Advice - Brake Discs and Pads

[Wayne M.]

I have an electronic tester. Looks like a lazer pointer with 2 metal tips in one end. Works pretty good.

 

[cerberusiam]

The question then becomes, how much is too much water? As an average DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid absorb 1% by volume of water per year, as much as 3% after 2 years. A general rule is those 2 fluids will lose 25-30% of max boiling capacity in a year. If that is straight increase at 2 years the ability to resist boiling is over 50% degraded. Again, all numbers are an average so YMMV. Not so much a big deal on 400 lb car that may likely never see the temps need to boil the fluid, totally different story on truck toting at 15k of load. For the cost of the fluid is it really worth the risk? Compromise, do it every 18 months and be satisfied that is close enough.

 

[Regcabguy]

One issue now days at least in California is when you recommend a service such as brake flush.that is not recommended by the mfg if it goes to court you loose.California being the litigious state that it is .This makes the service manager refund moneys at the drop of the hat and the tech has his pay taken back.A bad situation for everyone involved,and another reason there are so few good techs anymore

Bob,you've certainly earned your approaching retirement and FCA is losing a very talented tech.
Enjoy buddy!

 

[Wayne M.]

One issue now days at least in California is when you recommend a service such as brake flush.that is not recommended by the mfg if it goes to court you loose.California being the litigious state that it is .This makes the service manager refund moneys at the drop of the hat and the tech has his pay taken back.A bad situation for everyone involved,and another reason there are so few good techs anymore

Why would something like this wind wind up In Court?
If this is a maintenence precaution the customer agrees to because it was explained, made sense AND WAS INDEED COMPLETED AND PROPERLY, I can't see how something as petty as this would wind up in court.
This is like the tire pressure debacle. Even with TPMS, the vehicle owner and repair shop have their due diligence.

 

[Bob4x4]

Bob,you've certainly earned your approaching retirement and FCA is losing a very talented tech.
Enjoy buddy!

Thanks-I have pulled the plug

 

[Bob4x4]

Why would something like this wind wind up In Court?
If this is a maintenence precaution the customer agrees to because it was explained, made sense AND WAS INDEED COMPLETED AND PROPERLY, I can't see how something as petty as this would wind up in court.
This is like the tire pressure debacle. Even with TPMS, the vehicle owner and repair shop have their due diligence.

TheBAR-[h=3]Bureau of Automotive Repair handles customer /auto repair facility complaints and investigates illegal practices before going to the courts.[/h]
We have had customers who agree to service work/repairs then want to reneg when they come to pick up their vehicles.I can't say why weather they planed to do it from the beginning or some one tells them some advice.Some service managers will make them pay some weak managers will not,preferring to take the money from the advisor and tech.Recently a local Cadilac store was hit with significant fines for recommending services at early intervals and or not recommeded by the mfgr.

 

[Wayne M.]

TheBAR-Bureau of Automotive Repair handles customer /auto repair facility complaints and investigates illegal practices before going to the courts.


We have had customers who agree to service work/repairs then want to reneg when they come to pick up their vehicles.I can't say why weather they planed to do it from the beginning or some one tells them some advice.Some service managers will make them pay some weak managers will not,preferring to take the money from the advisor and tech.Recently a local Cadilac store was hit with significant fines for recommending services at early intervals and or not recommeded by the mfgr.

Ive heard of that BAR. sounds like bad juju. Once that pattern gets out out there it's over. Sad.

Good luck on your Retirement. What's your next act?

 

[Bob4x4]

Ive heard of that BAR. sounds like bad juju. Once that pattern gets out out there it's over. Sad.

Good luck on your Retirement. What's your next act?

Thanks
More time with the grandkids first on the agenda

 

[Wayne M.]

Thanks
More time with the grandkids first on the agenda

A man with priorities in order.

 

[WalterJ]

I tried these in 2012 & not disappointed. Very noticeable improvement vs OEM. $40 Premium Semi-Metallic Pads, $272 Premium Dimpled and Slotted Front Rotors & $131 Set of 3 HP SS Brake Lines = $402 Total parts from: Brake Performance, Inc., 866-756-5536 ,Lifetime Warranty.

NOTE: the rotors exhibited warping a year later. (They machine per order in house.) Mic'd the rotors as: Left--1.24, 1.25, 1.15, 1.17, 1.24, 1.23=.100" Lump and the Right--1.29, 1.24, 1.30, 1.25, 1.27, 1.26=.060" Lump. Jimmy @ BP offered to replace rotors under lifetime warranty. Remaining pad material measured .232"/5.89mm Left & .264"/6.70mm Right. Manuf. "Brake Performance" reports new Premium Pads are 12mm thick. Trouble is, one needs to re-install temporary rotors to use vehicle & the $$ for returning bad rotors was too much of a hassle. I just ordered the un-dimpled variety w/ new pads & they cut me some slack on price. Good people, good product.

Still running them today @ 278K miles that was installed in 2013 @ 219K miles; 59K so far.