According to all the Signs...Toyota is going to CAT

[y-knot]

Can it be true... Hasn't anyone else seen or at least noticed the obvious signs that say Toyota is going to CAT for it's rumored Diesel engine????





Has anyone noticed how big and over the top many of the new parts are on the all new Tundra?? It's got a 10" ring gear for peats sake. Now what's a 1/2 ton truck doing with so much over kill? Most 1/2 ton trucks have 8-9" ring gears, not 10" It can also tow 10,600lb, thats almost twice what the Dodge and Ford 1/2 trucks can tow.

Then look at the Tundra's brakes, At 13. 9 and 13. 6" there way bigger then any other 1/2 ton, why? know one would spend all that extra money for nothing. How about the hitch... it's a classV hitch... only thing Dodge, Ford or Chevy has is a class IV hitch even on the 2500/3500 models..... what gives here?

Toyota shows off the new Tundra at a recent auto show, nothing there right? But look behind the truck and what is it that you see?? A open trailer with a CAT skid steer on board. The obvious signs are the huge CAT letters written across the back of the skid steer. Most would overlook it, but you can bet these guys never miss a beat when it comes to marketing, and taking advantage of the situation..... Yell Cat is on there for a reason. . and it isn't to advertise the skid steer.

Now Fast forward to the Toyota debut at Daytona... ... anyone care to guess what's going on here? Take a good hard look at the Toyota cars that run in the Nextel cup... . see anything look again what is written clean across and who is the Major sponsor of the #22 Toyota Camry that Dave Blarney drives?..... Yes you guessed it... . Caterpillar



Yes boys... I'll bet my back teeth that Toyota and Cat will get together and produce a diesel Tundra. They already have most of the pieces in place, all they need now is the engine.

 

[BGlidewell]

Doesn't Toyota have their own diesel. I think I remember they had a diesel truck back in the 80s. I seriously doubt CAT would be interested in this. It's not their target market. But I could be wrong...

 

[Mhannink]

cat has not wanted anything to do w/ the light duty market. if cat would go anywhere its to ford. jmo

 

[nickleinonen]

who knows, they might have a toyota diesel painted yellow between the fenders. . cat already has those perkapillars, so why not some toyopillars [or cateryotas]

maybe some small toyo diesels in cat's small stuff [skid steers, forklifts etc. . ] instead of the perkins... ?

 

[BILLVO]

who knows, they might have a toyota diesel painted yellow between the fenders. . cat already has those perkapillars, so why not some toyopillars [or cateryotas]



maybe some small toyo diesels in cat's small stuff [skid steers, forklifts etc. . ] instead of the perkins... ?

:-laf At work we call them a Percat.

 

[EMD-Run8]

My guess is that Hino will supply any diesel for Toyota.

 

[Moose Truck]

My guess is that Hino will supply any diesel for Toyota.

Overseas, Toyota has Diesel Tacomas all over Europe and Turkey, so Toyota makes Diesels. Also, Toyota had a Turbodiesel here in the States back in the early Eighties. Moose

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Wasn't the Cummins Valvoline NASCAR a Ford? Must be Ford really does own Cummins:-laf

 

[Regcabguy]

Hino power.

My guess is that Hino will supply any diesel for Toyota.

If Hino supplies the grunt for Toyota,it's going to be a winner. My '92 Hino cabover at work as been the most dependable vehicle I've ever driven. The Allison,non-electronic auto likewise has been problem free. 239,000 sub-par maintenance miles. Zero cooldown,with original turbo. It does squeek and rattle and has tin-can doors,but the sucker runs day in and out.

 

[JApol]

I wonder is Nissan is getting an International? Oo.

 

[DWeiler]

If Hino supplies the grunt for Toyota,it's going to be a winner. My '92 Hino cabover at work as been the most dependable vehicle I've ever driven. The Allison,non-electronic auto likewise has been problem free. 239,000 sub-par maintenance miles. Zero cooldown,with original turbo. It does squeek and rattle and has tin-can doors,but the sucker runs day in and out.

A couple of other bread companies that i come across on my bread route run the Hino"s too----they are very reliable but load them down with 10000lbs of bread and you have a heck of a time trying to stay at 60MPH. They are great for city/downtown runs cause of the cab-over---very east to park/manuover etc but i have passed many on the freeway trying to stay with traffic. If Toyota would crank up the power to about 300-350HP they would have a winner---to much power and i spend half my day picking up tipped over stacks of bread in the box from excellarating to quickly from a dead stop:{ :{ :{

 

[Dieselnut59]

I wonder is Nissan is getting an International? Oo.

Toyota and Nissan already have their own diesel engines. Nissan has the "UD" line with engines in the 6+ liter range. Toyota and Nissan both have nice 4+ liter inline sixes in their forklifts. They are not turbocharged but will have to meet TierIII emissions standards in '08, which means common rail fuel systems. I doubt either company will use someone else's engine when they already have their own. I hope they use an existing, time proven inline 6.

 

[MLee]

When watching the segment on the Toyota's start up, and the interview with Waltrip, all the sponsers followed the drivers because of there repatation and popularity on the track and there track records. Not neccessarly because of Toyota and being the new kid on the block. The skid steer was probabley the closest they could get for the max-weight for the truck to show its toughness in this cataory of towing.

This will be interesting to see how it will unfold.

Marv.

 

[Huskerman]

As others have noted, Toyota already makes a diesel. I used to work in the mining industry and I can tell you that over-seas, a lot of the mining companies use Toyota diesels.



Doesn't matter though, at the end of the day it's still a Toyota. It's like a large car with 4 wheel drive. Can you even get a 6-speed manual as an option in those?



Don't get me wrong, any competition is a GOOD thing. In fact, I really wish Honda had mad a REAL truck instead of that abortion known as the Ridgeline.



Huskerman

 

[zstroken]

10" ring gear, I guess you will see them blown out just like a Dana 70"

Or be like my neigbors toyota, loaded it down and bent the frame. Toyota makes a good car, an ok truck, oh by the way didn't they just have two of the largest recalls in history in the last two year?? 500,000 units many requiring engine replacements at $10,000 a unit. So guess what Toyota does, they decide to take money from the hourly people to help pay for their design problem. Sounds like a great company to me. LOL

 

[nickleinonen]

I really wish Honda had mad a REAL truck instead of that abortion known as the Ridgeline.

what, you don't like the minivan with the back cut off???:-laf

[i should be quiet, as i really like the element. if i needed a small car, i would get that]

 

[AKaiser]

I wouldn't hastily count out a Toyota Tundra HD with a CAT motor. It would be a HUGE marketing ploy considering the "All-American" and other reputation-related aspects of the would-be motor supplier.

 

[RustyJC]

This all assumes that Cat would change their corporate mind and decide to play in this market. To date, they've wanted no part of the high volume (relatively speaking), low margin pickup truck business. Although such business may add some margin dollars, it dilutes a lot of important KPIs (key performance indicators) for Wall Street - RONA and EBITDA percentage being two.



Rusty

 

[biggieou]

They have gone "over the top" to sell their trucks to people that have the size does matter mentality.

 

[EMD-Run8]

Hell, all Toyota needs to sell their product is to just make it and show up!