Amsoil oil bypass mounting location suggestions?

[NIsaacs]

I think bypass oil filters are popular with Internet Cummins owners who use social media, I've never seen one anywhere but on the internet.

even the heavy duty side of the industry has went away from bypass ( aka dual) oil filtration. used to be everything we ran had dual filtration, came from factory like that.

I agree. All the big trucks, back in the day used them. It was not referred to as the bypass, just the 750 Luberfiner. Ag or construction didn't use them.

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Nick

 

[Newsa]

I think bypass oil filters are popular with Internet Cummins owners who use social media, I've never seen one anywhere but on the internet.

even the heavy duty side of the industry has went away from bypass ( aka dual) oil filtration. used to be everything we ran had dual filtration, came from factory like that.

I installed an amsoil bypass on my 1998 Isuzu Amigo in 2000. Long before I knew what social media is.

I know it is more of a challenge for a single full flow filter to effectively to filter soot with these new oils and their dispersants. So I choose to run a bypass.

 

[6V92TA]

I installed an amsoil bypass on my 1998 Isuzu Amigo in 2000. Long before I knew what social media is.

I know it is more of a challenge for a single full flow filter to effectively to filter soot with these new oils and their dispersants. So I choose to run a bypass.

I worked on diesel powered buses from 1978 until present and changed two oil filters every time I did a PM up until about 1990, long before I knew that a Luberfiner Oil filter was really a Bypass Oil filter or social media that Al gore invented via the internet existed, so I suspect we are even. LOL

 

[Newsa]

I worked on diesel powered buses from 1978 until present and changed two oil filters every time I did a PM up until about 1990, long before I knew that a Luberfiner Oil filter was really a Bypass Oil filter or social media that Al gore invented via the internet existed, so I suspect we are even. LOL

I respect the many years that you worked on diesel engines. My father retired after working as a test engineer at Caterpillar tractor for almost 40 years. He agrees that a bypass filter is a good investment. What us a test engineer? A test engineer tests the machines consecutively after many hours of operation and then again and again and again. He would tell me that I do change my oil too often, though

You might disagree with this, but I think it explains why I run an extra filter.

"In a case study performed by General Motors and published by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), it was determined that engine service life could be extended eight times when 5-micron filtration is implemented vs. the standard 40-micron filtration."

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/29026/engine-bypass-filtration

 

[6V92TA]

Newsa, since we are doing resume's and family history now, almost everybody in my family is an engineer. My sister has a Masters in Electrical Engineering but she retiered and sits on her *** at home, My Brother In Law has a Masters in Industrial Engineering and has worked at GM since 1979, he also was Chief Test Engineer.. my brother is a mechanical engineer currently at Borg Warner, previously at Gates.., my other brother was not an engineer but he ran the main parts warehouse for Daimler Chryselr in Port Huron for a awhile until they alsmost folded during the bankruptcy years.. my Uncle has a Masters in Mechanical Engineering, he still consults even though he is damn near 85, his whole life was spent at Borg Warner.. some of my family has patents in therir name for various industrial processes, I could probably go on for awhile as I am originally from the Detroit area, so pretty much everybody I grew up with worked in the automotive industry at quite a few different levels.. only reason I didn't go that route was I like to party alot more than I want to sit in a classroom and prefer being outside or doing things with my hands instead of putting up with suits and ties.

its sort of like I am an Operation Maintenance Instructor at Miami Dade Transit for the last 15 years, but it doesn't count for much with you guys. Previously was a Bus mechanic for 25 years before that, I had a triple Masters ASE plus some of the automotive certs but am letting them expire because my *** is in DROP ( you know what that is) and I have exactly 27 pay periods left before I cash in my chips... it doesn't really matter.none of this resume stuff matters.... shoot, I have a CDL and train people to get those too.... spent 7 years in a class 7 truck repairing crap in the street. all day in a truck.. so Its not like I'm looking for any advice from anyone on this forum, only thing I am looking for is that one guy who knows more than I do... so far the only one is Trans Engineer.. my ears perk up when he comments. for everyone else on this forum I mostly hear blah blah blah and I like to stir them up. its just a way to kill time and entertain myself.

Back to the subject matter, if you want to put a extra oil filter on that engine, that's up to you.. you and I will both agree that it will not hurt
and I will probably differ on whether you will ever see any benefit.

have fun with it

 

[mwilson]

Newsa, since we are doing resume's and family history now, almost everybody in my family is an engineer. My sister has a Masters in Electrical Engineering but she retiered and sits on her *** at home, My Brother In Law has a Masters in Industrial Engineering and has worked at GM since 1979, he also was Chief Test Engineer.. my brother is a mechanical engineer currently at Borg Warner, previously at Gates.., my other brother was not an engineer but he ran the main parts warehouse for Daimler Chryselr in Port Huron for a awhile until they alsmost folded during the bankruptcy years.. my Uncle has a Masters in Mechanical Engineering, he still consults even though he is damn near 85, his whole life was spent at Borg Warner.. some of my family has patents in therir name for various industrial processes, I could probably go on for awhile as I am originally from the Detroit area, so pretty much everybody I grew up with worked in the automotive industry at quite a few different levels.. only reason I didn't go that route was I like to party alot more than I want to sit in a classroom and prefer being outside or doing things with my hands instead of putting up with suits and ties.

