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Anybody paying $6/gal yet

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Yup,

Speculators are 90% of the problem. (Although the oil companies hire an army of accountants to make some of the profit look like legitimate business cost)



The speculators started it. But, the Saudi's allowed the cost to skyrocket. They could have dome something to nip it in the bud, but they didnt. I think we backed the wrong side in the first gulf war.



TRat
 
Yup,
Speculators are 90% of the problem. (Although the oil companies hire an army of accountants to make some of the profit look like legitimate business cost)

The speculators started it. But, the Saudi's allowed the cost to skyrocket. They could have dome something to nip it in the bud, but they didnt. I think we backed the wrong side in the first gulf war.

TRat

I need an education here. Who exactly are these "speculators"? What should they be doing differently? And not to defend the Saudi's, but if someone is in business to sell a product, why would they not want the cost of their product to "skyrocket"? I know if I were selling widgets and the price was skyrocketing, I'd be delighted, especially if I had nothing to do with the price rise.

Should we expect the Saudi's to pump more oil in order to lower the price? And I'm still struggling to figure out why everyone's mad at the Saudi's when most of our imported oil comes from Canada.
 
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saw it for $5. 10 on thw way to work today.....



kenny61, where is that station?



The Manhattan station I cited in the $5/gal thread is holding @ $4. 99. Just a little while ago I paid $4. 13 on the NJTP and the jock told me price just came down from $4. 19 this morning. Gas was up though.



I did read here (DRUDGE REPORT 2008®) that oil could be $200/bbl and gas could be $7/gal. :{#@$%!
 
its on 9a in Elmsford NY (westchester county) its 4. 89 down the road and I got it for 4. 69 just over the border in putnam county
 
If you think the mortgage crisis is bad, wait until the credit card crisis hits! This country is carrying a HUGE credit card debt. If people stop paying their cards, banks will fail, etc. I am not a doom and gloom kind of guy, but I think this is going to get a whole lot worse before (if) it gets better. The only way we are going to crawl out of this is if we drill on our own lands. "Green" fuel is great, but there isn't the infrastructure to support it. No one will be able to sell lots of green cars until the infrastructure is in place. If companies can't afford to truck the raw materials to build the infrastructure, the whole thing is a mute point. I didn't think I'd be saying this, but we need to get our troops home, shore up the porous borders, get the hell out of the UN, and start becoming self-sufficient again. Trade with China needs to slow or stop. Lets face it-we don't need 10,000,000,000 little Chinese toys at McD's and Burger King. We don't need all the little crappy toys in the grocery store. That country will poison us all and just come ashore on the west coast.



Oh, and I haven't seen $5/gallon yet. :-laf
 
Financial Terrorism

It's quite simple:



I call it "Financial Terrorism"!



For fuel costs set daily from a lower priced chain check out this link. They have always updated their prices on the net at 6AM Central time but now you can not depend on the web price and pump price being totally accurate... usually within 2 cents though!



I use the results to see what the lower prices should be in the area concerned.



What I have found interesting is a similar pattern that occurred in last years fuel spike. That is, that the states that had the lowest fuel taxes are not the lower priced fuels anymore and within their state the different city areas are also not how they are when fuel prices were stable. Examples: Wyoming has one of the lowest diesel taxes but now their fuel prices are very close to the rest of the country with some exceptions of course. Cheyenne was always the lowest in the state but now Gillette is. And the other 3 Flying J's west of Cheyenne are only a couple of cents difference! Georgia is they same way but the overall pricing is much like FL, which was usually about 25 cents higher, and the rest of the country. The west coast except for WA isn't all that much higher than the rest of country. Do any of you recall the same pattern last year during the spike? The terrorism I mention is not just from the world oil suppliers but it must also be domestically as well. The whole country is going to go broke, if not most of the world, where we won't have any munitions left, food, etc. , except for the oil supplying countries! Better start growing your own food, get a horse, and an AK47!



I haven't the answer but that's not my job... it's Washington's I suppose... but my opinion of them handling anything is like the difference of technology of the early century compared to today... they just don't have a clue and act like Keystone Cops... like chickens running around with their heads cut off... like the mentality of 13 year olds... it's like they are always trying and always getting error! Maybe to much drugs! Enough, I got off the subject and am getting myself upset, sorry!



Peter
 
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Not to hijack the thread, but I went out to do some chores, and decided to check the windage in the vehicles. Just as I was bringing out the hose, I had a thought about jacking up the pressures in an effort to lower fuel consumption. I usually run 45# all around. I chose to go max all around, 80# in all positions. My overhead was pretty steady at 17. 7 MPG for a while. One round trip (50 miles of combo driving) and the econ went to 18. 0 MPG. I find the overhead to be real accurate for me. It rides hard now, but I'm going with it.
 
I just saw a gas station sign on the tv news advertising diesel at %5. 55/gal.

Im sure glad I made my trip to Alaska last year instead of putting it off until this year as I almost did.



TRat
 
Like ole Rush Limbaugh says it will get there. Then the people in the oil business will have a product that most can't pay for so they have no use for it. Walla you have a product worth nothing.
 
Yeah it will get there when a hurricane hits the gulf and all of a sudden we're paying $6, 7, 8, $9/gallon. Then everyone and everything comes to a giant grinding halt.
 
I just filled up with diesel at our local Smith's Super Market fuel station for $4. 009 per gal. I used my Fresh Value card, which will discount me $0,10 per gal. Thanks to my wife because she buys groceries there. Everywhere else in town, diesel is $4. 259. I wonder how much it will be at Smith's tomorrow?
 
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