Any news on availability of 2014 Ram 2500

[Wingate]

Ive found several articles on changes being made to the 2500 Rams, but I cant seem to find a date on when they will be available in dealership showrooms.

Looking to buy a 2014 Ram 2500, loaded, 6. 4L HEMI, 4:10 gears, Aisin trans. with the air suspension. Im done with diesels until they can be built WITHOUT EGR.

 

[Missouri Mule]

You do know that gas engines including hemi's have EGR. What I've been reading about the 2013's, that polution componemts have been improved.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

The 2013 Cummins egr has no maintenance interval, unike the earlier ones. They, along with the gassers, will continue with egr until the greenie politicians are voted out--not likely to happen. Cummins has revised the engines a lot to minimize soot production, not just contain it. Fuel mileage is way up. And, by the way, you cannot get an Aisin with the gasser you plan to buy. It only comes on the 3500 with 385 HP Cummins. Go ahead and buy that gasser. Come west, such as climbing west of Denver and watch your unloaded gasser get passed by a Cummins pulling a big trailer. Been there, done that.

 

[Bill Stockard]

Ive found several articles on changes being made to the 2500 Rams, but I cant seem to find a date on when they will be available in dealership showrooms.
Looking to buy a 2014 Ram 2500, loaded, 6. 4L HEMI, 4:10 gears, Aisin trans. with the air suspension. Im done with diesels until they can be built WITHOUT EGR.

Hey Wingate,

You can wait until Fiat forces Ram to install Fiat/Iveco diesels in Ram trucks. The don't use EGR in their diesels nor is it necessary to do forced regenerations to clean the DPF. . :-laf

Bill

 

[MelvinPierce]

Guys that ordered '14 2500's are reporting that they are being shipped, but I know of no one getting one delivered yet. Same with the 3500's. My 3500 '14 is scheduled to be delivered to dealer friday, 9/13. Two days out! Wahoo!

 

[rscurtis]

Hey Wingate,

You can wait until Fiat forces Ram to install Fiat/Iveco diesels in Ram trucks. The don't use EGR in their diesels nor is it necessary to do forced regenerations to clean the DPF. . :-laf

Bill

That may be the case in agricultural engines, I've seen some FPT engines in new tractors, they have SCR but no DPF or EGR. Don't count on that for on-highway engines, and I'd rather doubt that FPT is ahead of Cummins on their emissions strategy. Joe is correct about the Hemi- wait until you see how fast it can wash down a tank of gas.

 

[rrl989]

Appears that the Aisin is at least available with the 6. 4 Hemi on the 3500 Chassis Cab, sure would be nice if they make it available to the 2500/3500 crowd.

"Come west, such as climbing west of Denver and watch your unloaded gasser get passed by a Cummins pulling a big trailer. Been there, done that"
I saw and posted a video with the MY2013 385/850 4. 10 CTD towing a 17K Trailer up the Eisenhower Pass, and the local traffic could surely outrun the CTD towing, so I'd bet an empty 410HP 3500 would outrun a towing CTD under any condition.

 

[JR]

Here's a little food for thought on gas vs diesel..... We did a fourwheeling trip to West Virginia in May. My 98 with my 22 ft tilt trailer with 5- 600-700 pound quads on the trailer. Trailer empty weighs 2800 lbs, figure another 3000lbs in quads. I have a cap I throw on occasionally for road trips and such, with a locking tailgate. My bed was loaded to the hilt with tools, spare parts, and spare wheels/tires, and gas. (Yes were pretty hard on equipment ) So all in all, combined weight of around 6500-7000 lbs total, a meager load by todays standards. One guy rode with me while the other 3 rode in my buddies 2012 Chevy 2500 HD with the 6. 0 gasser. He had 3 people in his truck (crew cab) and their personal belongings in the bed. That was it, nothing more. He followed me the whole way down and back just to keep an eye on the machines and tie downs, so he drove the same speed I did. Everytime we stopped for fuel I was within one gallon of him. Every single time, no exxaggeration. I averaged 12-14 mpg on each fill up, depending on where we were at. I would have to imagine a new diesel would get the same or slightly better, with ALOT more power to spare. West Virginia has some pretty decent hills, nothing radical, 5-6 % grades for a few miles at a time on the freeway, on the back roads they tend to get alot more radical in places.



As long as I have a need for a full sized truck, I don't think I could imagine owning anything other than a diesel.

BTW, my friend (the chevy owner) was not nearly as impressed as I was...

 

[Kirwin]

Appears that the Aisin is at least available with the 6. 4 Hemi on the 3500 Chassis Cab, sure would be nice if they make it available to the 2500/3500 crowd.

