I am thinking of adding a better exhaust then the factory set up. not sure what to get but my big issue is when i called the local dealer they say to do nothing to the truck till warrenty is out... ... ..... ANYTHING... ... ... then i call another dealer, and they say if a part fails and it was caused by an added part then it will not be coverd, other then that, no big deal to to them. they dont see how a bad injector could be caused by an exhaust for example. anyone have any issues or dealing with aftermarket exhuast and warrenty clames?
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A turbo back system will eliminate the cat,modifying the emmisions system that is an easy way to get your warranty restricted.
Bob
good point bob4x4. but that "SHOULD" only void emissions problems, not like say, a trans output shaft seal leak... ... . and is that muffler delete really worth getting over a full system? i will not be BOMBING this truck. so will a full exhaust be nessesary?? i would like to see quicker spooling and better MPG,
Like I suggested earlier a good high flow muffler upgrade and upgraded air intake/air filter is probably all that you need. Combined it will slightly lower EGTs and slightly improve turbo spool, especially under load. Just my . 02.
Your truck already has a 4" exhaust system. It is already good for 500hp. Why anybody spends money on a system, or even a different muffler is beyond my comprehension. Maybe they just like to spend money
I wouldn't bother with a cold air intake either, another waste of money. You can mod the airbox yourself for cheap and have the same results, unless you plan to exceed 500 hp again.
It is unlikely that you will get much if any performance from either of those mods. To get more power, you need more fuel. If you want better mpg, keep it under 2000 rpm on the highway. If you are not adding a power box of some sort, the above mods are just for fun, they won't get you anything but some extra noise.
I wouldn't bother with a cold air intake either, another waste of money. You can mod the airbox yourself for cheap and have the same results, unless you plan to exceed 500 hp again. It is unlikely that you will get much if any performance from either of those mods. To get more power, you need more fuel. If you want better mpg, keep it under 2000 rpm on the highway. If you are not adding a power box of some sort, the above mods are just for fun, they won't get you anything but some extra noise.
Your truck already has a 4" exhaust system. It is already good for 500hp. Why anybody spends money on a system, or even a different muffler is beyond my comprehension. Maybe they just like to spend money
It is unlikely that you will get much if any performance from either of those mods. To get more power, you need more fuel. If you want better mpg, keep it under 2000 rpm on the highway. If you are not adding a power box of some sort, the above mods are just for fun, they won't get you anything but some extra noise.
You are over simplifing things... ..... there are small gains to be had by exhaust and intake air flow improvements. Power and egt reduction that will be noticible towing. Worth the money... ... ... it depends on the end users pocket
Bob
ya, all i am planing on doing to this truck is a step above stock, no new trubos, fuel pumps etc... . just the normal tinkering. got more guages on the way, got the diff covers, just need a trans pan and i should be good to go! i just like to get the 411 from the guys that have exhaust work done. i know cats are restrictive, would not mind cuttin it out. but we shall see. i do know i dont need 5 inch exhaust. that for the heavy mod boys!
You already have a "good" exhaust system, other than a somewhat restrictive muffler. Why not just replace the muffler with a straight-through 4" muffler. It will be much cheaper than buying an entirely new system.
On my '03, I replaced my muffler with a 4" Magnaflow & it worked great. On the end of the tail pipe, I cut the very end of the pipe (angle cut tip) off, bought a 5" chrome turndown & a 4" to 5" reducer & welded it on the tail pipe. I know some folks don't like turndowns but, I do & they have a practicle purpose, also. They keep the exhaust soot from concentrating on your trailer & rear bumper & fender.
With the money you save by 'piecing' an exhaust system together, you could buy a Smarty Jr. If you like your truck 'stock', you will LOVE it with the Smarty Jr. It really wakes up the truck & is undetectable by the dealership. You won't be the "King" of the dragstrip with the Jr. but, the fun factor is definately there.
This is what I did & have been very happy with the results. Hope this helps.
Joe F. (Buffalo)
On my '03, I replaced my muffler with a 4" Magnaflow & it worked great. On the end of the tail pipe, I cut the very end of the pipe (angle cut tip) off, bought a 5" chrome turndown & a 4" to 5" reducer & welded it on the tail pipe. I know some folks don't like turndowns but, I do & they have a practicle purpose, also. They keep the exhaust soot from concentrating on your trailer & rear bumper & fender.
With the money you save by 'piecing' an exhaust system together, you could buy a Smarty Jr. If you like your truck 'stock', you will LOVE it with the Smarty Jr. It really wakes up the truck & is undetectable by the dealership. You won't be the "King" of the dragstrip with the Jr. but, the fun factor is definately there.
This is what I did & have been very happy with the results. Hope this helps.
Joe F. (Buffalo)
The diesel Cats are not very restrictive... ... ... . I have only seen about 4-5 hp loss due to cat,I can get that back easily elswhere and still look emmisions legal
Bob
Ducman;
You ask if installing an cat-back exhaust will void your warranty. The short answer is "no - but".
First off - have you read the owners manual and the warranty section yet?
As you asked the original question - my assumption is you have not - nor has anyone else here.
