AirDog & Stage 2 CP3 works perfect...no drop in psi

[jwilliams3]

However, there are a lot more of us out here including myself that make a lot more Hp on D/F then you currently that have a different conclusion

Who are the "lot more" and what mods are different from driverno8's?



Also, do you still make those shift knobs?

 

[driverno8]

BTW - WHat brand dyno? not that one is better than another, but I would assume a load dyno, correct?



Better question would be whats your FP do when on the street?

DynoJet. And no FP drop on the street either.

 

[driverno8]

However, there are a lot more of us out here including myself that make a lot more Hp on D/F then you currently that have a different conclusion.

I'm sure there are. I'm not saying I have the most hp by any means. I'm saying adding more pressure gained me absolutly nothing. And why would anyone need a bigger pump or more pressure when the AirDog maintains a constant FP no matter what's asked of it.

 

[driverno8]

Your whole so call "test" and therory lacks more testing of different trucks and configurations, before you can make a statement of fact. Because you determined and found in your "test" there was no difference in the amount of HP changed due to the amount of pressure on your truck does not mean this applies as a rule to all of the rest of us?

Never said it was a test. I was on the dyno after adding CP3. Watching the FP gauge in the truck doesn't constitute a test. I'm just letting everyone know that the AirDog doesn't cause the FP to drop like everyone says the FASS does. Yes, we did try a test to see if raising the FP up, like everyone has to with the FASS, did anything and didn't.

 

[HeberRam]

This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Who are the "lot more" and what mods are different from driverno8's?



Also, do you still make those shift knobs?

Jwilliams3 : here are a few that come to mind



MEGA HP Club:

912/???? (Jetpilot) 2001-

838/1645 (Willy91) 97 2500 STD.

818/1200+ (RCCOX) 04. 5 2500

790/???? (HeberRam) 2005 4x4 auto

741/1339 (csutton7) 99 4x4 QC-

713/???? (Idaho CTD) '02 2500 QCLB

709/???? (John Stewart) 04. 5 CC SB

701/13?? (propuller) 2001 dodge qcsb



600+ HP Club:

682/???? (Don M) 97 3500 CCLB 5spd 4x4-

677/1400 (Mike Holmen) 02 dodge QC, 4X4,

677/1191 (banshee) 04 2500 QCSB 6 spd 4x4

675/1200+ (Rottin Rhonda) '98 12v 2500 4x4 auto

665/???? (MDW) 95 2500 Xcab Auto 2wd

663/1632 (Ponci) '96 2500- b

659/1534 (Luken) 05 2500 QCSB Auto 4x4

658/1206 (sleds) 2000 5spd 4x4

647/1297 (Mike S) 04 Laramie 4X4

640/???? (crawler) 99 2wd 5sp 3500 QC

636/1200+ (Huff nPuff) 01 auto 4x4 QC

628/1366 (rjohnson) 02 2500 QCLB Auto

617/1200+ (bwillard) '01. 5 2500 4x4 ETC

614. 5-1200 (elandon) 01. 5 QCLB Auto 4X4

613/1187 (dockboy) 00 Ford PSD F-250 SCLB

610/1210 (Jetpilot) 2002-

607/1184 (Stomp) 93W250-

606/???? (dlange) 01 dodge 2500

605/1293 (CrashCade) '05 Qcab 4x4

604/1150 (Tomeygun) 03 3500 QUAD

600/1157 (Mooseman) 01 2500 QCSB



Ie. , Maddog 1000 hp+, Brett industrial injection 850 hp, Diesel Power etc. etc. etc..... I'm sorry if I didn't include someone... :-laf :-laf



Maybe you can contact them and run a poll?



Thanks for asking, however, I stopped making shift knobs long ago.

 

[jwilliams3]

What about your mods? Do you have any dyno sheets posted or are they secret? (what are the correction factors?)

The reasons that I question things anymore is because I still here the stories about the outrageous correction factors on certain dyno's (all over the country at this point I might add) that inflate numbers. I also see people not wanting to admit they are running different kinds of power adders (ie N02, meth etc. ) and calling it diesel only.



I also see trucks with the same mods dynoing way off from each other (because of different dyno's) I wonder if its the truck or the dyno?





If you want to include all year model trucks then

why doesnt your mega hp list include any midwest pulling trucks? Take a truck like Brad Ingrams or Craig Severson's and no one on that list can touch a truck like that..... and those are just superstreets! :-laf





Its hard to sort through that list with all the drugs and magical dyno's around these days. I was asking about common rail trucks. . You made the comment about "D/F" only trucks..... let see'em!



By the way I have seen top street pullers out here running the FASS 150 with filters at stock pressures and most of them are at or over 600hp if they want to be competitive.



Do you sledpull or drag race and what are the results?

 

[HeberRam]

Never said it was a test. I was on the dyno after adding CP3. Watching the FP gauge in the truck doesn't constitute a test. I'm just letting everyone know that the AirDog doesn't cause the FP to drop like everyone says the FASS does. Yes, we did try a test to see if raising the FP up, like everyone has to with the FASS, did anything and didn't.

