Amsoil 5-30HD

[onesloryd]

Who in the Southern California area has Amsoil 5-30HD for sale?

Thanks

 

[lschultz]

Call 1-800-956-5695 and they will ship it to your house.

 

[jsimpson]

I used it for a while. It is so light that it steadily came out the breather tube as a mist. Had to change to 15-40. :--)

 

[yogibear]

I've used it in my Ram for 150+Kmi. now, with no problems. Its also in my 6spd. transmission!

Larry

 

[Sled Puller]

That is a new one jsimpson!!

 

[Cooker]

Gene,

There have been a few members that have switched back to the 15w40 for the a similar reason as "jsimpson", increased blowby.



I don't remember reading who they were now.

 

[Sled Puller]

Cooker I missed those.

I did hear of one guy switch back becuase of what he called "viscosity break down". And where was the sample proof?



Well, it just "LOOKED" thin! 5W-30 looks thin out of the bottle!



I don't know, I never had any problem with blow by in 100,000 miles on 5W-30.



Seems strange. 5w-30 is what they all will be running shortly, 40 wts are being phased out.

 

[HC]

Seems strange. 5w-30 is what they all will be running shortly, 40 wts are being phased out.

I remember, more than twenty years ago, when I first started using M1 5W-20. Of couse, I had to violate specific Manufacturer's guidelines, and many said it was crazy. 20 years later, over 400k on that little 4-banger gasser, and would still be running if the current owner could find the time to install a new timing belt (original engine, never rebuilt). I may try the 15W-40 just for grins, but am I worried about using the "watery" 5W-30 synthetic? Not a bit.

 

[JohnE]

Gene;

I would have swore on a stack of AMSOIL bottles you even posted on those threads.

John T of the NWBombers has posted many many times of his trials and treibelations with synthetic oils. He too switched from AMSOIL 5W-30 back to 15W-40 due to the <em>misting</em> from the vent tube.



I have the Series 3000 5W-30 in my Cummins. It is the finest engine oil I have ever used for winter conditions. It is much better than the conventional synthetic (that really reads funny) Amsoil 5W-30 in the Mommy van.



-John

 

[Sled Puller]

John,

I sure can't rememebr it, and if the search would work properly, I would have checked. LOL



Maybe those misters turned out to be head gasket failures,.

 

[jsimpson]

Sorry to disappoint you MGM, but my misting was in a perfectly healthy 70,000 mile 1st gen using Series 3000 5W-30. Switching back to 15-40 solved the problem; no misting at present 92,000 miles. That was a VERY expensive experiment which Amsoil ignored when I notified them of the results. I believe that a a closed crankcase ventilation system would take care of the problem, as I had no trouble running Series 2000 0-30 in my Buick Park Avenue. :--)

 

[Sled Puller]

Well, let me ask you this:

What should a company do that has its product in thousands of the same engines, same application, and nobody else is having this problem?







Not flaming you, but how would you handle a situation like that?



And who did you talk to at Amsoil, that sometomes has lots to do with it.

 

[Newf Limo]

I recently put the 5W 30 in my six speed, but when it is near or below freezing, I get alot of gear grinding in second and especially third until the transmission warms up a little. I didn't have that with the stock oil so I may go back. I have always had a little misting from the puke bottle so I ran the hose under the truck to keep the engine cleaner. I had misting with the stock oil and didn't notice an increase with the amsoil 5w30.

 

[jsimpson]

Gee MGM, I don't know about thousands of people using it. I haven't met anyone who uses the 5-30 or the 0-30 besides myself and some of the people whom I have talked into using it in their Gold Wings. As for no one else having the problem, I also remember the thread where people were complaining about the same thing. Seems to me that if two of the few people who are watching this thread remember it, then your assertion that I'm the only one with the problem is a little pretentious, wouldn't you agree? As for Amsopil's lack of response, I've talked to different people at different times about different problems with Amsoil, rarely with any really helpful advice. When talking to them, I seldom foresee having to justify my reports on websites by remembering names, so I don't make it a practice to ask. In the case of my complaints about the 5-30, I clearly remember the response was that other people have complained about the same thing, and Amsoil's advice is to switch back to Marine 15-40. When asked if Amsoil would cover the cost of switching, since they were the ones who initially recommended the 5-30, the answer was "no". I use and have used Amsoil and been a dealer for many years, but I don't consider it to be miraculous, just a good synthetic oil among many. In my opinion, tempered by over 45 years of engine building, the Cummins is best served by 15-40.

 

[Sled Puller]

Been to a warehouse lately? There are thousands using 5w-30, you can count on it.



I just said I had never herad of it happening, it was new to me.

It still is, nobody has ever complained to me about it.



I could not find the old thread you are talking about.



I make it a habit to get names of people I talk to at any company I'm dealing with, I thought other people did the same thing.





Well? What would you do? What was the problem? Was it misting gallons out?



Drawing on your 45 years of engine building, can you tell me why mine does not do that?

I think that is a legitimate question.



(Personally, if you were not happy with a product for any reason, I would have given your money back. )

 

[jsimpson]

You know the old adage about never assume, don't you?

As for what would I do? If I had people complaining about misting of 5-30 in their Cummins, I would warn customers that such a thing could happen. Gee, I did do exactly that, didn't I? So I guess I'm a good example for corpporate Amsoil to follow!

Why is it happening in mine and not yours? Possibly because my 89 engine is running looser tolerances than later models, resulting in more blowby, thereby ramming more mist out the breather tube. Somebody makes a recovery system for that lost oil, so there must be more than two of us with the problem. I know it was cheaper to increase weight than to buy a recovery system or bore the block and buy replacement pistons. A quart a week on average was lost before I switched back. That was Amsoil HQ I called, and they are less generous than you apparently are with their refunds! Warehouse observations aside, do you have any hard numbers on Amsoil 3000 5-30 sales? On 15-40 sales? It would be too much to ask for it to be broken down according to how many customers were Cummins users of course. There are good applications for the 5-30. I use it in my Vette, my Harley, my Tundra, and my old Cub Cadet. Just not in my Cummins thank you very much!

 

[Sled Puller]

Yes, I see where driveing a dinosaur may be troublesome with 5W-30.



I would ASSUME 15w-40 sales would be way ahead of 5W-30, for the years it has been available,the price, and the "OLD" trucks are more plentiful than brand new ones.



But the sell a ton of 5W-30 the company is bigger than people give it credit.



I only sell 5W-30 to guys who put 30,000+miles a year, have a farely new truck, and plan on extended drains.

I think we would all be shocked on the actual numbers of Dodge Cummins owners using the 5w-30.



Gene

 

[JohnE]

Thread header listed MGM as the last poster. Here I find this joker called sled puller make the last post and is none other than one in the same.



Joke's on me?



As I stated before, the 5W-30 is a great winter oil. I'll keep in in the case until I run out of filter replacement juice and then make my decision.



-John

 

[Sled Puller]

I don't know who that Sled puller guy is using my sig, but he better stop it.

 

[Don M]

Several people have complained about the misting from the breather tube being a problem for them.

I remember reading it in the past and that being part of my decision to not use the thin stuff. When I ordered Amsoil I ordered the 15/40.



After a quick search I found a few of the old threads



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26901&perpage=15&pagenumber=1





https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23903&highlight=5w30



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5645&highlight=5w30



Don~