Anyone burning crude oil in their diesel?

[Blakers]

A friend of mine has a friend who has been successfully burning straight Pennsylvania crude oil in his 12 valve CTD. My friend is thinking of trying it in his. No tax and it's not red (it's green).



I know they used to make one-lunger oil field engines that burned crude oil.



Anyone else tried burning straight crude oil in their truck?

 

[Headshot zod]

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[Blakers]

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Why is that?

 

[nickleinonen]

is he burning actual crude oil [non refined straight out of the ground stuff] or heavy fuel oil [bunker C]???



bunker C will burn in a diesel just fine as long as it is warm enough to flow properly.

 

[Blakers]

Crude oil right from the well. It's similar in viscosity to #2 fuel oil, but has some light ends that evaporate quickly if exposed to the air.

 

[Will24]

Not running crude, but the topic definitely caught my interest!





Here's my question, isn't the evaporative element of crude explosive?



-Will

 

[HEMI®Dart]

How deep do you need to drill to hit oil?

 

[JR2]

How deep do you need to drill to hit oil?

I got me a big dewalt drill and some of them thar long flex type bits - I am going to go drill for oil... woo woo







I have seen various samples of crude oil here in AK. Some of it looks like it might be best for oiling a gravel road, but some of it looked like gas and two stroke oil mixed. I don't thinnk any of it would work well in our trucks.



Maybe some one could do a "mythbusters" type deal and tell us what happens.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Seems like potential for lots of unwanted nasties in unrefined crude oils - but I suppose if you factor in the cost of the crude vs pump prices, the savings might well offset increased mechanical problems and expense...

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

I know of a local duramax that burns his used motor oil. Doesnt seem to have any problems doing that.



Straight out of the ground, not many of us have access to that, at least around my neck of the woods.

 

[Blakers]

Not running crude, but the topic definitely caught my interest!





Here's my question, isn't the evaporative element of crude explosive?



-Will

Yes, you get a lot of light ends (fractions that evaporate off the crude oil on their own) that are very explosive. But, if kept in the mix, they may not hurt anything in a diesel engine.



To tell you the truth, I don't know. I told him to be sure to filter it very good before burning it in his truck.



There are a lot of different crude oils around the country and around the world - some are heavy like asphalt, some are like motor oil viscosity, and some are thin like fuel oil. The parafin based oils such as Pennsylvania should be better to burn in a diesel.



Now drain oil would have lots of nasty stuff that can do harm to an engine or fuel system - lots of disolved solids and things that will come out of the oil when it is burned.



Blake

 

[Blakers]

How deep do you need to drill to hit oil?

Depends where you are. Most of the wells in the old Pa, WV, and Ohio oilfields are in the 800 - 1500 foot range. Most of the deeper and newer oil and gas wells in this part of the country are around 5,000 ft.



My friend drills offshore down to 12,000 - 15,000 ft and more.



Blake

 

[Blakers]

Another crude oil burner

I just ran into another friend of mine who burns crude oil in his CTD with no problems. He is one of several guys around here burning it in their trucks.



Blake

 

[master1578]

Where do they get it? What is the cost?

 

[Blakers]

Where do they get it? What is the cost?

I think he said $1. 50-something a gallon. Maybe a little more since crude oil is near $75/bbl. $75/42 = $1. 79/gallon.



I don't know exactly where he gets it - someone who has some wells I guess. It is filtered too.

 

[RustyJC]

If someone wants to run crude oil, they had better learn the term "BS&W" - bottom sediment and water. One of the checks oil companies make on the crude oil they purchase is to centrifuge a sample and check the % BS&W.



I don't imagine injector pumps, injectors, piston rings, etc. will like a steady diet of BS&W very much!



Rusty

 

[HRDROKN]

I don't imagine injector pumps, injectors, piston rings, etc. will like a steady diet of BS&W very much!

Like pumping silt through your fuel system... .

 

[Blakers]

If someone wants to run crude oil, they had better learn the term "BS&W" - bottom sediment and water. One of the checks oil companies make on the crude oil they purchase is to centrifuge a sample and check the % BS&W.



I don't imagine injector pumps, injectors, piston rings, etc. will like a steady diet of BS&W very much!



Rusty

I am not condoning the use of crude oil in one's truck, but there were many engines made to run on it successfully. I think the key is filtration and selection. It would have to be from someone who has heated their tanks and drained the water off.

 

[RustyJC]

I am not condoning the use of crude oil in one's truck, but there were many engines made to run on it successfully.

Yes, but most of these engines used fuel heating, centrifuges, multi-stage filtration, etc. to clean up the fuel.



Rusty

 

[MD500E]

Will a little water hurt? What about all of the guys with water/meth injection?

I would think a good filter and a 12 valve would run on just about anything!