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Audiophiles, I need some advice.

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You are looking at nice stuff. Good luck. I have had several Onkyo products, and had good luck with them. Denon has a great reputation. Other than that, the stuff you are looking at is too high class for my check book. Good luck and enjoy.
 
I just recently purchased my first Denon. Granted, it is not in the ballpark of the monsters you were linked to, but, it is the AVR-1802. Waaaaaaay down there in the spectrum. It's awesome. I went from a 10 year old Sony unit to this and wow, what a difference. Of course I added the full ensemble of Boston Acoustic speakers as well.



I'm pleased, but if you're looking at the big stuff, my lil opinion on my lil receiver probably won't help too much.



Enjoy. Let me know when the movies start. I'll bring the beer.



Toby
 
Dude. I got the beer covered. Got myself (happy birthday to me) a vintage fridge and put a tap on it. I've always got a half-barrel of brew ready to go. Got a projector for the movies, surround sound, the works. But my receiver is, like yours, ten years old. And it is really starting to show it's age (sloppy rheostats, not really digital capable, no advanced processing, etc. ). So I'm looking to upgrade.
 
Onkyo

I got a new Onkyo 695 (I think it's a 695) last week. So far, so good. It drives the NHTs very well. I also purchased a Velodyne CT 150... whoa! The Velodyne is awesome.



You'll do well with any of your choices. I went with the Onkyo because of their reputation and I got a good deal to boot.
 
I'm just showing up then, munchies in hand, ready for the show.



The fridge sounds awesome. I've the old fridge out of the kitchen stuck in the garage. Of course when it hits 170 degrees in the garage, I tell the wife that I have to quickly drink all the beer, because it will spoil if left out there unattended too long!



Toby
 
I have heard of the Velodynes. But never heard them in person. From what I've heard from others they are pretty impressive. The local sound shop I haunt, carries Denon. They push that and Polk Audio pretty hard. But I like the upgradeability of the Onkyo and the Denon 5800. The only problem is the prices with the 5800. But, is having the upgradable part (the rs-232 port) such a big deal? I've never had a reciever that had that capability. So, any more opinions? I appreciate every one so far.
 
Originally posted by Amianthus

I have heard of the Velodynes. But never heard them in person. From what I've heard from others they are pretty impressive. The local sound shop I haunt, carries Denon. They push that and Polk Audio pretty hard. But I like the upgradeability of the Onkyo and the Denon 5800. The only problem is the prices with the 5800. But, is having the upgradable part (the rs-232 port) such a big deal? I've never had a reciever that had that capability. So, any more opinions? I appreciate every one so far.



Back in '87, two of my brothers and I went to the stereo shop and bought 4 Carver receivers (mine with the remote control), two sets of Polk SDA-2Bs, a set of Klipsch speakers and three cheap, throw-away CD players - we expected to toss them once something real good came out, but never did.



My Carver has never needed work. Two of the other Carvers have needed replacement speaker relays a couple times. One CD player died, but was repaired - eldest brother was too cheap to buy a new one. The other two needed to have the upper CD holder/bearing cleaned and lubed a time or two. I blew one Polk tweeter, covered under warranty, IIRC. The fourth Carver was to replace Dad's old receiver, which was sounding pretty rotten after 10 years or so.



Everything we bought that day still sounds just fine. Granted, we have had the occasional problem, like Dad's system sounding like crap through his ancient Altec-Lansing 602A coax drivers. But that turned out to be bad speaker connections. Since we replaced the connectors, it's sounded just fine.



I also bought an Onkyo cassette deck, then another for Dad; they're both working fine, still.



Even though eldest brother is about to close his shop doors in a month or three (he's had a pretty good run these 20 years), I'm still going to rag him about that cheap CD player he swore he'd throw away a few months after he bought it. This, of course, whilst we drink his Johnny Walker Blue and smoke my Temple Hall Estates and/or Macanudo Maduro cigars.



I would suggest you do what we did. Research, then go to the shop and listen to every combination of everything you've researched. Do not let the sales droid push you. If they want to sell, they'll give you all the time you need to evaluate. (Of course, in turn, you'll be *glad* to let them wander off to assist other customers. ) And bring CDs of stuff *you* select to 'demonstrate' various audio features; we had brought some Joni Mitchell, Wagner overtures, George Jones and other eclectic selections). Then decide what sounds best for the price you're willing to pay and has the features you want, buy it, and walk out happy.



Good luck!

Fest3er
 
Got one.

Well, I got a new receiver. I finally decided on the Onkyo TX-DS898. I couldn't justify the cost of either the Denon 5800 or the Onkyo 989. The 898 is just fine. Thanks for the help.

Now for my next question. Which digital inputs should I use? The optical or the coaxial? Is there even a difference? Next question. Which video input should I use? The composite video or the s-video. The reciever has the ability to convert one to the other. My monitor only has the capability of s-video, but would component video be worth it to run to the receiver and let it's converter turn it into s-video? Of course, this is completely subject to opinion. But that's what I value most. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
 
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I would use the optical inputs for the audio if it were me. They are easy to hook up and they limit the amount of induction noise you could pick up. As far as the composite video, I don't see the advantage to using composite to the receiver just to have it switch to S-video to the monitor. So... use the optical cables and stay with the S-video. IMHO :)
 
Sorry I read your original post a bit late here. I would have liked to have recommend the new Bose LifeStyle Systems as an option. The LS28 & LS35 have built-in CD & DVD player. Will play DTS discs, AC-3, MP3's, CDR, AM FM tuner built in, surround sound 5 cubes, bass box, amps built in, can turn old mono recordings into surround, even turns your TV on and off for you. Instead of buying about a dozen seperate products, and trying to figure out how to connect them all, this is a very elegant, one box solution.

Anyway:

Optical or copper spdif digital. They are both the same signal. spdif (copper) may be problematic with long runs (especially with poor cable) but under 6' runs are in the very-safe zone. Optical may be better for long runs, but really, no other value there (except the manufactureres can sell you a more expensive cable).

S-video vs composite. s video seperates the color and brightness signals (X and Y signals). Composite needs to to math to derive the color signal on the receiving end. Color bandwidth may be limited with the composite vs s-video. It's hard to see. Try an experiment, and see if you can tell any difference on your TV. I can't on my TV.

Crank it up !

Having a Sam Adams as I type.....

ray
 
RKelly, Thanks for the explaination on the composite vs. s-video. I am going to use the optical and the s-video connections. That seems to be the best way to go for me.

Now if the thing will ever show up. Man I hate waiting.

I used to have a lifestyle system. The system never gave me any real problems. But the IR interface was always broke, and Bose never saw fit to fix it properly. That and I enjoy the flexibility that a multi-component system allows me. I still have a turntable, DAT, 2-VCR's, DVD, Satellite, Cassette, EQ, and a CD for inputs. I have a Monitor and a projector for outputs. Plus a Carver amp to push my speakers (I love them speakers). Tons of stuff that the Lifestyles just aren't capable of. That and Bose stuff is impressive, but not as impressive as the marketing makes it out to be, in my opinion.

Thanks again for the enlightenment on composite vs. s-video.

Next, a report on how well it works. And what kind of music sounds best on it.
 
I hope it comes soon. Nothing like hooking up new gear, and enjoying your old software all over again.

Kind of like driving the same old route to work every day, but in a Cummins Ram !!!

Enjoy.

Ray
 
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