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After The Oil Runs Out - Then What?

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Originally posted by klenger

Are there too many people on the planet, or just too many people for our current level of natural resource consumption?



Neither. "Overpopulation" is a localized phenomenon related to overall wealth, production capabilities and political stability. Some of the places with the highest per capita wealth are also some of the most densely populated areas on earth, i. e Tokyo and New York. Other places are sparsely populated but people still die from hunger and disease, i. e. Rwanda or the Sudan. If the big wet blanket known as government restrictions were removed from the energy industry we'd be swimming in oil for the next 200 years.
 
One of them biodiesel stories

After the french fries run out - then what?



For the record, I'm not an environmentalist; I believe in using the fuel that provides the biggest bang for the buck, and believe anything less is ultimately worse for the environment than burning the fuel. So it caught my attention when I read that biodiesel produces more smog than a regular diesel. It also an interesting story, but I'd hate to be chased by Federales or banditos in Central America and have to depend on biodiesel for my escape...



http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/9722757p-10645797c.html

Oakland family drives to Argentina on recycled vegetable oil

By TERENCE CHEA, Associated Press Writer

Last Updated 3:52 am PDT Monday, June 21, 2004

BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) - Mali Blotta and David Modersbach were unfazed by rising gas prices when they drove 11,000 miles during a recent family road trip from California to Argentina.



Their 24-year-old station wagon runs on much cheaper fuel: recycled vegetable oil.



Hitting the road for five months, the couple and their 4-year-old son toured 11 countries in a Volkswagen powered by waste grease they collected from restaurants and fried-food factories along the way.



"We're promoting an alternative to the oil economy," Modersbach said. "The trip wasn't just about the voyage. It was about spreading information about vegetable-based fuel. "



The Oakland environmentalists are part of a movement promoting biodiesel - a cleaner burning fuel derived from renewable resources such as vegetables - at a time when rising oil prices, the conflict in Iraq and global-warming worries are boosting interest in alternative fuels.



Cities across the country are adopting programs to run municipal trucks and buses on biodiesel. Most cities use a hybrid fuel comprised of 20 percent biodiesel and 80 percent regular diesel, and a few cities, like Berkeley, have switched to 100 percent biodiesel. All diesel vehicles can run on biodiesel sold commercially.



But biodiesel purists are looking for fuel among the refuse of fast-food restaurants, cafeterias and potato chip factories. Waste grease is made up of the same raw material as commercial biodiesel, but diesel engines must be modified to run on veggie oil.



Environmentalists give biodiesel mixed reviews. While biodiesel produces fewer greenhouse gases than gasoline, it releases more smog-forming pollutants, said Diane Bailey, a diesel expert at the Natural Resources Defense Council.



Bailey supports the use of 100 percent biodiesel for people who already drive diesel vehicles, but she doesn't see vegetable oil as a long-term solution to cleaning the air, despite the couple's successful road trip.



"My hat's off to them, but I don't think the average American can pull that off," Bailey said. "There's a limited amount of waste grease out there. "



Blotta, 40, and Modersbach, 38, believe used veggie oil shouldn't go to waste.



Last year, they paid $400 for a silver 1980 Volkswagen Dasher with a 300,000-mile history and converted its diesel engine to run on waste grease by adding a second fuel tank and a set of tubes and filters. They start the station wagon with regular diesel, then switch to vegetable oil once it's heated and thinned out.



After setting off from Oakland in early November, the family didn't have trouble finding fuel at restaurants in Nevada, Utah and Arizona, but it wasn't so easy once they left the country.



"It was a constant struggle," Modersbach said. "Everyday we had to ask people. We'd buy a bag of chips and go to the address on the bag. We'd go to dozens of restaurants, and they wouldn't have any spare oil. "



Once they found the vegetable oil, they filtered the "french fries, chicken skins, chips, fish scales" and other food particles before filling up their tank and firing up the engine. "You don't notice any difference until it smells like french fries or popcorn," Modersbach said.



On their way to Rosario, Argentina, they passed through Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia - all countries affected by the politics of petroleum, they said.



"Everywhere we noticed everyone was conscious of the connection between the petroleum business and contamination and the taking of lands from indigenous people and wars," said Blotta, a native of Argentina.



As they stopped in towns and cities in search of fuel, they taught people how to run their diesel engines on biodiesel and vegetable oil-based fuels. The family returned to California in April, but plans to return to Argentina later this summer to continue promoting biodiesel.



"This planet needs help," Blotta said. "We need alternatives to the use of pollutants as fuel. "
 
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