its sort of like I am an Operation Maintenance Instructor at Miami Dade Transit for the last 15 years, but it doesn't count for much with you guys. Previously was a Bus mechanic for 25 years before that, I had a triple Masters ASE plus some of the automotive certs but am letting them expire because my *** is in DROP ( you know what that is) and I have exactly 27 pay periods left before I cash in my chips... it doesn't really matter.none of this resume stuff matters.... shoot, I have a CDL and train people to get those too.... spent 7 years in a class 7 truck repairing crap in the street. all day in a truck.. so Its not like I'm looking for any advice from anyone on this forum, only thing I am looking for is that one guy who knows more than I do... so far the only one is Trans Engineer.. my ears perk up when he comments. for everyone else on this forum I mostly hear blah blah blah and I like to stir them up. its just a way to kill time and entertain myself.

Back to the subject matter, if you want to put a extra oil filter on that engine, that's up to you.. you and I will both agree that it will not hurt
and I will probably differ on whether you will ever see any benefit.

have fun with it

When I get a spare hour or so I will make a thread on the MBTA Neoplan bus rehab going on, you might find that more interesting than bypass oil filtration....

 

[JR]

so Its not like I'm looking for any advice from anyone on this forum, only thing I am looking for is that one guy who knows more than I do... so far the only one is Trans Engineer.. my ears perk up when he comments. for everyone else on this forum I mostly hear blah blah blah and I like to stir them up. its just a way to kill time and entertain myself.

Sounds like with all that education and experience your time could be much better spent elsewhere rather than "stirring" people up here.

 

[6V92TA]

Sounds like with all that education and experience your time could be much better spent elsewhere rather than "stirring" people up here.
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hey, I paid for a membership, I get to participate too. at least until I get kicked out.

 

[Ram4Sam]

Sounds like with all that education and experience your time could be much better spent elsewhere rather than "stirring" people up here.
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hey, I paid for a membership, I get to participate too. at least until I get kicked out.

It is a shame you choose to cover up and hide all the education and experience you claim to have by acting like a self absorbed douchebag, rather than helping other members out in a useful way. There is a long list the longtime members here can remember, of others like you who show up with this tired act.....thankfully, you will get bored like they did and move on.

Sam

 

[zetatre]

something I've always wondered was why Cummins doesn't offer their combination oil filters for the ISB. we've used these for years on our Cummins ISM's. https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/s...6034AU Venturi Combo Lube Filter Brochure.pdf

They do and I've been using it -> http://a.co/jiwF3zQ Mounts right up.

 

[Newsa]

I noticed a slight bit of fray on the hoses/lines of my amsoil bypass filter. I guess the 6 cyl cummins does a little more vibrating in it's mounts than the old 6 cyl 3.2 liter Isuzu Amigo gasser that I had the same Amsoil bypass installed on.

Went 80k in the old Isuzu before I traded it in with the bypass filter still on it.

Thinking of upgrading the hoses to steel braided. And accidentally bought the hose a little smaller than than the original hose that came with the bypass filter. Instead of the original 13/32" ID hose, I accidentally bought the .25" ID hose and .25" ID hose connector ends. I bought the hose on eBay and the connector ends were from amsoil (their smallest offering size).

Question: anyone see an issue with using a slightly smaller ID hose on this system. I'm using the BP90 filter.

 

[Lynx0849]

Ok, stupid question time... what’s a bypass filter? Sounds like an oxymoron to me (like jumbo shrimp).


Pro

 

[CMB]

What are the options for the return line? I've seen the fill cap version but is that the only adiquit location?

 

[Newsa]

What are the options for the return line? I've seen the fill cap version but is that the only adiquit location?

I have the fill cap on mine now. On the Isuzu, I punched and tapped a return into the oil pan. Amsoil sells the self tapping hollow bolt. Truthfully, the oil pan on the Isuzu was a thicker and sturdier grade of steel. I would not use the hollow bolt on the isb oil pan

I like the fill cap better. And it is a nice/convenient way to take an oil sample if you want to do an oil analysis.

 

[Newsa]

Ok, stupid question time... what’s a bypass filter? Sounds like an oxymoron to me (like jumbo shrimp).


Pro

A second filter that filters a slower flow of oil.

People like it because it filters particles that will pass right through your OEM full flow filter. A stratopore full flow filter (stratopore is cummins' best filter) will filter particles down to 25 microns. A good bypass filter will remove 99% of the particles that are 1/10 that size (diameter).

A full flow filter has to maintain flow to the turbo, pressurized the oil galley and the cooling ports in the cylinders. So it can't have a slower flow or restrict oil pressure. The bypass is a different line that is lower pressure.

 

[Newsa]

I am replacing the hoses that came with my amsoil bypass filter kit. Replacing them with stainless steel braided and threading them through a (red) insulation tube. I Noticed a bit of chafing on the nylon-braided rubber hose that came with "Amsoil" stamped on the hose and has been on the truck for 3 years.

Just need to go out and get some blue loctite and will finish install this weekend. Had these hoses on an Isuzu Amigo for 80,000 miles with no problem. But the ole Cummins does a lot more shaking in it's mounts..... So it's time for a hose upgrade. For those interested in using the kit's amsoil hose ends, just get the AN5 hose from summit racing