Air supply

[Guest00]

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[This message has been edited by JNutter (edited 03-04-2001). ]

 

[Randy J]

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2000 VW Jetta TDI

 

[illflem]

Tim,I wouldn't use nurf bars nor a pipe type bumper for an air tank. They're just an accident waiting to happen. If you are hit from the side or worse yet if someone is stepping up on the bars when they decide to crack you can have quite an explosion. Buy a used air tank from a truck junk yard and install it under the bed.

 

[PUMPERDUDE]

I like the idea of unused space. Kind of reminds me of that explosive tank armor though.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Well everything is allmost here (waiting to get my nerf bars) The 9000 series Hadley 12 volt 150 psi compressor came with a one gallon primary air tank and a set of horns. Here is my thought-- Sealing off the ends of the nerf bars and fitting 1/4 inch air fittings in each should net me an ad'tl 5 gallons of air. A simple common 4 way air chuch (home depot) can supply air (to be fed from the output on the primary tank) and running a line to be installed in the rear (statndard shop fitting) somewhere by the hitch. Now my question is do I plumb this whole thing in series (one bar to the next then tank) or paralell Four way feeds everything at once? ready to rip.

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[This message has been edited by ToolManTimTaylor1 (edited 03-04-2001). ]

 

[jwgary]

Nerf bar=accident! I think it is against the law to use anything other than an ASME certified pressure vessel for that purpose. I think the best thing to use is one of those "hot dog" tanks they use on the little portable units. They can be bought seperately from Grainger and you can just bolt it inside the frame rail. That's what I am planning to do when I eventually get around to putting in my on board air system. Also, can you tell a little about that 9000 series Hadley compressor. I am still trying to decide what compressor I am going to use that will allow me to use an impact wrench for short periods to change a tire.

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[ToolManTimTaylor]

Good point by all however I have seen at the jeep jamboree guys using space not occupied Ie bumpers nerf bars and what not a crack will bleed air at a rapid rate... not explosively ( I would think) but after making my post I have a ten gallon tank (new) i am not using that will fit perfectly in my tool box (deep six garbage in the box)and this is my key air storage. A sikorsky metalergist lives next door and I asked him about the tensile strength of 1/4 inch steel nerf bars and he brought up a good point about how these bars are designed with a low content of alloy to promote denting and bending due to nhstc standards for "giving" properties when involved in a crash. This gives them a less likely chance to "explode" being the metal has a certain amount of give so it won't shatter or be extreemly rigid. Now the thought wheels are turning. I came up with the idea after using two 15 gallon tanks in conjunction with my 60 gallon compressor at the shop. when i plumbed them in each had its own regulator so they drain in succession giving me added storage between compressor cycles. I am pooling information from my brotheren here to finalize plans and come up with a way to help all out there who have ever needed to make noise or air up a pluged flat. thanks and any more info welcome.

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Keeping the rubber side down 'n' shiny side up Will Bring a smile at the end of each day (hopefully)

 

[Kyle]

If you plumbed all your "tanks" in parallel, you could put a valve going to each one. That way, if you sprung a leak you could take one tank offline without giving up the rest of your storage capacity.

Capacity is capacity. It doesn't matter if the tanks are inline or parallel. That is assuming the compressor keeps your tanks at a pressure higher than your tool needs.

Besides if you've got "tanks" on all sides, you could plug your hose in where it's most convenient and not have to circle your truck with a hose.

Just my thoughts.

 

[jponder]

Tim> Thats a good idea what is max pressure? I would geuss less that 150 PSI. Thats nothing. We overpump tanks all the time to 4K. at 150 psi man you could use the lightest gauge stuff around. Your nerf might split and leak air but it wouldnt grenade like an Al 80 scuba tank at 3500 psi. That is a real good idea. Do it man;

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[ToolManTimTaylor]

kyle good point storage is ... well storage and I found inline check valves for such a setup. also from my air setup at the shop i have a slew of couplings that I changed over to a more standard fitting so i can use those in three convienient locations two on the sides and one in the rear in the hitch lighting connector box #ad
Thanx big time. . TM

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Y2K+1 3500 4X4 Quad Cab Powerpacked , Jakit's Front End Leveling Kit with 255/85R16 BFG M/T's Custom Rhino (as seen on website under tool man's truck feature) http://www.rhinoliningsnlc.com DeeZee Goodies, arb air systems 150 psi comp and air storage.
Keeping the rubber side down 'n' shiny side up Will Bring a smile at the end of each day (hopefully)

 

[DieselB59]

All of the Hadley pumps are is expensive junk. Firestone makes a higher output, higher quality compressor and bigger tanks too. I bought a new Firestone compressor for the same price Hadley rips you off for theirs. I also got a Bendix tank from a truck supplier. It has a three gallon capacity and is mounted under the bed. Lots of air and the compressor keeps up with filling tires, etc. really well too. Got mine from www.awdirect.com

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[ToolManTimTaylor]

