Arizona Cummins/Duramax story

[DavidC]

I think you will like this one. There are 3 guy's at one of our facilities, 2 are concrete mixer drivers and own 05 Duramaxes. The other guy has an 05 Cummins. All trucks are stock. The 2 Duramax guy's gang up on the Cummins telling him that his Cummins is a piece of *****. Now these 2 guys drive a Cummins powered mixers all day and should know better. The Cummins invites the 2 Duramax guys to the asphalt street with a chain in hand. The first Duramax hooks up to the Cummins and promptly gets drug down the street with little effort. The 2nd guy tells the first that he does not know how to drive. The second hooks up to the Cummins and promptly gets drug 20 feet as the Cummins pushes in the clutch and allows the Duramax a head start on the pulling. The Cummins rolls backwards for about 10 feet then lets the clutch out promptly stopping the Duramax in its tracks and the Cummins pulls the Duramax about 50 feet down the road. Neither Duramax driver had much to say when it finally ended.



Dave

 

[HRDROKN]

That's great!!! :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Fred Swanson]

Dave, you sure you didn't set those poor Dmax guys up?

 

[DavidC]

Dave, you sure you didn't set those poor Dmax guys up?

No way. They are Concrete Mixer Drivers. They do not need any help looking foolish from any outside source :-laf



Dave

 

[mattymac]

did it look like this?



http://video.thedieselgarage.com/category/Sled+Pulling/0/0C15F032-62D8-44E6-B75E-175AE9FE0CF2.htm

 

[DavidC]

did it look like this?



http://video.thedieselgarage.com/category/Sled+Pulling/0/0C15F032-62D8-44E6-B75E-175AE9FE0CF2.htm

Yeah, that was it. The only real difference was the ants crawling into the other Dmax guy's mouth when his lower jaw hit the ground :--)



Dave

 

[WyattEarp]

You know some would think that eventually others would understand that Cummins has been moving stuff for over 100yrs someone quote me if im wrong but when your born to pull the competition ought to know better. Now don't get me wrong the Jap. engine is versatile, and dependable with the Allison transmission but Cmon folks you don't mess with tradition, heritage and for sure don't mess with the big sleeping dog on the porch, just politely move to the side and move on. .

 

[Spooled-up]

In all the videos I've seen of the tug-o-war's, the Dodge seems to always win. I wonder if it's really because of the engine or if it's because of the weight or something else. It's gotta be the engine! Oo.

 

[FATCAT]

did it look like this?



http://video.thedieselgarage.com/category/Sled+Pulling/0/0C15F032-62D8-44E6-B75E-175AE9FE0CF2.htm

Well it looks like the Chevy got the better of the Dodge in the end on that video.

 

[tron1959]

Its great to know the CTD has the guts. However having said that I am one of those that has owned and kept for over 100,00 miles. a 1994 model with NV 4500, then 2001. 5 HO with NV 5600. Both of these trucks consistently got over 21 mpg with the 94 model hitting 25 and 26 mpg on long road trips with atv in bed. For some reason mileage increased with atv in bed. I gave up the 2001. 5 in divoece property settlement, then went to Toyota Prerunner for two years. Good truck (really a car with a small bed). The Toyota would get 18 mpg if you babied it.



I was then the proud owner of a 2006 QC long bed CTD with G56 6 speed. I was proud until I realized this is not the same truck as the last two. After several tanks, nearing 5,000 miles on the odometer it barely touched 19 mpg on the second tank and last weekend towing a 13' single axle trailer with 1 atv on trailer and one in bed of truck I took a 800 mile round trip. 14 mpg avg. The return trip was less than 14. I had the cruise set on 75 on the interstate which was about 70% of the trip and on the way up there the cruise was set at about 72 on the interstate. . My two previous CTD's both recorded over 17 mpg pulling this same load with me hammering on them.



This truck is using about 20 % more fuel. I guess all of the multiple injection events for the federal smog weenies is being wasted and going up in smoke. Maybe we should install a nozzle on the end of the tail pipe to harness the thrust from this wasted fuel.



