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Vaughn MacKenzie

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Since I have gotten a flood of emails about the fuel line kits I put together, I thought it would be easier to post the details instead of responding to all the inquiries individually (but feel free to email me if you like or post questions on this thread).

The kit replaces the stock fuel lines from where the steel line from the tank ends (about where the driver's feet are) on through to the injection pump. The kit hoses are 3/8" inside diameter, which gives you 42% more cross-sectional area than the stock 1/4" ID tubing. This reduces resistance to fuel flow that the lift pump has to work against. After installing the kit, I felt a small increase in power above 2700rpm at full throttle. You may notice a small improvement in mileage as well. The main benefit is improved cooling and lubrication, and maybe take some of the burden off the frail lift pump.

There are 3 hoses in this kit:
First hose runs from the tank line to the lift pump.
Second hose goes between the lift pump and fuel filter canister.
Third line goes between the filter canister and injection pump.
Also there are 5 adapter fittings that screw in place of the banjo bolts, and the Aeroquip hoses screw onto these. Kit includes a trim ring to fit over the hose end that slides onto the tank line. Installation instructions are included and shouldn't take more than 1 to 1. 5 hours to install. The 2000 up trucks it is easier to install the kit by removing the filter canister so it is a bit more of a pain.

The kit is for 24-Valve trucks only. One kit for the '98. 5 and '99 trucks and cost $170, and another kit for '00-current trucks which is $180. Ground shipping is $8.

Since I do not keep a lot of parts on hand I usually wait for 2-3 requests before I order parts. Sometimes it takes 2-3 weeks for me to get a kit sent out once you request one, because I have to wait for parts to arrive, then put the kit together (which takes some time!).

The guys with '985. -'99 trucks are the lucky ones--by installing this kit the test ports will not be lost. Different story for the 2000-up guys. Since the test ports are incorporated in the banjo bolts that are replaced, test ports are lost (see photos below). On my truck, I solved this by reinstalling my stock line between the filter canister and injection pump, and drilled out the holes in the banjo bolts. With the stock line back in place, there was still a 1. 5-2. 0 psi improvement in fuel pressure at the injection pump.

In addition I am looking to add more options to the 2 kits I already put together in the near future:

1) Kit for 2000-2001 trucks retaining a test port (most likely will be the same as what I set up on my truck but I am looking to improve on that).
2) Lower cost versions for 24V trucks for owners more interested in funtion versus appearance.
3) Kit to relocate lift pump back to fuel tank for more effective operation (pending research, hope to trial-test this on my truck soon, basically what HVAC is doing these days). This is based on the ability of pump to push fuel much better than pulling it.

Here are some photos I took when installing a kit on my 2001.

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Vaughn

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"Blue Thunder" & NW BOMBers
'01 2500 QC Shortbed 2wd, Patriot Blue over Driftwood, HO 24v Cummins & 6-speed, 3. 54LSD, Cab & Fog lamps, Camper & Tow Pkg.
BOMBings: RV injectors, PS Boost module, Amsoil air filter, straightpiped exh. , SS fuel lines, debadged body, AutoMeter Sport Comp gauges, Amber turn signals, 55w halogen rev. lights.

[This message has been edited by Vaughn MacKenzie (edited 11-17-2000). ]
 
I can atest to the quality of Vaughn's lines. I have installed several sets of these for NW BOMBers, and everyone has been happy. I can also say I was amazed at the tiny hole in the banjo bolts that are supplied from the factory!

I can not, however, atest to his computer skills... the pics did not work for me, and neither did the link he provided!
(hehehe... I owed you one from the edit, edit, edit post!)

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Rob Hanson
1999 "Big Red", 3500 SLT QC 4X4 6 spd, 4. 10 LSD, Braided SS fuel lines, Mag-Hytec Rear Cover, Cummins E-Brake, Blue Box, Bosch Injectors, All-steel Cowl Induction Hood, Rhino, Rosewood Kit, Scotty System, SportComp Gauges, TorkLift SuperHitch, Tekonsha Brake Controller, Rear Flood lights, Cobra CB, DeeZee Running Boards, BD 2WD Low kit, Air Lift bags and a Geno's "I tromped a Ford" decal. Member of BOMB! (WW NW Chapter)

MyPics.com (pics updated 10/14/00)

I'd rather be... .
Cummin than Strokin.
 