Look, I not here trying to put you down, I personally run a fass and have no experience with the Airdog... However, after saying that, you can not make the statement " I'm just letting everyone know that the AirDog doesn't cause the FP to drop like everyone says the FASS does. " when the only facts are your test( excuse me not test) your recent run on the dyno. Did you run your truck with a fass??? Do you have a comparsion with the two systems (AirDog & Fass) on your truck at the same day and time on the same dyno??? Have you made a comparison between the AirDog, Fass or Walbrol pumps on your truck???

If you answer "no" to any of the questions, your statement is purely conjecture.



My true statement to you is: " Diesel Power" has the fastest truck in the USA. I know so because he told us..... :-laf :-laf and if you don't believe me just ask him. .

 

[HeberRam]

What about your mods? Do you have any dyno sheets posted or are they secret? (what are the correction factors?)





If you want to include all year model trucks then

why doesnt your mega hp list include any midwest pulling trucks? Take a truck like Brad Ingrams or Craig Severson's and no one on that list can touch a truck like that..... and those are just superstreets! :-laf





Its hard to sort through that list with all the drugs and magical dyno's around these days. I was asking about common rail trucks. . You made the comment about "D/F" only trucks..... let see'em!



By the way I have seen top street pullers out here running the FASS 150 with filters at stock pressures and most of them are at or over 600hp if they want to be competitive.



Do you sledpull or drag race and what are the results?

Mr. know it all, I answered your question. I do not have to justify the list, add others that you might know or others that are not on the list. This list is posted on another web site not mine. It does include some that maybe running drugs or whatever. I know a lot of these people personally, and for myself, I run 725 HP on d/f only! There is no secret about me. Those that know me, know my truck is for real. I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. You are just trying to provoke me as you normally do with your other posts on this site. :-{} Why don't you stick to the subject and be more pro-active

 

[SBartel]

That list has very little to do with the subject. Most of the trucks listed do not run a modified CP3. The modified CP3 is where the FASS fueling issues become obvious. When folks did not make the horsepower gains with the modified CP3, the FASS was quickly found to be the culprit. If you have a Modded CP3 you can not run a 95 FASS - you have to upgrade to at least a 150 set at 40psi to see the HP results. Why? Because a 150 set at 20 drops to a very low pressure.



BUT the point that driverno8 made is a off the shelf AirDog will maintain the pressure and allow the modded CP3 to make its power potential without any special pumps built specially for the modded CP3.



If he did run a FASS 95 in this test and had good results, he would be the first. Why run it when everyone else had to upgrade to see the results from the modded CP3.

 

[jwilliams3]

Why don't you stick to the subject and be more pro-active

I did stick the subject. Your the one who started posting dyno numbers from 2nd gens... . Last time I check there was no CP3 on a 2nd gen.



Just as I expected secret squirrel mods and dyno numbers... .



I rest my case.

You are just trying to provoke me as you normally do with your other posts on this site. Why don't you stick to the subject and be more pro-active

Just trying to keep an even keel here... . I guess by questioning anything then I am a trouble maker by your standard.

 

[Luken]

I did stick the subject. Your the one who started posting dyno numbers from 2nd gens... . Last time I check there was no CP3 on a 2nd gen.



Just as I expected secret squirrel dyno numbers... .



I rest my case.

I agree with jwilliams on this subject. It really bugs me when I see numbers and they don't say how they got the power. I don't really know what people think they can gain by not telling others what the hell they are doing. I just haven't updated my sig yet since my truck was broke but everytime someone asks a question I give them my FULL answer.



I think alot of these HIGH dyno numbers are after correction factors and with NOS.



jwilliams, we need to start getting on the right dyno's and bottle feeding our trucks so we can make some numbers. We are falling behind...

 

[BradyWilliams]

It's too bad you guys are sparring. You are all great guys. I will say one thing about Heber Ram. I watched him lay down his hp number at the Edge event this summer. The dyno was with no correction and they ran your truck for you in 3rd gear. Anyone that has a big single will not get the charger to load completely in 3rd gear to show max. hp. He ran at 4500ft elevation. The guys running everyones trucks didn't seem to understand what was needed. But Edge did put on a very nice event with all the trimmings. Thanks

 

[Diesel Power]

herbert ram, now you have the title of fastest in the usa... ... ... ... ... ... :-laf

 

[Luken]

herbert ram, now you have the title of fastest in the usa... ... ... ... ... ... :-laf

What's his best time?

 

[HeberRam]

What's his best time?

Faster then yours.

 

[Luken]

Faster then yours.

I would hope so. You have injectors/cp3 mod/NOS and who knows what else. I can gaurantee you have spent tons of $$$ to gain 130. 7 more horsepower than my truck. If I had a set of sticks and a bottle I would be over that.

 

[Luken]

What do you have to gain by not showing your numbers? Post up a slip so we can be impressed...

 

[jwilliams3]

Secret Squirrel at the controls in the dyno room.

 

[osiris]

haha thats funny right there

 

[Diesel Power]

you guys made me pull a muscule from laughing so hard, that was a good set up--heberram, thats MR. 11. 74 e. t. on d/f---- luken :-laf :-laf jk