The FIRESTONE compressor looks Exactly to the tee in every way the same as what I have. 4K is good for cnc milled or spun carbonwraped tanks using a high pressure three stage manifols (same as nitrogen setups found at paintball playing fields)easy conversion but big$$ for the aplication. The compressor I have is rated at 150 psi @1. 0 cubic foot of volume @ 15 amps. multiply the storage and this could back off at least eight lugs or fill a tire after plugging it on the road with my 1/2 inch impact wrench between cycles. Hey if all goes well Sweet deal. I found a chicago pnumatic 10 gallon slim design that will fit under the tool box in the bed #ad


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Y2K+1 3500 4X4 Quad Cab Powerpacked , Jakit's Front End Leveling Kit with 255/85R16 BFG M/T's Custom Rhino (as seen on website under tool man's truck feature) http://www.rhinoliningsnlc.com DeeZee Goodies, arb air systems 150 psi comp and air storage.
Keeping the rubber side down 'n' shiny side up Will Bring a smile at the end of each day (hopefully)

 

[bpete]

Tim, I have a 27" Weatherguard crossbox and a puma pump on a Honda 5. 5 motor with the dual 2 gal tanks. I had 8" between my box and my bed so I made a extera tank from 1/4"X 8" pipe, capped both ends and pup in a water drain. Welded angle iron to each side and bolted it down. It has worked great for 4yrs at 140 psi.

I am needing to add another compressor to a pickup and was thinking of getting the same pump with an electric motor ($350 vs. $700 with honda) and adding a power inverter so I could run electric items also. Has anyone tried this? I realize that with the power inverter that the cost will be higher, but I will have more options.
Thanks
Brant

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Pete You woke me up with an exelent idea what kinda Pipe? Cast is brittle and pvc is well. . pvc. champer hausefield makes saddle tanks 24X8 inch round for 60 $ a pop.

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Y2K+1 3500 4X4 Quad Cab Powerpacked , Jakit's Front End Leveling Kit with 255/85R16 BFG M/T's Custom Rhino (as seen on website under tool man's truck feature) http://www.rhinoliningsnlc.com DeeZee Goodies, arb air systems 150 psi comp and air storage.
Keeping the rubber side down 'n' shiny side up Will Bring a smile at the end of each day (hopefully)

 

[bpete]

I just used steel pipe welded it up and painted black. Several people around here have the same compressor and at first glance think that mine is crap cause it takes longer to build. Then they want me to build them a tank.
Brant

 

[LaserBob]

I also have an air system on my truck. I have a compressor that will pump 4cfm at ? pressure(I forgot). I have two Peterbilt air tanks (from under the cab doors) mounted under the box in front of the rear tires and Air lifr air bags on my truck. I also removed two of the biggest leaves of the rear springs and added a neway leveling valve (from big trucks) to set the ride height of the truck. I normally have 1800 lbs in the box of my truck and I am happy with the ride that this has given me. The leveling valve makes the ride height the same if I add another 500lbs or take it all out and the ride quality remains good. It varries some, but not much. I am trying shocks to find the best for my application. Currently, I have Rancho 9000s set on 4 on the rear and 2 on the front. I am going to try Monroe Sensitrac (?) next to see if they dampen the ride better. I want to buy the airbaags for the front next. ($275) That may wait for a while.

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[bpete]

Bob,

I also have a 98 12v reg cab flatbed, empty weight 8k. My rear springs are flat and the pickup would ride on the overloads, very rough. I had a set of Air Ride bags from a 92 dodge that I installed. I am using the compressor that I had from Air Ride and have controls in the cab. I am wanting to make it a self leveling system and like your idea. Could you email me some more info?
Thanks,
Brant

 

[Steve Campbell]

I kind of like the idea of thinner wall air tanks mounted on the side and rear. Kind of like "reactive armour" on the Israeli tanks. If someone gets too close they are "expelled" before they can do any real damage to the body of the truck.

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1999 Qcab 4x4 Driftwood
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[ToolManTimTaylor]

thought about freezing problems tonite with condensation building up in low spots of the system and came up with a question. The big rigs use air line antifreez ... ... does anyone here use it ? The truck lives outside and I dunno what made me think of this.

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Y2K+1 3500 4X4 Quad Cab Powerpacked , Jakit's Front End Leveling Kit with 255/85R16 BFG M/T's Custom Rhino (as seen on website under tool man's truck feature) http://www.rhinoliningsnlc.com DeeZee Goodies, Hadley air systems 150 psi comp and air storage.
Keeping the rubber side down 'n' shiny side up Will Bring a smile at the end of each day (hopefully) #ad




[This message has been edited by ToolManTimTaylor1 (edited 03-15-2001). ]

 

[bigkavr]

OK guys, beat this!! My air tank is a 3000 PSI tank!!! He, He... For my air horn,(or tire inflation) I use a dive tank mounted in my bed. An out of service dive regulator is used to cut the pressure down to 125 PSI.
I'm the supervisor/divemaster for our county search and rescue team an as such, I always have atleast three dive tanks in my truck.
On a fire call or dive run, I use the air horn at every intersection, and even with using a little 30 Cu. Ft. pony bottle, the tank last over 4 months!!
Food for thought... .

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