Well Rob, all I can say is, I'm a little better at controlling diesel molecules with fuel lines than I am with electrons in cyberspace #ad
 
Vaughn, is this kit for BOMBED trucks or will us stockers benefit from it also?

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2001 2500HD 4x4 quad cab, auto, 3. 54, Dark Garnet Red Pearl Coat
Stock... . until paid off!
 
Vaughn,

Have you considered coming up with a kit for the 12v engines?

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1996 Dodge 2500 4X4 SC, SLT, Cummins 12V, 5-spd. , JRE 4" exhaust (my kitty ran away into the woods and the muffler fell off!), TST 280 HP/685 Ft-Lb Uprate Kit, AFC Spring Kit, Horton Fan Clutch, Jacobs/Ram Exhaust Brake, MagHytec Differential Cover, Prime-Loc, Rancho RS9000 Shocks, Combo Gauge, K&N Air Filter, Brite-Box, Geno's finger-touch oil pan drain plug, no turbo silencer ring, full-time fog lights.
 
I have a set of Vaughn's Aeroquip fuel hoses on my Ram. Love 'em! Thanks again Vaughn. #ad


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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4 Sport, Glasstite Vision II, 285 BFG A/Ts on M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares & tow hooks, NW Custom s/s-rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover & trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Reese Titan V hitch, VDO Vision gauges, Dynamat, '00 Sport grille and headlights/PIAA Super White bulbs, PIAA Dual Sport 900 aux. lights, BD exh. brake and TorqLoc, Amsoil Dual Remote Bypass, Optima Yellow Tops, Bosch 275s, 10 level BD/TST X Power/PM3 (not installed yet), Aeroquip AQP braided s/s fuel hoses, Banks High Ram intake manifold (not installed yet... ya I know, I'll have to eat my words) and 14 cm2 turbine housing/Big Head wastegate actuator, ATS 3-piece exh. man. , Banks 4" dia. s/s exh. sys. , BD V10/Cummins hybrid TC & valve body, BD trans. front pump & PressureLoc, Air Bulldog induction hood (with NACA ducts), plus MANY other trick modifications

Recycle Bin: Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit (JUNK!), VA CPC (upgraded to 10 level PM3), '00 Dodge/Cummins valve cover (changed my mind... stay tuned)
 
You're welcome, John. And to think you put them on to increase fuel flow, with that dang Prime Loc smack dab in the middle! #ad
Life is full of ironies!
(just got your envelope, thanks, just behind Issue 30 in my mailbox. Nice truck on the cover, huh?)

Paul, I think anything to help the lift pump, and most of all the injection pump, is a worthy benefit. I installed mine when my truck was totally stock except for K&N air filter and straightpiped exhaust. It is a good way to fortify your fuel supply to base BOMBing on.

radixr, I am unfamiliar with the 12-valve setup. I think the benefits would be limited to maybe a slight power increase for BOMBed trucks and slight MPG increase. The 12V pump doesn't rely on fuel for cooling & lube, plus I think there is no bypass (all fuel fed to pump is used (?) ) and if that were the case, fuel flow demand would be considerably less and the stock lines are probably plenty adequate. Those are the 2 areas the VP44 needs help with.

Vaughn

PS Willyslover I got your email, I will have your shorty hose ready for you soon--I haven't forgotten about you, just not the quickest dude the planet has ever seen #ad


[This message has been edited by Vaughn MacKenzie (edited 11-18-2000). ]
 
Vaughn, the kit sounds great. Let us know how you are doing on options #1 and 2. I will be interested in purchasing a kit in the spring.

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2001 2500HD 4x4 quad cab, auto, 3. 54, Dark Garnet Red Pearl Coat
Stock... . until paid off!
 
Vaughn, just got my TDR issue 30 today too! You're right. . awesome Ram on the cover! #ad
Dave, ya got me droolin' again.

[This message has been edited by John (edited 11-19-2000). ]
 
Hi Vaughn. New TDR memeber here. If you make a kit for us 12 valvers,I would be interested in getting one from you.
vc

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'97 Ram,BD fuel plate,Prime-Loc.
 
