Do NOT put any rise into the breather hose. If you cause any kind of restriction to this hose you are likely to blow the side cover gasket which is very difficult to replace.
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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Anybody had the crankcase breather fix done
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Do NOT put any rise into the breather hose. If you cause any kind of restriction to this hose you are likely to blow the side cover gasket which is very difficult to replace.
Do you know if this warranty applies to a 98. 5. Thanks, Bill.
I'm just throwing out my idea here for some other inputs. Plus I need to live up to my name.
I'm thinking of getting a breather/overflow tank from Summit Racing (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=27581)
and running a -6AN line back down to the oil pan. This will provide the pressure vent required, keep the engine/radiator clean and return the oil to the pan. For anyone regular exceeding the 22degree limit you could run a -8AN or -10AN line to the pan to prevent loosing that extra quart of oil. Total price would be under $100, you could even go under $50 with a plastic bottle vice aluminum.
Anyone got any other ideas?
-Matt
I'm thinking of getting a breather/overflow tank from Summit Racing (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=27581)
and running a -6AN line back down to the oil pan. This will provide the pressure vent required, keep the engine/radiator clean and return the oil to the pan. For anyone regular exceeding the 22degree limit you could run a -8AN or -10AN line to the pan to prevent loosing that extra quart of oil. Total price would be under $100, you could even go under $50 with a plastic bottle vice aluminum.
Anyone got any other ideas?
-Matt
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Dodge kit... not needed...
All 12V engines and some early 24V engines have the breather installed in the tappet cover on the injection pump side of the engine.
$400 for the Dodge kit seems WAY too high... All you need to do is go to Cummins and order a tappet cover & gasket for a 94-98 12V. You'll need the cap & gasket that coveres the injection pump gear, which the where the old breather is located. I am sure the parts are pricey, but they cannot be anywhere near the $400 from Chrysler...
All 12V engines and some early 24V engines have the breather installed in the tappet cover on the injection pump side of the engine.
$400 for the Dodge kit seems WAY too high... All you need to do is go to Cummins and order a tappet cover & gasket for a 94-98 12V. You'll need the cap & gasket that coveres the injection pump gear, which the where the old breather is located. I am sure the parts are pricey, but they cannot be anywhere near the $400 from Chrysler...
If you don't want to go that route, Walker has decreased their price on the AirSep pretty drastically. It's about $350 now. Not too bad, the only hard part is replacing the oil return elbow on the block. As soon as I change my oil, I'm going to look at my intake and see if it has collected any oil or not.
Well, after all of the research and comments from others that have talked to DC about this problem, I examined my options and decided to 'push' the issue. Keep in mind I have not yet talked to my dealer about this problem.
The next step was to find a steep enough hill, (in Minnesota, all covered with snow). Of course there are plenty of hills like that, and luckily we've got one out on the farm, but it was inaccessible from the top, so I had to back up it. I measured the angle before hand and found it to be 24 degrees - should be enough. I backed up onto it, sat there for a few seconds with the window open and raised the RPMs up to about 1200. After a few seconds I could hear the oil hitting the fan, spraying it all over the engine compartment. I didn't know how fast the oil was coming out, so I figured I would wait about 30 seconds or so. After about 20 seconds, maybe a bit more, I saw the oil pressure guage start to waver, so I let her roll down off the hill, just to see the oil pressure drop to zero
momentarily, then pop back up to normal as I got back onto level ground. Of course this tripped the Check Guages Light and the wierd part was that the voltmeter dropped to zero also.
I shut down the engine and popped the hood to survey the mess. Let's just say that I won't have to worry too much about rust on the front end of the frame, steering, suspension, and front axle from our famous Minnesota Road Salt. Everything is COVERED with oil underneith, and the fan, front of engine, and everything else under the hood have varying amounts of oil on them. Naturally, there was a pretty good sized area sprayed with oil on the ground, too.
After letting it sit for a few minutes, I pulled the dipstick to find very little oil on it. Luckily had oil with me, and gave my thirsty girl a drink of some much needed Engine Vitalizing Fluid. Then some more... and some more... . and some more... . next thing you know the gallon jug was empty :--) but the dipstick now read halfway between full and add.
After starting her back up, the voltage came back to normal and I didn't have the Check Guages light, so all was good there, then headed back to the house.
I called my dealer, told them of my problem, and they said "Bring it in, we'll have a look at it" so they are going to have a look at it tomorrow. I then also told them that I did some research and located a TSB on the problem, and they inquired of the TSB number and looked it up. They responded that it looks like it will be covered under warranty, but they need to have a look first, so tomorrow should provide some valuable information.
What it all boils down to is this: If you are on a steep enough hill, and the RPMS are up a bit, the CTD will pump the oil out FAST! Maybe I could use it as a new method for speedy oil changes!... . NOT!
