Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump

[Highfinance97]

Got mine just waiting to install!Oo. #ad

Jim is that regulaters part # 13109??



Why did you go with that one??



i just got mine and ordered part# 13301



I just curious what the differance would be B/C im in the prosses of installing my new fuel system with the A1000







Michael

 

[JFaulkner]

Jim is that regulaters part # 13109??



Why did you go with that one??



i just got mine and ordered part# 13301



I just curious what the differance would be B/C im in the prosses of installing my new fuel system with the A1000







Michael

The #13109 is "Compatible with the Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump" and uses -6an fittings.



The #13301 is "Developed for optimum compatibility with Aeromotive's Street / Strip (SS) Fuel Pump,(not the A1000)this bypass style regulator is capable of handling any fuel pump up to 250 GPH" and only uses 3/8 fittings and in my opinion is no way large enough for the A1000 pump.



I used the #13101 which is the same as the #13109 you mentioned above only it uses -10an fittings instead of -6an (pump uses -10). I have a #13301 laying here that I used on my previous pump but due to the capacity of the A1000 it was not the best option. The -10an fittings on the pump are almost twice as big as the 3/8 ports on the 13301 regulator. I'd think that the pump would hate life if you were to try and choke it down that much. Not to mention that with my current reguator set at the minimum pressure (30psi) it sounds like a fire hose returning fuel to the tank, I can't imagine that little one keeping up set between 3-20psi.

 

[JosephK]

Go with the aeromotive marine version which is made to pump diesel and has to go through durability testing for coast guard continuous run time testing. It also out flows a A1000. Part # below.

A1000 600lbs. per hr. at 13. 5 volts at 45 psi $300. 00

AEI-11108 marine pump 800lbs. per hr. at 13. 5 volts at 45psi $400. 00

AEI-11110 marine pump 900lbs. per hr. at 13. 5 volts at 45psi $600. 00

Must use a bypass regulator with these pumps they will make 100-125 psi. Summit racing sells both. Pm me for any questions.

 

[csutton7]

I want to say mine is the 13301 and it's been on for 6yrs, but I'll have to check tomorrow and make sure--it may have been a different # back then, but that's the one the Aeromotive tech guys said to use----chris

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I did back to back run this weekend on the dyno, one with a boost reference hooked up, one without and the results were the same, exactally the same... ... not even a 1 hp gain, so I guess for the dyno the 100 psi of fuel pressure is not needed. I need to re-check it again for running pressure but it definately like the duel feeds into the pump.



The exact same N2O setup gained another 50 hp!



Jim

 

[csutton7]

my return regulator is the 13301 as I thought or a version that looks exactly like it---chris

 

[Highfinance97]

The #13301 is "Developed for optimum compatibility with Aeromotive's Street / Strip (SS) Fuel Pump,(not the A1000)this bypass style regulator is capable of handling any fuel pump up to 250 GPH" and only uses 3/8 fittings and in my opinion is no way large enough for the A1000 pump.

they say that the 13301 can be set up to 60PSI, thats what i plan on running

so i guess it should be fine



what kind of PSI does the A1000 run by itself???



This will be my setup P/N 11101 PUMP / REGULATOR PN 13301/ FILTER 12301



and have the filter before the A1000





Michael

 

[csutton7]

that's what I've had on my truck since '01---I use a Racor 495 filter also---chris

 

[BTowler]

I checked with Aeromotive and they say the A1000 is not engineered for diesel.



"Although not engineered specifically for diesel fuel, the A1000 is very popular for diesel applications. Based on field reports and limited testing, service live can vary with the amount of pressure required for the system. You can figure roughly 1,000 run hours would be a safe expectation, or more.



Hope this helps, good luck and thanks for choosing Aeromotive!"





Plus 1000 run hours, that's a little low.

