Any Energy Release fans in TDR land?

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Just wondering if anyone out there uses ER?

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, VA Magic Box, Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag- Hytec Cover, 20K Reese. (RV Dealer)

 

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I do

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ER ???

 

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Ditto on the ER???

 

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What the heck is ER?

 

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Magic additives come and go and I have bought my share of them. I had a petroleum engineer introduce me to ER several years ago. Since using the product, it has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. ER is a clear liquid that looks like Karo syrup. It disapates friction by over 70%. It is not instant but takes time, heat and pressure to work. It seeks out friction and heat and eliminates most of it. This is purely a laymens explanation of course and I cannot begin to explain why or how it works. I can only tell you it works and it works great. I and my customers generally pick up a 10% increase in fuel mileage. ER is a small company in Nampa, Idaho. www.energyrelease.com You can treat engins, transmissions, diffs. bearings. Anything where you want to kill wear, friction and heat. To the one that said he was a user: what do you use it in and how did you find out about it? Thanx, Barry

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, VA Magic Box, Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag- Hytec Cover, 20K Reese. (RV Dealer)

 

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Originally posted by Barry:
You can treat engines, transmissions, diffs. bearings. Anything where you want to kill wear, friction and heat.

<font color=blue> Barry, I'm petrochemically challenged #ad
but sure would appreciate any further details you can share with us i. e. has there been any documented reports on the use of ER in trucks using synthetic fluids for instance?




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JMc

2001 Flame Red Sport 3500 QC, 5. 9L 24v Cummins, 4x4 Auto, 3. 54/LSD, 155 inch WB, Agate leather, Camper Special Group, Trailer Tow Group, Sliding Rear Window, Line-X under the rails & underseal, Grover airhorns, Firestone Airbags, RS9000s, Reese Titan class 5 hitch, 60 gallon Aerotank.

 

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John: I am an Amsoil nut. When not available, I use Castrol Syntec. I have always used ER with synthetics. ER is not an oil treatment, nor does it have teflon or resins in the formula. It is a metal treatment. Being petrochemically challenged also, I can't begin to explain it either. I just know it works. The folks at ER are super nice and can answer your ?s. Another product they have is their High Temp. bearing grease that is laced with ER. It is the ooeyist, gooeyist stuff you will ever pack your wheel bearings with. But it will STOP bearing troubles cold. I carry the ER grease with me when I go to pick up RVs for my dealership. If I get a "hot wheel" on a coach, I just slip some oooey gooey in it and no more hot wheel.

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, VA Magic Box, Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag- Hytec Cover, Energy Release, 20K Reese. (RV Dealer)

 

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Barry. . I have been using ER for about two weeks now. . I have noticed the engine seems to run a-lot smoother and I swear my EGT's are lower 50-75 degrees?? Did you notice any EGT drop? If so let me know, I don't think my guage broke!! Haven't checked mileage yet, but if I correct lowering the EGT's was worth the $$$$. I found out about it from a friend and have purchased it at a Checkers auto part store for $12. 99/ 8oz. bottle. You need 2oz. / qt. of oil so I put in 3-bottles. . Not cheap! You only need to put in 1oz. / qt. on the next oil change. Barry... if you use with synthetic oils what amout do you use? It would be cheaper because of the extended use with synthetic oils.

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2001 HO, 6-sp, Quad Cab 4x4, 3. 54 Anti-Spin axle, Camper Special Group, 2"lift, 4" exhaust w/5" Monster Tip, BFG's tires 312x75x16's, K&N Airfilter, pod gauges, VA-CPU, PS boost module & elbow, Line X box, dimond plated tool box & rails, NorthWestern custom rocker panel with everything but leather!!!!( and maybe a warranty)!

 

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Heberman: EGTs will go down because of the loss of friction in the motor. Some people are dissappointed when they do not see "instant" results. As you can see after about a hundred miles, it just runs better and better. I too follow the 2oz. intial and the 1oz thereafter per qt. It typically will lower driveline temps. 20 degrees. I just ordered 4 gallons and it ran me less than $60 a gallon. Order direct, it's a lot cheaper. PS: Put 2 oz. in the power steering pump.

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, VA Magic Box, Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag- Hytec Cover, Energy Release, 20K Reese. (RV Dealer)

 

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OK guys, I know that you are all looking for the additive that will reduce wear in your engines. IT DOES NOT ON THIS EXIST. I have looked into all kinds of oils and additives for over 21 years and have lots of them tested. I believe the ER has Chlorinated Paraffins. Although these companies can show you a dog and pony show that looks like by adding some simple chemistry to an oil you can reduce wear by a bunch. This test is not an ASTM test nor does it show what really happens inside your engine.

The Chlorine reacts with moisture and heat to produce Hydrochloric acid and will become acidic to the light metals in your engine (the lead in your bearings will go first) You should be aware of the negative effects of using this kind of additive in your engine.

The chlorine by itself will reduce wear but will have to come in contact with the moisture and heat that will harm your engine by turning into hydrochloric acid.

