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Install is not difficult. I mounted my bypass filter behind front bumper on passenger side on my 05. Used a piece of flat steel as mounting bracket. Remove wheel and fender liner for access. I used the Amsoil swivel fitting and return line goes into a replacement oil filler cap from NAPA. Cummins filler cap had some weird springs in the middle that wouldn't work with the return fitting.
 
I used John Strenkowski's mounting set up very nice, don't hear any noise from it like you do the frame mounts
 
Is there something different on the Cummins filter mount vs the 5. 7 hemi mount. I'm asking because when I traded in my 04 hemi, I removed my Amsoil Bypass in hopes of using it on the new 06 CTD. That used a plate that both oil lines went to it, out to the dual filters and then back to the plate mounted on the oil filter mount. Can't I re-use this set-up on the Cummins but maybe with a different plate?
 
madduck said:
Is there something different on the Cummins filter mount vs the 5. 7 hemi mount. I'm asking because when I traded in my 04 hemi, I removed my Amsoil Bypass in hopes of using it on the new 06 CTD. That used a plate that both oil lines went to it, out to the dual filters and then back to the plate mounted on the oil filter mount. Can't I re-use this set-up on the Cummins but maybe with a different plate?



The thread size will be different, I'm know you can order parts from Amsoil to adapt to the Cummins
 
I am thinking about purchasing the Bypass, but I wanted to know if it really filters well enough to remove the soot from the oil? Bombing seems to add a lot of soot. :) I looked at a post on another brand that had a video which demonstrated that it could do this. I just wanted to make sure Amsoil has the same ability.
 
EbarA said:
I am thinking about purchasing the Bypass, but I wanted to know if it really filters well enough to remove the soot from the oil? Bombing seems to add a lot of soot. :) I looked at a post on another brand that had a video which demonstrated that it could do this. I just wanted to make sure Amsoil has the same ability.



The Amsoil EaBP-100 By-pass filter element is 98. 7 % efficient Absolute @ 2 MICRONS, and the Donaldson ELF-7349 "FULL-FLOW" Element is 98. 7 % Efficient @ 15 MICRON/ 50 % Efficient @ 7 MICRON. Capacity as per the same spec. is 54 Grams, Donaldson ELF-7349 is 125 Grams.



Cummins Spec. #10634 is 59% Efficiency, Donaldson ELF-7349 is 98. 7%. :)





Wayne

amsoilman
 
amsoilman said:
The Amsoil EaBP-100 By-pass filter element is 98. 7 % efficient Absolute @ 2 MICRONS, and the Donaldson ELF-7349 "FULL-FLOW" Element is 98. 7 % Efficient @ 15 MICRON/ 50 % Efficient @ 7 MICRON. Capacity as per the same spec. is 54 Grams, Donaldson ELF-7349 is 125 Grams.



Cummins Spec. #10634 is 59% Efficiency, Donaldson ELF-7349 is 98. 7%. :)





Wayne

amsoilman



Wayne, if a bypass filter clogs, biggest loss is it no longer filters efficiently, and the system merely returns to stock, with the full flow filter doing all filtration as it did before the bypass setup was installed.



There are Amsoil-supplied specs as to particle size filtration - but what about *volume* of contaminents that filter will hold before going into bypass mode - especially as compared to conventional filters? That's a common spec for air filters, what about oil filters?



There's no particular magic or mystery as to providing better *full flow* filtration, but previously, concerns as to reduced oil flow and tendency to clog the element were a big issue where use of denser full flow elements were considered - and such events would cause the clogged full flow filter to go into it's own "bypass mode", where large portions of the oil were no longer being filtered, but merely re-routed around the full flow filter.



SO, the big question that only time and miles will tell (maybe), is whether there is a similar issue and price to be paid in the Amsoil full flow filter - especially where owners may be a bit lax in changing filters at proper intervals.



Problem is, there are no lights or bells going off when that full flow filter is no longer functional, and raw unfiltered oil is being routed directly into the engine internals...



That new Amsoil filter sure *sounds* interesting though!
 
Gary - K7GLD said:
Wayne, if a bypass filter clogs, biggest loss is it no longer filters efficiently, and the system merely returns to stock, with the full flow filter doing all filtration as it did before the bypass setup was installed.



There are Amsoil-supplied specs as to particle size filtration - but what about *volume* of contaminents that filter will hold before going into bypass mode - especially as compared to conventional filters? That's a common spec for air filters, what about oil filters?



There's no particular magic or mystery as to providing better *full flow* filtration, but previously, concerns as to reduced oil flow and tendency to clog the element were a big issue where use of denser full flow elements were considered - and such events would cause the clogged full flow filter to go into it's own "bypass mode", where large portions of the oil were no longer being filtered, but merely re-routed around the full flow filter.



SO, the big question that only time and miles will tell (maybe), is whether there is a similar issue and price to be paid in the Amsoil full flow filter - especially where owners may be a bit lax in changing filters at proper intervals.



Problem is, there are no lights or bells going off when that full flow filter is no longer functional, and raw unfiltered oil is being routed directly into the engine internals...



That new Amsoil filter sure *sounds* interesting though!

Gary,

Good questions!



The By-pass, as you state is just going to not filter anymore, and the "Full-Flow" will take over ALL FILTRATION. By the way, the Amsoil By-pass elements DO NOT HAVE BY-PASS VALVES in them like a "Full-Flow" does.



That said, Amsoil's recommendation for Vehicles with gas or Diesel fueled Engines, the EaO filters. as well the Donaldson Endurance ELF 7349 (Dodge Cummins 5. 9 L) is this: Change filter at rime of oil change up to 25,000 miles or One-year service life, which ever comes first, when used in conjunction with AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil. This is DIRECTLY due to the Synthetic Nano-Fiber technology that is incorperated in the filters, and their motor oil.



In HeavyDuty Commercial vehicles and off-road equipment, when used in conjucntion with AMSOIL Synthetic MOtor Oil, change filter up to TWO times longer then OEM recommendations, not to exceed 60,000 miles for on-Highway Diesel applications, and always change oil filter at the time of oil change.



These recommendations come DIRECTLY from AMSOIL INC.



Hope this answers your questions.



Best Regards,





Wayne

amsoilman
 
Thanks for the info Wayne - I'm very interested in trying one of those filters along with my existing Frantz bypass setup.



I'll soon be sending off a new oil sample using the Fleetguard 3894, and will have a particle count done along with the usual tests. I want to order one of the new Amsoil filters from you to install when I take that sample and change the oil currently in my truck. The Frantz will undoubtedly slew readings a bit, but still maybe a useful comparison.



Please PM me with your phone # so I can contact you direct.



Thanks. :)
 
Gary - K7GLD said:
Thanks for the info Wayne - I'm very interested in trying one of those filters along with my existing Frantz bypass setup.



I'll soon be sending off a new oil sample using the Fleetguard 3894, and will have a particle count done along with the usual tests. I want to order one of the new Amsoil filters from you to install when I take that sample and change the oil currently in my truck. The Frantz will undoubtedly slew readings a bit, but still maybe a useful comparison.



Please PM me with your phone # so I can contact you direct.



Thanks. :)

Done Gary!



Wayne
 
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