in it. But we have a really good relationship now. Hope things work out with you and yours!

Proto:)
 
Hey prototech

If you give some of those tools in your garage back to your dad, you'll have room for some of your projects!!!!!!!!:D :D
 
Gosh, TDR is getting gushy. We all have those stories and experiances idf we are lucky. And wait til you get grand children.

Our last two are in college and chomping at the bit to get home. Even got a terrific valentines card from them . Isn't life great? Keep on posting we need a little of the quality on life once in a while. I am amazed at you guys. Hugh
 
Originally posted by EZGZ





I pray that if you are young that you will become wise.



I pray that if you are old you can find forgiveness and leave behind the bitterness of dreams that did not materialize.



Lastly, I pray that you may never no loneliness, that you will always be surrounded by those you love.



In Jesus name I ask this.

Amen



Thank you
 
EZGZ -



Can't let this post go away. Wow. What a tear-jerker. Really hit home. More than once. When this thing's finally done I think I'll have to print it and save it. It's that good.



Can absolutely identify with kids not knowing which end of a screwdrive to use, sons gophering for tools, lost, broke and rusty tools, and stuff not put away 'exactly where you got it'! I really like Billmaine's idea - build a garage for the kids to come over and work on their cars on. He's right - the cars can set there as long as they want - when the kids can get to them they're welcome back!! I can see myself doing that one in a couple years!!



My son's 28 now - and finally has his own garage (along with a great wife and two gorgeous daughters) - and he thinks he's died and gone to Heaven (his own garage is what put him over the edge! Sort of!). Even brags that his (garage!) is bigger than mine!



It wasn't always that way though. Like a lot of guys that were teens in the '90s a hot car to him was one that had 600 watts of amp, and a sound system with a base line that you could use to break concrete! Although I've been a gearhead since, will since ever (I remember my dad showing me how to do a brake job on our '63 Chevy before I even got a driver's license!), the kid - although he showed an ocaisional glimmer of grease in his veins - would really rather do something else than wrench. Like hang out with his buds!



My day job is at Chrysler in finance (yep, I'm a beaner! But not a typical one - but that's a whole other post!) but I kept wrenching - some 'recreational' on the toys, some 'gotta' because maintenance was calling or something broke (there are some things I may take to a shop, but not much!). Just kept the wrenching in front of the kid.



And definitely made him do all his own maintenance on his own cars when he finally got one. Even if I did have to check the odometer and tell him "Hey!! It's time for an oil change!!" In fact, his first real taste of HD wrenching was when he broke the pinion gear on a 6-cylinder Volare (rolling bacwards and dropping it in "D" will do it every time!) I found a used rearend at a wrecking yard and we swapped it out on a cold Saturday afternoon.



About this same time as a family we started four wheeling - probalby 'cuz the kids were older and I had a little more disposable income. This is one sport that all three of my kids just absolutely loved. My son (the subject of this post - is the oldest; the other two are daughters) tried some college, bounced around from job to job, but never really focused on getting real serious about a career. He liked to party - but fortunately not to the point where he messed up his life permanently (you know what I mean!). Got close to getting on track a couple times, but he got a couple of tough breaks along the way too. He just wasn't ready to settle down I think.



Then he found a nice Jeep Cherokee (at another website I'd just say "XJ"!!), and had some work done on it. He started geting into the "Jeep" thing and getting really interested (again?) in trucks and trail rigs. Then he picked up a job actually wrenching for living at a local offroad shop, and has been there ever since (over two years already)! He really likes what he does (wished he could make a little more money at it though - but I think we all wish for that sometimes!) and he's learned a TON.



So both of us are entering another 'season' of our lives! And the best part is knowing it's coming, watching it happen, and just enjoying it!



For me, I'm not the one under the truck anymore saying "Hold this!", "Get that!", or "Move the light over here!" I'm enjoying the heck out of being the gopher, watching the kid work, and wrench & muscle things together! For my son, he's moved into a stage in his life where he's fully taken on the responsibility of a family, and of course, helping the old man every once in a while with a 'guy' project on one of the trucks or Jeeps. At this point sometimes I have the expertise and run the project, sometimes he has the expertise and makes the calls. Really doesn't matter to me, I love it either way!! (In fact, it was my son who did most the work swapping out the springs on my '91 CTD W250 when I brought it home last spring, using the skills and tricks he picked up at his job. I even learned something that weekend!!)



SO - I guess my whole point here is we love 'em, we miss 'em when they're gone, we do our best to bring 'em up right, and if you stay with 'em, love 'em, and pray for 'em, they usually turn out OK - and usually come back around to help and visit!





EZGZ - Thanks for kicking this thread off - great way to reflect, vent, and encourage!





PS: About those girls of mine (26 & 18): Both of them know more about Jeeps, 4x4s and offroading than most guys! I love watching them make guys look stupid! Of course, these are the guys noted above in several posts that don't know which end of a screwdriver to hold and just can't stand having a girl know more than they do about 4x4's and trucks!!!! In fact, the 18 year old actually helped me put a lift on a Jeep Grand Cherokee a couple weekends ago, and I don't mean just gophering!! She did some of the wrenching and wrestled one of the springs back into place!!
 
Your son

I am on the other side of your equation, I am the son. My relationship with my father is just like you wrote about. I am sure that your son is grateful for everything that you have done for him even though he doesn't let you know it. (I know that I am)

I Got my mechanical abilities from him by handing him wrenches when I was younger. I am now in the USAF and have been out of the house for about 9 yrs, I try to get back home as often as possible but money is too tight for plane tickets for me and my family to go home to see them( wife and yr old daughter have been back home w/o me). I personally haven't been back in a year and a half and it will be at least 6 mo. before I can see them. He and mom came up for my Daughter's first Christmas, and I had some parts to put in my truck and He helped me to install them. I had a ball installing those parts! My wife gets so mad at me, spending money on my truck adding this or that, just to give me something to do so I don't lose my mind to boredom. God knows where I would be if it wasn't for my father.
 
Great stuff, and about something MUCH MORE important than any old Darn Truck - Cummins or not!!!!! When you started I thought you were going where a life long friend of mine just went, only he was repenting at his son's grave! We all only have so much time, and we must make the most of it, doing what's really important in life. And quilbilly - IMO - No your daughter wasn't lucky - somebody was looking out for her.
 
Ran across this looking for something else.....



With all the newbies coming in droves daily, I thought I'd bring this back up to the top for them to review. Good stuff; dont let it die. Someday, I'm going to print it out and send it in.



Daniel
 
Originally posted by barbwire

If you give some of those tools in your garage back to your dad, you'll have room for some of your projects!!!!!!!!:D :D



I just need a big ole shop in my back yard, the tools were bought and paid for by me, my dad actually comes and borrows my tools now 'cause he thinks that a garage is for parking cars not housing tools! my wife thinks like that too! any way, I keep telling her someday we'll have a shop with a house attached!

Proto
 
kid's

EZGZ you hit the nail on the head man Wow yes I have a son and am alway's tellin him put the tools back in the box his Idea is lay em on the floor :-{}

well when i was growing up {kinda took a while i hit the 7 ft mark at 22} :D

my dad would always tell my brother n me if you use the tools put em back where ya found em well I sure miss that part of my dad we lost him a few yrs ago to cancer but the one thing I still enjoy to this day is working on car's and trucks with my son sure does bring back memories . As for that old Vw on the side of the garage let me know if you want help finding parts for it besides my Dodge Vw's are my other passion . and as for ramblin Man you can Ramble anytime I love stories like that .



Val
 
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