Aisen Auto specs

[klenger]

I added the DC 68RE to the worksheet for your viewing pleasure.

 

[Ross]

Whoa! I REALLY like the looks of that new 68RE! Thanks Klenger! I love the lower 1st and 2nd, and then the extra OD. Prolly could tow in 5th and keep it in the "happy spot", and use 6th when empty for some mileage.



Is it true that the only way to get the new 68RE is with the new EGR 6. 7?



I don't want to be a guinea pig with the new motor, but might take my chances on the new transmission, provided I could get the current non-EGR 5. 9.



Decisions, decisions: Buy now and get a proven package, or wait and get ????



Any suggestions?

 

[EMD-Run8]

I think the Aisin will only be available with 4. 10's.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I hope not. . . 3. 73s would make the Aisin a terrific highway cruiser! 2000 RPM at 80 is perfect! And it would still make a great towing machine for all but the heaviest stuff: deep 1st gear to launch a load, direct in 4th for pulling moderate grades, and 5th for towing on the flat. That transmission with 3. 73s would be da BOMB! Would love to put one in my '98



One (of many) dislikes I have with the current auto is the tall 1st gear. With a tight torque converter and a heavy load, and 3. 73 gears, it's a little tough to get rolling. Add a large single turbo and high elevation. . . smoke city, no spool! With the Aisin a tight TC should be no problem, best of all worlds pretty much!



Vaughn

 

[KCJackson]

Here's the engine/trans/axle availability according to DC on September 1...



2007 Chasis-cab (in production now):

6. 7/G56/3. 73

6. 7/Aisin/3. 73

6. 7/Aisin/4. 10



2007 Pickups (production ends December 2006):

5. 9/G56/3. 73

5. 9/48RE/3. 73

5. 9/48RE/4. 10



2007. 5 Pickups (production starts January 2007)

6. 7/G56/3. 73

6. 7/68RFE/3. 73

6. 7/68RFE/4. 10



A couple of clarifications from earlier posts...

- The Mopar unit is a 68RFE, not 68RE. The "F" is important, as it means "Full" electronic control. It is the big brother to the 45RFE and 545RFE - it shares nothing with the outgoing 48RE.

- The Aisin is strictly for chassis-cab trucks. It was selected beause of its immediate availability and its PTO ports.



Ross, the 68RFE and emissions-6. 7 will both be new to the world in January. The new trans and the power increase are intended to be a trade-off for the emissions equipment.

 

[Ross]

Well, many may not remember, but the 1998. 5 "new" 24-valve ISB was supposed to be 1) quieter, 2) more powerful, and 3) more economical than the previous 12V B5. 9 it replaced. It was none of those. I know, I bought one, and joined the TDR in 1999 to try to find ways to coax more power out of the new 24 valve. It was about a year later that TST finally released their powermax, and others followed. After a few bombs, it was quite easy to make the 24-valve really run. Installing the 275hp RV injectors helped mileage, while other mods would dramatically make power. All was well and good, but my point is that Dodge "lied" to us before about the great attributes of the "new next generation Cummins power train" in the 1998. 5 Ram.



I don't know if I want to be one of the first this time. I guess I'll buy an existing 2006 or early 2007. The new transmission sounds great, but I'll have to let someone else be the beta tester this time.

 

[mberry]

... All was well and good, but my point is that Dodge "lied" to us before about the great attributes of the "new next generation Cummins power train" in the 1998. 5 Ram.

I don't mean any disrespect, but which auto manufacturer HAS NOT lied to the public about their new products?

 

[CLamb]

I would be very very happy to have an Aisin Trans in my truck. Alot of people don't realize it but all of the 4. 0L equiped jeep cherokees(small ones 87-01) came with an Aisin 4 speed auto. The BEST thing chrysler did with those jeeps was NOT put a chrysler trans in them lol. My jeep has a stroker motor and wieghs at least 1000lbs over stock. . 208K on the trans and loving it.

 

[fest3er]

DCX and the UAW are in some challenging negotiations on North American vehicles and what transmissions are going to be used. ...

If this is true, then DCX deserves to die a slow, agonizing death. Why would any business let a union dictate product components? Why is the government letting unions operate outside their charters?



And the so-called union "leaders" still can't figure out why membership keeps dropping, year after year.



Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to digress from the thread's topic. I had an interesting though about gear ratios and usage in the Aisin trans, but I can't find any technical specs about it; Aisin's web sites seem to be designed by mid-level managers who are terrified by the thought of releasing real, useful information to the public.

 

[vegasredneck]

I feel that DC is making the best choice by offering the two trannies. It allows the little guy to have the option of buying a 6sp for everyday or if they want to just have their weekend hauler with a heavier transmission.

What surprises me is that the New Aspen (will be added later to the Dakota)will have a towing feature that helps with trailer sway by applying brake pressure to the opposite wheels. I would think that they would have offered it on the trucks also.

 

[FPettijohn]

fest3er

This forum is not the place for this discussion and I will happily meet you in a correct 1. I cannot just let you disparage what many good men and women have worked so hard for. You obviously think you make the income you do because of benevolent corporations that have only your interest at heart and the shareholders pockets are not there concern but for most of us the rich wish to get MUCH richer and they want to do it on MY back. Not by working harder or smarter not by wishing every 1 has health care not even caring if we even have jobs that pay a DECENT wage. That is the reason unions were started and you better bet your sweet butt they stay around otherwise the republicans will eat you too.