 

[Highfinance97]

that's what I've had on my truck since '01---I use a Racor 495 filter also---chris

6 years, I guess it will be fine LOL



Michael

 

[csutton7]

that's the same info I got from them back in '01 and from every other pump manufacturer out there--that's because they never tried it with diesel--now they have specific diesel pumps, but I'm not sure what is different on them besides the color--probably something minor if the truth were to be told, but maybe not----the A1000 and all the components I have have worked great--



concerning the pre-filter I left mine untouched for 2 yrs and then it clogged--I was doing a test to see how long things could go--so change that filter at least every year and keep a spare, cuz when it clogs it's not like you will have time to drive home and change it---



I saw 75psi when I first put my pump on ---thru an -08AN line--so it can put some pressure out, but since I've got mine adjusted to 19psi and never played with more I have no info to add..... chris

 

[csutton7]

two notes on the 6 yrs---just in case someone missed it---



the first pump I changed out cuz I thought it was bad, but it was a loose wire I mis diagnosed--it was on the truck for 3. 5 yrs at least and the newest one has been on since--the original one was a used pump at that out of a boat--it is now my spare



I'm 100% gravity fed through the bottom of the tank--



ok 3 notes



use a 30amp relay to power the pump--



the last two are what I believe to be major keys to my success with the A1000 pump----chris

 

[Signal73]

Jim is that regulaters part # 13109??



Why did you go with that one??



i just got mine and ordered part# 13301



I just curious what the differance would be B/C im in the prosses of installing my new fuel system with the A1000







Michael

Just for the fact it has -6an fittings to make it easy to work wth the rest of the return hardware. the 13101 may have a -10an inlet, but the return is a -6an anyways. The Regulated return will be on the return side for me, I dont plan on referencing boost etc, and im glad to see Fulmer's results make it not worth it anyways. I plan on starting off around 35psi and see how that goes. seems some of the big dogs are running up to 50 without p-pump failure.

I emailed aeromotive with concers about the 1000 with diesel fuel and I got the impression while they do have one marine rated, it wouldnt be too detrimental to the regular 1000's life to run it with #2...





Jim

 

[Signal73]

Chris, (or anyone else) real quick, what wire did you tap into to trigger the relay for the pump on startup?

 

[csutton7]

the oem pump wire---chris

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Jim, remember that I run my stock system under normal use at 35 psi, then when I need it turn the aux system on and run it close to if not at 50 psi, I do believe that a high HP truck needs this, it's just the 100 psi I was running up to on the dyno did nothing.



Seeing that you are going to run the A1000 as only pump you could run your boost reference to a valet switch (switch to a electric solenoid) and use it that way so when you wanted extra fuel pressure it was there. I don't recomend running really high pressure all the time, it eats away at the pump housing internally.



Jim

 

[Signal73]

:{ Chris I guess I threw ya off because this is in the 24 valve forum but I have a 12 valve, so no pump wire to tap into I was thinking one of the wires leading to the fuel shutoff solenoid?



Jim, What do you think of 35psi all the time? I dont see myself as a really high HP guy. Havent been on a dyno since the new pump, but will be seeing Mr Dunbar in NH on the 26th of May. When it comes to fuel pressure how do you like to pick a number?

thank you.

 

[csutton7]

Signal 73--yep you got me not paying attn----I'd wire it into one of the ingnition wires that comes on and stays on with the key--but I can't tell you which wire that would be--cuz I'm 12v stoopid----chris

 

[Highfinance97]

filter Placement

What suggestion do you have for filter placement??



I plan on putting the filter between the tank and the A1000, but others tell me put it after the A1000 incase the A1000 takes a crap it wont ruin the 7100



I also saw somewhere that they put a filter element in the tank but what about restriction, what filter would be good



The filter im running is the 12301 its a hi flow 10 micron and Flows 2,000 lb/hr with a pressure drop of less than 1 PSI (from the aeromotive site)





Michael

 

[Signal73]

FYI im running that filter (but the 100 mic variety) before the pump, then a fleetguard FS 1000 off that filterhead you saw in my pic after the pump. I didnt want to deal with the in tank setup, in case it got clogged.