Vaughn, I like your set up but I need a permanent fuel pressure tap. I noticed that Earls hoses (same type as Aeroquip) in the Summit catalog offer a fuel pressure gauge adapter for their hoses. Its basically a hexagon block with AN fittings on each end and a pipe thread hole in the center for a gauge tap. I'm curious if you think this could be plumbed into your kit.
 
Dune Racer, I have ordered a new fitting that I think will do the trick--an Aeroqip -6AN banjo fitting to go on the end of the last hose. I am thinking this fitting combined with the original banjo/schrader valve bolt properly drilled out is the answer. I think this will not be too restrictive and it is only one banjo bolt at the end of the line. I will try it on my truck and test pressures, and if all looks good, I'll make up the 2000-up kits that way from now on for those who want them that way. Reading the pressures will be an accurate indicator of what the VP44 is actually getting, since you are seeing the pressure after it passes through the holes in the banjo bolt.

Vaughn
 
Vaughn, your new fitting sounds like it will retain the stock feature of reading fuel pressure with a screw on pressure gauge. The problem I have is that my SPA gauge sensor needs a pipe thread hole to be screwed into. I don't trust leaving a hose screwed into the schrader valve as a permenant tap for my gauge so I'm still stuck finding a way to do this. Thanks for the reply- Zach
 
Dune Racer, TDR member Brandon and I were talking about the difficulty with configuring this setup. We talked about incorporating a Tee at the injection pump so no banjo bolt or schrader valve would be used at all.

Last night I got a huge mondo Aeroquip catalog from the local Aeroquip vendor. I have looked through it some already but unfortunately no Tee seems to exists to set this up practically. The ideal Tee would have 12x1. 5mm thread on one leg, -6AN thread on the second leg, and -4AN on the third. No Tee comes close to that, Aeroquip makes no Tee with metric threads period. And it looks like there are no Tees with female -6AN threads, the only other option. Maybe someone else would make the Tee I need, but I think Aeroquip has all the standard stuff covered.

If I do end up setting this up like I described in my last post, then you'd only need a 1/4"NPT to -4AN adapter, Aeroquip makes these. Is your adapter 1/4" or 1/8" NPT? Male of Female? I think this is the simplest, fewest-fitting setup possible with the parts available.

Vaughn
 
Why don,t you try a tee fitting with -6 on two end,s and -4 on the other. Install it between the filter housing and the injection pump. Or use a parker fitting for the injection pump(12mm/1. 5mm to 1/4 npt)Then install a tee with one -6 and one -4 fittings. The parker fittings are steel and can be drilled to a larger port size.


hope this helps.
 
I will need to address this issue on the hyper Ram soon. I plan to install a new monster spin on filter near the pump and eliminate the oem filter housing. This means I will be able to run -8AN line all the way to the injection pump. I plan to move my transducer from the filter housing to the
VP44. I will need a tee fitting to install at the VP44 to provide a place for the transducer to install. Then I can install my Berkeley pool pump on the fuel system #ad
More fuel = more betta! #ad
 
It seems that everyone has the same goal of somehow getting an npt fitting somewhere in the fuel line. Vaughn, the tee I referred to was not made by Aeroquip it was an Earls fitting in the Summit racing catalog but I don't know if different brands use compatable fitting angles or not. If you find a set up that works please post a picture, the others make it very helpful to see the configuration.
 
Sportbike, Dune Racer, HVAC, I will "keep on lookin" until I find a satisfactory solution. It most likely will necessitate a fitting other than Aeroquip brand, something quality that will fill the bill. The biggest question I have: what fitting does everyone want for the test ports? Stock -4AN? -6AN? 1/4" or 1/8" NPT? Male or Female? #ad


HVAC, I like your thought of the monster filter but that won't work for the cold climates dwellers. The OEM canisters have integrated heaters. I wonder if any heated spinon filter bulkheads exist?

Last night I noticed in a Cummins ISB engine brochure the pictured engines had different fuel filter canisters, a spinon-looking one no less. Maybe I'll scan and post.

Vaughn
 
lets keep this one at the top. V, I hope you are getting the parts for mine, MR T if you are reading this we must upgrade i feel stock press is too low. i monitored my press this weekend and it sucked, 01 eth. Let me know the status of mine, I think a local shop I know will be willing to mass produce these... ... ... .....

but they want a prototype, so vaughn if you have to make too many i believe i have a source if you so desire not too make tooo many

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