I'll post further details as this progresses, so stay tuned for ... ... The Rest of the Story... ...
The next step was to find a steep enough hill, (in Minnesota, all covered with snow). Of course there are plenty of hills like that, and luckily we've got one out on the farm, but it was inaccessible from the top, so I had to back up it. I measured the angle before hand and found it to be 24 degrees - should be enough. I backed up onto it, sat there for a few seconds with the window open and raised the RPMs up to about 1200. After a few seconds I could hear the oil hitting the fan, spraying it all over the engine compartment. I didn't know how fast the oil was coming out, so I figured I would wait about 30 seconds or so. After about 20 seconds, maybe a bit more, I saw the oil pressure guage start to waver, so I let her roll down off the hill, just to see the oil pressure drop to zero
momentarily, then pop back up to normal as I got back onto level ground. Of course this tripped the Check Guages Light and the wierd part was that the voltmeter dropped to zero also. I shut down the engine and popped the hood to survey the mess. Let's just say that I won't have to worry too much about rust on the front end of the frame, steering, suspension, and front axle from our famous Minnesota Road Salt. Everything is COVERED with oil underneith, and the fan, front of engine, and everything else under the hood have varying amounts of oil on them. Naturally, there was a pretty good sized area sprayed with oil on the ground, too.
After letting it sit for a few minutes, I pulled the dipstick to find very little oil on it. Luckily had oil with me, and gave my thirsty girl a drink of some much needed Engine Vitalizing Fluid. Then some more... and some more... . and some more... . next thing you know the gallon jug was empty :--) but the dipstick now read halfway between full and add.
After starting her back up, the voltage came back to normal and I didn't have the Check Guages light, so all was good there, then headed back to the house.
I called my dealer, told them of my problem, and they said "Bring it in, we'll have a look at it" so they are going to have a look at it tomorrow. I then also told them that I did some research and located a TSB on the problem, and they inquired of the TSB number and looked it up. They responded that it looks like it will be covered under warranty, but they need to have a look first, so tomorrow should provide some valuable information.
What it all boils down to is this: If you are on a steep enough hill, and the RPMS are up a bit, the CTD will pump the oil out FAST! Maybe I could use it as a new method for speedy oil changes!... . NOT!
I'll post further details as this progresses, so stay tuned for ... ... The Rest of the Story... ...
Went to the dealer today and let them have a look at my mobile oil well and they agreed, I've got a problem! :{
As it turns out, they have ordered the parts and will be doing the fix when the parts arrive, which should be next week sometime. All covered under warranty, too.
No need to :-{} or #@$%! either!
As it turns out, they have ordered the parts and will be doing the fix when the parts arrive, which should be next week sometime. All covered under warranty, too.
No need to :-{} or #@$%! either!
I had it done on my 01 HO about 1. 5 months ago, and I am second guessing it now. I too was concerned about losing a lot of oil when I play in the mountains and thought better safe than sorry. The kit was back ordered for about 3 weeks. It took almost a full day to convert, luckily (?) the truck was in for 3 other service jobs anyway--I try to group all of them, there are so many.
It was covered 100% by the DC warranty with no hassle, but I think my dealer is afraid of me 'cuz I have called DC 3 times to get what they call, with a straight face, "customer care".
Anyway, now the stupid thing is dripping a small amount of oil from the breather hose onto my driveway everyday and the mechanic claims this is normal. Given the track record of my truck so far, it probably is. I have decided that my truck is homesick and wants to stay at the dealer more than it does with me.
still stock (gotta keep that warranty good--I need it) 01 HO
It was covered 100% by the DC warranty with no hassle, but I think my dealer is afraid of me 'cuz I have called DC 3 times to get what they call, with a straight face, "customer care".
Anyway, now the stupid thing is dripping a small amount of oil from the breather hose onto my driveway everyday and the mechanic claims this is normal. Given the track record of my truck so far, it probably is. I have decided that my truck is homesick and wants to stay at the dealer more than it does with me.
still stock (gotta keep that warranty good--I need it) 01 HO
This is a bit long, but makes for an interesting story:
Well, the dealer called yesterday and told me that my parts were in. They had an opening for me this evening (my dealer's Service Department is open until 2 AM) and I drove over there right after work, arriving at a little after 4. They got at it within about 20 minutes, and I headed over to a restaurant nearby for dinner. My wife had other things going on, and it would have been about 8:30 this evening before she could have picked me up, so I decided I would just wait for the truck.
Had dinner, did some shopping, took a walk on a nice trail that goes by right behind the dealer, and came back about 7 PM. Sat and watched TV in the lounge, and about 8:30 the service manager told me it would be another 2 hours or so. About 9 PM I went over to the restaurant for coffee and pie, then went for a walk on the trail again, but the other direction this time. The trail follows an old railroad bed and passes mostly through wooded areas, and it was in the 40's here today, so it was a great evening walk.