I cannot understand how anyone can equate more fuel usage intentionally as being a good thing.



I also noticed the oil was very black at first change at 3,000 miles. My other two trucks oil was much cleaner at 7,500 miles.



I guess after rambling on, my point is that I would happily trade this truck for either of my two previous trucks if the 94 had 4 doors and the 2001. 5 had a better lift pump. I never had any problems with it but I know some did.

 

[OL RATLR]

I bet they are not talking a lot lately. :{

 

[rrausch]

I love my '95 and consistently get over 20 mpg on trips--that is at 75 mph with the AC on!



I've got 183,000 miles on it, and about 80,000 on the transmission.

I don't want to ever get rid of this truck!

 

[EricBu12]

tron,



If you had the higher gear in the other truck, the 3. 54... . the new one is 3. 75 or something like that so it is lower and you rev more at the same speed. See what your RPS's are at different speeds, you might want to go to a slightly larger tire to off-set that.

 

[mattymac]

Its great to know the CTD has the guts. However having said that I am one of those that has owned and kept for over 100,00 miles. a 1994 model with NV 4500, then 2001. 5 HO with NV 5600. Both of these trucks consistently got over 21 mpg with the 94 model hitting 25 and 26 mpg on long road trips with atv in bed. For some reason mileage increased with atv in bed. I gave up the 2001. 5 in divoece property settlement, then went to Toyota Prerunner for two years. Good truck (really a car with a small bed). The Toyota would get 18 mpg if you babied it.



I was then the proud owner of a 2006 QC long bed CTD with G56 6 speed. I was proud until I realized this is not the same truck as the last two. After several tanks, nearing 5,000 miles on the odometer it barely touched 19 mpg on the second tank and last weekend towing a 13' single axle trailer with 1 atv on trailer and one in bed of truck I took a 800 mile round trip. 14 mpg avg. The return trip was less than 14. I had the cruise set on 75 on the interstate which was about 70% of the trip and on the way up there the cruise was set at about 72 on the interstate. . My two previous CTD's both recorded over 17 mpg pulling this same load with me hammering on them.



This truck is using about 20 % more fuel. I guess all of the multiple injection events for the federal smog weenies is being wasted and going up in smoke. Maybe we should install a nozzle on the end of the tail pipe to harness the thrust from this wasted fuel.



I cannot understand how anyone can equate more fuel usage intentionally as being a good thing.



I also noticed the oil was very black at first change at 3,000 miles. My other two trucks oil was much cleaner at 7,500 miles.



I guess after rambling on, my point is that I would happily trade this truck for either of my two previous trucks if the 94 had 4 doors and the 2001. 5 had a better lift pump. I never had any problems with it but I know some did.

tron,



If you had the higher gear in the other truck, the 3. 54... . the new one is 3. 75 or something like that so it is lower and you rev more at the same speed. See what your RPS's are at different speeds, you might want to go to a slightly larger tire to off-set that.

Not only lower gears (3. 73's) but a heavier truck, about 100 HP more and way tighter emmision standards, but it only gets a few mpg less

 

[_MACKIN]

Tug of wars prove nothing but who has traction and who can spin the wheels and lose traction.

 

[ezcurra]

I'm afraid he's right. Traction has a lot more to do than engine output. All the torque in the world won't help if your tires are not biting.

 

[DavidC]

So are you saying the Dodge is a better design since it does not lose traction like the Dmax that lost traction while being towed backwards and trying to go forward? :-laf



Dave

 

[Jeepmullet]

If you're chaining up and winning, the contest really means everything.

 

[DavidBurt]

The bragging rights sure are nice.

Every time I see one of these videos its a dodge dragging the competition all over the parking lot. Go over to inlinediesel.com and check out those videos. HP, torque, traction, whatever you want to call it winning is winning.

Dave

 

[SHobbs]

Tug of wars prove nothing but who has traction and who can spin the wheels and lose traction.

Geez



I believe this is what sets the big boys from the little ones. Forget the tug of wars load them up and see who gets to the top. The pics below are one of the big reasons I bought my truck. My Cummins is just wrapped in a Dodge wrapper.