Alternative fuel filters ????

[DVolk]

Is there Alternative fuel filters out there that dont have

the water in fuel sensor ?



On my conversion i dont have it wired and mine is messed up

and i hate the idea of buying one for $30. 00 for something i dont need .

Is there a Aluminum one avalible those plastic one tend to strip or mess up ?



I know there are tractors that have 5. 9 cummins any body have one that has a fuel filter that will work , i just need a part number .



Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dieselman359]

Try a Fleetguard FS 1221. I got the number from a fellow member, however I have yet to try it. It is supposed to be a 'regular' filter without the water-in-fuel sensor open bottom.

 

[BDaugherty]

From the hastings catalong online. Application I typed in was for '92 Cummins. Read the last line.

Hastings Catalog Lookup System



PART NUMBER: FF897

Descriptions : Fuel/Water Separator Spin-on with Sensor Port

Contains : Integral Post Seal

Sensor Port Thread 1 1/4-10

Fits : 1989-93 Dodge Light-Duty Trucks with 5. 9L Diesel Engines

Replaces : Chrysler 4429107; Baldwin BF1232

Thread : M16 x 1. 5

O. D. : 3 1/32 (77. 0)

Length : 4 11/16 (119. 1)

F. Gskt : [2] Included

I. Gskt : [1] Included

Related to : FF1031 (without Sensor Port)

 

[Shadrach]

Fleetgaurd has several different filters, both FF ( straight filter ) and FS ( with water seperator ) that will fit in place of the FS1232. I will get all the p/n for you later. Shadrach

 

[Greenleaf]

There are too many to list. I just use the long one from Baldwin BF1221 It shows a much lower pressure drop than the shorty and last longer per my fuel (pressure) gauge. You can get the same or similar lengths in many many brands. Just watch the micron rate, which you won't know unless you contact a factory rep.



I have some micron rates in my notes. Off hand I don't recall the numbers. There are also nominal and absolute rates, so you'd need to compare apple to apple and not one with an orange. Clear as night?

 

[Shadrach]

OK here is what I found out from Fleetguard about replacement fuel filters for 1st gens ( original p/n FS1232 )

FS series are water seperators and generally have a large white drain knob. FF are straight filters and generally have no drain provisions.



FS1232 6. 69" tall w/ sensor or 4. 42" w/o sensor flow is 50 gph 20 micron. Drain and sensor valve is p/n 3831852-S



FF5052 4. 59" ( metal body - NLA ) which changes to FF42000 4. 58" ( this is a black non-metallic body ) flow is 61 gph micron 20. This is a common filter for the "B" series engine in other applications.



FS1235 4. 53" is a shorter version of FS1251 5. 63" but flow is ONLY 19 gph



FF5018 4. 92" flow rate is only 20 gph or Stratapore upgrade is FF5461 flow rate is 20 gph but is 4 micron ( too fine for a single filter ) or FS1221 7. 09" flow is 53 gph micron is 22.



If you want to repIace your stock filter and you don't want to use the WIF sensor/drain valve, then I would use the FF42000. It is a common filter and has a flat base with a 3/8 square hole in it for easy removal. Since you will be using a different filter buy two, and keep one in the truck.

In general if you are broke down in the middle of nowhere and you don't have a spare filter ( there is a lesson in here ) you could go to any Cummins dealer that uses the "B" series ( Midrange ) engines. These dealers include Freightliner, Case, Ingersol Rand, Komatsu etc. Just don't tell them it's a Dodge, you'll just confuse the guy. . Give them one of these part numbers. You should always carry a spare fuel filter with you, but use your spare and replace it. Don't leave it under the seat for years and expect it to be still sealed in the plastic and clean. I have seen people pull out their "spare" only to find it dirty and rusty .

If you use a filter with less flow it could cause problems at higher rpm or under load.

Shadrach

 

[Dieselman359]

Shadrach, you really did some awsome research! Thanks



I noticed that also when you carry a spare, chances are after it rattles around in your tool box that the plastic is no more.

 

[JLEONARD]

I think any of the flow rates you mentioned will be fine in our applications.

 

[DVolk]

I bought a couple of fuel filters at NAPA



I did a search first on the Wix Web site and looked up



Case farm tractors in the " MX Series "



these tractors come with either the 3. 9 L ,or 5. 9L, or 8. 3 L Cummins

and the real big boys come with a L10 or N14 Cummins .



I dont have the part #s in front of me there in the shop .



I think there was a 4230 and 5730 or 5830



I also bought a couple of 3/8" inline fuel filters .



Im fighting Bad fuel thats in my Burb Conversion thats a few years old



When i got it first running the fuel was normal color . Then I drove it



and it sat getting started a lot then the first 8 mile trip or so is when my problem started .



I thought i had enough additives but , i guess not or it back fired on me .



The fuel turned Redish white . I drained it out via the GM fuel tank drain by the rear wheels useing a electric pump $30. 00 of fuel i just put in is now fire starter or weed killer .



The fuel pretty much looks normal now but i keep on getting



Rust and dirt , etc , i had one more fuel fiter the stock type i bought for it on it now with the fuel seperator mickey moused as its leaking , or was not now thanks to a old bolt a O ring and a old inner tube .



Runs fine in a 2 gallon can of fuel with additives i have not hooked the tank up or drove it again yet .



Any ideas ???????????????????

 

[JLEONARD]

You need to eliminate the source of the rust/dirt or continue to filter the fuel until it's clean.

You can try using an external filter and your electric pump to recycle the fuel until it's clean. A lot of boaters do that when their fuel sits around too long and it works.