Sticky

If you wish to remove this I understand

Fred Union and Democrat and PROUD of it!!!

 

[FATCAT]

Here's the engine/trans/axle availability according to DC on September 1...



2007 Chasis-cab (in production now):

6. 7/G56/3. 73

6. 7/Aisin/3. 73

6. 7/Aisin/4. 10

Correction ... .

You can also get the 6. 7L with the 6-speed Manual G56 with a 4. 10 rear end ... I have a printed sheet with it spec'ed out from a dealer.



That would make for a decent towing rig. I don't drive over 70mph anyway ... last I saw the max speed limit was 65 so I figure 70 is pushing it.

 

[fest3er]

fest3er

This forum is not the place for this discussion and I will happily meet you in a correct 1. I cannot just let you disparage what many good men and women have worked so hard for. You obviously think you make the income you do because of benevolent corporations that have only your interest at heart and the shareholders pockets are not there concern but for most of us the rich wish to get MUCH richer and they want to do it on MY back. Not by working harder or smarter not by wishing every 1 has health care not even caring if we even have jobs that pay a DECENT wage. That is the reason unions were started and you better bet your sweet butt they stay around otherwise the republicans will eat you too.

Sticky

If you wish to remove this I understand

Fred Union and Democrat and PROUD of it!!!

Actually, I have no income. I'm still waiting for my own corporation to become solid enough to make enough money to pay the owners. Our employees make far more than we owners do.



And, like a lot of union members I've encountered, you totally ignored what I said and attempted to twist my post into a union-bashing thread, which is not the case.



I fully agree that most managers and corporate leaders work solely to line their own pockets with gold and stuff them with cash. That's why I quit Motorola 6 years ago after 10. 5 years.



And I fully agree that many workers (replaceable cogs, in the eyes of most management) need watchdog organizations to look out for their best interests; after all, most workers spend their workdays producing and don't have (or aren't allowed) the time to spend looking out for their own interests.



However, I still fully stand by my statement that unions have absolutely no business dictating product components to businesses. Unions were chartered to allow workers to organize so they could look after their own best interests, because most factory owners treated them worse than slaves. Remember, this was back when business owners had an active role in the management and direction of their companies; the 'professional' non-owning manager was only starting to emerge.



And I further add that most union management differs not a whit from corporate management; they are out to line their own pockets with gold and stuff them with as much cash as is possible, all on the backs of their members.



I actually intended my post to bash the so-called professional management of today's corporations. The same managers who put their own income far above product quality, customer satisfaction, employee gruntling and even far above company profit.



The goal of each and every business (yes, unions are businesses) should be to produce a quality product, at a reasonable cost, that satisfies the customers, and allows the company to make a reasonable profit, all the while gruntling the employees. I think TDR is a good example of such a business. Instead, most companies produce mediocre products that cost too much, ire their customers, disgruntle their employees, make little profit and, somehow, pay large bonuses to management and officers.



Now, how in God's name can I bring this post back on topic? I can't speak of the relative merits of the 6. 7 because I haven't driven one, I don't have the time to test drive one, nor do I have the funds to buy one. (I'm still driving the '98 2500 I bought new 9 years ago; it now has 213K miles on it, and is showing its age. ) I still haven't found any on-line specs for the Aisin trans, so I can't elaborate on my aforementioned idea.



...



Ah! The 6. 7 is a first-year motor. Y'all can rest, assured that the '08s will have much cleaner wiring. Recall the first-year Dodge with common rail ('03). Recall the first year GM with the Duramax. Both had rather odd wiring harnesses; and both had much better wiring in the second year models. I might even go on to say that only die-hard Dodge buyers will buy these first-year models. People looking for solid, reliable pickups will head to their local church socials and ... wait ... that's not right. ... Errr, they'll wait for the '08s to come out, because the second-year models are nearly always much better than the first-year models.

 

[fest3er]

... last I saw the max speed limit was 65 so I figure 70 is pushing it.

Geez. You don't get out much, do you? In South Dakota where people are laid out (unlike California, where they're laid back), the speed limit is 75 hither and yon. Old Stumpy should be able to verify... .

 

[FPettijohn]

fester3

That was an excellent reply and I wish to apologize for assuming (yes I know ) that you were union bashing, must have been a bad day . You are correct about the workers dictating components but they need to stand for WHERE those components are manufactured. Keeping jobs in the US, keeping jobs done correctly the first time and yes keeping the US auto industry profitable should be all Americans priority.

On the 2007 6. 7 I am going to wait and see, I think Cummins and DCX have done there home work but--- lets see what warranty costs and customer comments will bring.

Fred



2004. 5 qcsrwlb pillar phantom guages xzt lightbox 37p2 sportsmen to many toys not enough time

 

[gsbrockman]

I added the DC 68RE to the worksheet for your viewing pleasure.

Thanks for your time & effort adding these figures.



Your spreadsheets are top*notch... ... . I found the info I was looking for after performing a search. :-laf



I just took delivery of the truck in my sig May 30th.



Thanks again for all you do !



Greg