Sincerely, Kevin

 

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Kevin: Thanx for the reply. The guy that introduced me to ER was a petrochem engineer for Dow in Freeport, Tx for 30 years. When I met him, we were having dinner in Galveston. After he retired, he owned and operated a large lube and oil change biz. During the course of our dinner conversation, I asked if he had discovered any outstanding products. He said there were two: Energy Release and Royal Purple Oils. I have used both and have not been disappointed if either one. Opinions are like belly buttons... . everybodys got one.

 

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Barry. . Thanks for the feed back on the EGT's. I"ve also noticed the turbo cools down much faster then before. Until I hear of any bad results I plan to continue to use ER. This week I will be installing 275's RV injectors and taking a long trip down south. I'll pay more attention to the mileage thing. As you said it seems to get better with time #ad
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2001 HO, 6-sp, Quad Cab 4x4, 3. 54 Anti-Spin axle, Camper Special Group, 2"lift, 4" exhaust w/5" Monster Tip, BFG's tires 312x75x16's, K&N Airfilter, pod gauges, VA-CPU, PS boost module & elbow, Line X box, dimond plated tool box & rails, NorthWestern custom rocker panel with everything but leather!!!!( and maybe a warranty)!

 

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Polydyn's TX7 does not have any chloronated parafins at all been using it since about 50,000 miles, good product #ad

Just my 2 cents.

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95' 2500 standard trans. 2wd reg cab 120,000 miles bone stock but not for long I hope.

 

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Barry,
This is not my belly button. It comes from oil analysis that shows chlorine content in ER and an article out of Lubes-N-Greases October 1999 Vol 5 Issue 11 that says the oils that use Chlorinated parraffins show high bearing mg. loss as compared to oil by itself. They show pictures of the lead in the bearings under a microscope and you can see for yourself. Articles in Lubes-N-Greases are not written by average guys. They are written by and researched by highly technical people in the business of chemistry and tribology, and those are very big belly buttons.

Sincerely, Kevin

 

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Some folks are reporting "seat of the pants" perceived improvements; some are reporting harder data and measured benefits like lower temps in the driveline. But if this product has the potential to cut the life of my engine from the 500k+ I'm expecting to something less than that, then for me it is not the favored path.
PROPOSAL: How about one of the ER fans submitting an oil sample for analysis after 5k or 10k miles, and let's all have a look-see at the results? (Or do we even need this? Kevin has already provided references for an article where this was done!) We'll probably still reach different conclusions, but all of us will be making more informed decisions!
P. S. - Whether you agree or disagree with Oil Man, I'd like to say "thanks" for posting an opposing opinion. What makes this board worth looking at is getting as many of the pros and cons on the table as possible.

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Ok I just went out and got ER although I just sent in a sample 500 miles ago, I'll send in another in 1000 miles and then list the results.

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97 2500 Club 4X4 3. 54, Forrest Green/Driftwood, LSD 5 speed, & Psychotty Air System, TST #11 all the way forward, AFC spring kit, Geno's Exhaust Blanket, TST EGT gauge & 0-60 boost gauge in A Pillar, Cat-be-gone, 4" Dynomax Bullet muffler, Crome 4" turn down, AmsOil Through out, Geno's trans filter kit, AmsOil Bypass system, Lund Winter front, Leer Cab Level Shell Driftwood , 255/85R16 Big O ATs, Dyno'd 342 HP *NRA/USPSA member and proud of it*

 

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I've got to go with Oil Man on this one - there has to be a trade off somewhere - probably in shortened engine life. As far as the oil analysis goes it won't do much good unless you have a baseline - that - is previous analysis history to compare. I have done analysis on all my oil changes and would probably be a good candidate but I don't want to take a chance. I will stick with my proven Amsoil HD1540 marine diesel oil every 6000 miles and an analysis to let me know about potential problems. My old first gen "takes a licken and keeps on tickin" 122K +.
Good Luck
Happy Trails

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1993 250 4X2 - Banks Power Pack, BD Power Injectors, K&N Air Filter, 6 gauges and tweaked
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I added 12 oz. of ER (Energy Release) to the engine Monday night and have hauled a back hoe two night this week and I am noticing slightly lower temp. Coolant and oil. An the engine seems to be a bit quieter. It's going in the transmission and transfer case next.

 

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I`m a big Amsoil user too.

Maybe the high TBN [12] of the Marine 15W-40 will neutralize the hydrochloric acid created by Energy Release? #ad


I ordered a quart too.

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Bill R
94 2500 SLT 4x4 5 Speed, 3. 54 LS, JRE 4" exhaust, Autometer Pyro, Boost & Water temp gauges, Bosch 215 HP injectors, Timing @ 14. 7 º, JRE Stage III #4 plate 270/675, AFC spring kit, Scotty Air, Bully Dog Propane Injection, Roadmaster Active Suspension, Optima Red Tops, Geno`s Exhaust Blanket,Espar Heater (won it!), Synthetic lubes throughout.



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