"Come west, such as climbing west of Denver and watch your unloaded gasser get passed by a Cummins pulling a big trailer. Been there, done that"
I saw and posted a video with the MY2013 385/850 4. 10 CTD towing a 17K Trailer up the Eisenhower Pass, and the local traffic could surely outrun the CTD towing, so I'd bet an empty 410HP 3500 would outrun a towing CTD under any condition.

So if your going to compare a towing CTD against a non-towing gas engine Ram what's the point? A non-towing Prius would make it look bad (like a towing Prius is something you might actually see). If you want a gas engine, get a 1500. It will do anything you need. If you want a heavy duty truck, get a Cummins powered Ram and the best transmission you can and be done with it. My $0. 02. Ken Irwin

 

[Wingate]

You do know that gas engines including hemi's have EGR. What I've been reading about the 2013's, that polution componemts have been improved.

Sorry, should have been more clear about that. Tier4 can be achieved WITHOUT the use of EGR coolers/EGR. . its already being done. I understand that all modern gasoline engines have been using egr for years.

 

[Wingate]

And, by the way, you cannot get an Aisin with the gasser you plan to buy. It only comes on the 3500 with 385 HP

I thought that was weird that it seems to offer it with the HEMI, maybe Im looking at it wrong but I thought the ASC69RC was the Aisin Transmission??? The 66RFE was the baseline Dodge transmission for gasoline engines, and the 68RFE was the Dodge 6 speed for the diesels? According to this article, the ASC69RC is an option for the 6. 4L HEMI engine.

http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/2014-heavy-duty.html

 

[Wingate]

Go ahead and buy that gasser. Come west, such as climbing west of Denver and watch your unloaded gasser get passed by a Cummins pulling a big trailer. Been there, done that.

Theres not alot out there that Im interested in taking a big heavy trailer to see!. I'll just buy some calendars!.

But seriously, if I ended up in a situation as you are describing, Ill take the time/mileage penalty for that brief moment in time vs. the fuel costs, initial costs, maintenance costs, repair costs associated with having a new diesel. You are correct though, the fig leaf wearing, berry eating PETA lovers have ruined the efficiency of todays modern diesel engines.

I am NOT getting rid of my beloved 06 model, it spends its days resting leisurley under a carport, only geting out to haul me to get a haircut, quick trip to the bank, or to haul the camper to the lake... . Just gonna get the gasser for creature comforts and backup for the 06 model.

 

[Wingate]

Hey Wingate,



You can wait until Fiat forces Ram to install Fiat/Iveco diesels in Ram trucks. The don't use EGR in their diesels nor is it necessary to do forced regenerations to clean the DPF. . :-laf



Bill

Bill, yeah CAT is doing it on several engines. Anybody know what AUDI/Volkswagen is doing?

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Allpar is usually right. I would be surprised however to see any gas engine with the Aisin. They don't make enough torque to hurt the Chrysler boxes. If true, it is probably to get PTO capability that Ram feels chassis cab buyers will insist upon having.

 

[dieselpowered]

Here is a link to the CC,Rambodybuilderguide. http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2014/docs/cc/dddpts.pdf

 

[Wingate]

Allpar is usually right. I would be surprised however to see any gas engine with the Aisin. They don't make enough torque to hurt the Chrysler boxes. If true, it is probably to get PTO capability that Ram feels chassis cab buyers will insist upon having.

I agree, strange if they offer it in a 2500 gas engine but not in a 2500 diesel... but stranger things have happened.

 

[rrl989]

I agree, strange if they offer it in a 2500 gas engine but not in a 2500 diesel... but stranger things have happened.

The Aisin option with the 6. 4 Hemi is only available in the 2014 Chassis Cabs.

 

[Wingate]

The Aisin option with the 6. 4 Hemi is only available in the 2014 Chassis Cabs.

Yep... finally muddled my way thru the link posted above and determined the same thing.
Stopped in the local dealership today inquiring about availability of a 2014 gasser with air ride and was told it would probably be mid-year before all of the new options would make it to dealership showrooms.
As a side note, they were making more of a scene about trying to get my 06 model from me vs. trying to sell me something already on the lot.

 

[NIsaacs]

The Aisin option with the 6. 4 Hemi is only available in the 2014 Chassis Cabs.

Yes, but it is the AS66RC not the AS69RC of the Diesel. With left or right hand PTO rated at 45 hp/250 tq.



Nick

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

AFAIK, the only 66 is the Mopar 66RFE for gas engines. The only Aisin offered now is the AS69RC. The 69 has a higher torque rating for the PTO than the old AS68RC.