Got back to the dealer about 11, and they had the breather and my oil change done by about 11:30. It took longer than any of us expected, but that seems to be normal for this repair.
Here's where I've really got to give my dealer some credit: They gave me the oil change for FREE (totally unexpected) for my 'inconvenience' of having to wait so long. I pointed out to them that it was not necessary, as I had a relaxing and enjoyable evening - a definite change from my usual routine.
Thus far I have been super satisfied with this dealer all the way around. Twice I've gotten complimentary fuel fillup vouchers: once when I bought the truck, and once for stopping by to sign a sale document that was overlooked when we first did the paperwork. When I bought the truck, I was given a card that's good for 1/2 price oil changes for 5 years from the date I purchased the truck, and now I got one for free. Keep in mind, I have NO connections with this dealer, and had never done business with them before I purchased my '01 Ram, but I think there may be a few people in this area that might also enjoy the service experience there. So for the benefit of those other local Dodge owners that might be interested, that dealer is (drum roll please): Town and Country Dodge in Hopkins, Minnesota. Great people to deal with! Oo.
Well, the dealer called yesterday and told me that my parts were in. They had an opening for me this evening (my dealer's Service Department is open until 2 AM) and I drove over there right after work, arriving at a little after 4. They got at it within about 20 minutes, and I headed over to a restaurant nearby for dinner. My wife had other things going on, and it would have been about 8:30 this evening before she could have picked me up, so I decided I would just wait for the truck.
Had dinner, did some shopping, took a walk on a nice trail that goes by right behind the dealer, and came back about 7 PM. Sat and watched TV in the lounge, and about 8:30 the service manager told me it would be another 2 hours or so. About 9 PM I went over to the restaurant for coffee and pie, then went for a walk on the trail again, but the other direction this time. The trail follows an old railroad bed and passes mostly through wooded areas, and it was in the 40's here today, so it was a great evening walk.
Got back to the dealer about 11, and they had the breather and my oil change done by about 11:30. It took longer than any of us expected, but that seems to be normal for this repair.
Here's where I've really got to give my dealer some credit: They gave me the oil change for FREE (totally unexpected) for my 'inconvenience' of having to wait so long. I pointed out to them that it was not necessary, as I had a relaxing and enjoyable evening - a definite change from my usual routine.
Thus far I have been super satisfied with this dealer all the way around. Twice I've gotten complimentary fuel fillup vouchers: once when I bought the truck, and once for stopping by to sign a sale document that was overlooked when we first did the paperwork. When I bought the truck, I was given a card that's good for 1/2 price oil changes for 5 years from the date I purchased the truck, and now I got one for free. Keep in mind, I have NO connections with this dealer, and had never done business with them before I purchased my '01 Ram, but I think there may be a few people in this area that might also enjoy the service experience there. So for the benefit of those other local Dodge owners that might be interested, that dealer is (drum roll please): Town and Country Dodge in Hopkins, Minnesota. Great people to deal with! Oo.
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Terry, thanks for mentioning the dealers name. My Dodge dealer here in Hastings was recently purchased by the local Ford dealer.
The few times (twice)I've had work done the mechanic was nice but not very knowledgeable about diesels while the service manager didn't seem to know what a diesel is. Even though Town and Country is 35-40 miles away I'd rather have some who knows what their doing work on my truck. So far so good. I've got 48K on it and no problems
The few times (twice)I've had work done the mechanic was nice but not very knowledgeable about diesels while the service manager didn't seem to know what a diesel is. Even though Town and Country is 35-40 miles away I'd rather have some who knows what their doing work on my truck. So far so good. I've got 48K on it and no problems
Walker Air-Sep
This ahould get some interesting reply's. but this is all my own feelings. First I don't like to ruin the enviroment any more than it is. Runing your oil to the ground is just like throwing garbage out your window except worse. I bought a walker air-sep direct from walker.
First it does not get oil in the intercooler like someone has posted before. It eliminated the oil mess problem for good. I now have a "closed" system which will have less of a chance to develop future oil leaks. The smell I used to notice in my cab is gone,and my engine is clean. Why spend all this money on a truck, and complain about a $365. 00 kit?
Rick
This ahould get some interesting reply's. but this is all my own feelings. First I don't like to ruin the enviroment any more than it is. Runing your oil to the ground is just like throwing garbage out your window except worse. I bought a walker air-sep direct from walker.
First it does not get oil in the intercooler like someone has posted before. It eliminated the oil mess problem for good. I now have a "closed" system which will have less of a chance to develop future oil leaks. The smell I used to notice in my cab is gone,and my engine is clean. Why spend all this money on a truck, and complain about a $365. 00 kit?
Rick
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