Manufacturers’ limited warranties are pretty specific. They will cover parts failures that are not the result of owner abuse, lack of maintenance, or modifications. This is an industry standard, no matter which manufacturer it is. The OEM has no interest in covering "our" mistakes, nor should they. If you decide to modify your truck - which is your right, don't expect the manufacturer to cover a failure that your modification caused.
That said - cat back exhaust systems by themselves will not produce "consequential" damage - meaning, the exhaust system should not cause an engine failure. Now, if it is a poorly made system and it breaks, and this breakage causes something else to fail, they you are on your own to fix the consequential damage.
The dealers are the primary determiners of warranty coverage. If there is a grey area, they can call their factory service representative to sell them your story. In some cases, the factory rep will come to the party and provide assistance.
If the dealer tells you “not going to happen” before you have done anything, they have most likely just recently been hit with a warranty audit and were probably charged back a large amount of money for warranty work that the factory refuses to cover for various reasons (such as non-OE parts installed on vehicle that may have contributed to the failure).
Now, assume you have installed your favorite cat back exhaust system and your windshield wiper motor fails. Is this failure covered by your limited new car warranty. Yes, because it has nothing to do with the exhaust system.
Of course, own thing you should be looking at with an exhaust system is one that has been properly engineered to not only fit your truck but also to compliment your engine’s breathing characteristic. Here is the easy answer – there is only one company that has done this engineering and you will not have any droning in the cabin, lowered EGT’s and quicker turbo spool up. It is also made from 304 stainless steel, so it will outlast your truck. Of course this is not a free or even “cheap” system, but it is THE best you can get.
Corsa Performance. I installed one on my truck back in November, and it is perfect.
Good luck.
You ask if installing an cat-back exhaust will void your warranty. The short answer is "no - but".
First off - have you read the owners manual and the warranty section yet?
As you asked the original question - my assumption is you have not - nor has anyone else here.
Manufacturers’ limited warranties are pretty specific. They will cover parts failures that are not the result of owner abuse, lack of maintenance, or modifications. This is an industry standard, no matter which manufacturer it is. The OEM has no interest in covering "our" mistakes, nor should they. If you decide to modify your truck - which is your right, don't expect the manufacturer to cover a failure that your modification caused.
That said - cat back exhaust systems by themselves will not produce "consequential" damage - meaning, the exhaust system should not cause an engine failure. Now, if it is a poorly made system and it breaks, and this breakage causes something else to fail, they you are on your own to fix the consequential damage.
The dealers are the primary determiners of warranty coverage. If there is a grey area, they can call their factory service representative to sell them your story. In some cases, the factory rep will come to the party and provide assistance.
If the dealer tells you “not going to happen” before you have done anything, they have most likely just recently been hit with a warranty audit and were probably charged back a large amount of money for warranty work that the factory refuses to cover for various reasons (such as non-OE parts installed on vehicle that may have contributed to the failure).
Now, assume you have installed your favorite cat back exhaust system and your windshield wiper motor fails. Is this failure covered by your limited new car warranty. Yes, because it has nothing to do with the exhaust system.
Of course, own thing you should be looking at with an exhaust system is one that has been properly engineered to not only fit your truck but also to compliment your engine’s breathing characteristic. Here is the easy answer – there is only one company that has done this engineering and you will not have any droning in the cabin, lowered EGT’s and quicker turbo spool up. It is also made from 304 stainless steel, so it will outlast your truck. Of course this is not a free or even “cheap” system, but it is THE best you can get.
Corsa Performance. I installed one on my truck back in November, and it is perfect.
Good luck.
Well i use to be a service wrighter for a jeep dealer so i know how the warrenty thing works, but i have been getting confliciting storys from many dodge dealer on ANY add ons. i total get that if the clips the hold the stock seat fabric break, they are not going to void it because i have a chip. i just wanted some insight from people that have done it before. from what i hear from dealers is the DC is crackin down on mods. and if i bust my turbo mount by building a cast iron down pipe i know they wont cover that!Oo. :-la
I recently put a 5" cat back & PSM air intake on my 06 I wanted the sound more than any thing & when the wife said its not to loud, She hated my 95 with 4 inch turbo back i knew i had done the right thing as far as warranty we will see i do most of my own repairs because my local dealers suck so if it is a engine i have to see them but otherwise i have 2 diesel mechanics in the family & i am some what handy. the improvement in throttle response was very noticeable happy with it that way But have recently added a smarty JR. The exhaust is a diamond eye no chrome tip. (i love seeing chevys with a 4 to 6 inch tip Possers) any way i live in California so i went with aluminized 250$ approx & fit was fine & 1 hour in the driveway do what is best for you but i am very happy with this setup
Well i use to be a service wrighter for a jeep dealer so i know how the warrenty thing works, but i have been getting confliciting storys from many dodge dealer on ANY add ons. i total get that if the clips the hold the stock seat fabric break, they are not going to void it because i have a chip. i just wanted some insight from people that have done it before. from what i hear from dealers is the DC is crackin down on mods. and if i bust my turbo mount by building a cast iron down pipe i know they wont cover that!Oo. :-la
The edge is enough to kick you out of the loop
Bob
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