Auto transmission Bind up 2

[Opz01]

The original post

:https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=68494&highlight=bind



Wouldn't accept any new replys to long I guess, I have never met

Edward though we have somethings in common he mentioned," I am not affiliated with any company who sells aftermarket automobile products. I am employed as a machinist in the industrial gas turbine business. " I am not affiliated with any aftermarket automobile products company either. And I consider myself a bit of a machinist as well. Hopefully so will a lot of TDR

readers after I get my Company ramped up this summer. As I have been designing and testing stronger output shafts that should be ready for market by then.

Putting that aside, I recently had the new style servos mentioned in the earlier thread installed in my rig. What impressed me was when they were pressure tested the original servos leaked; it looked like a mini water fountain. My truck always shifted great or so I thought. And you have to agree any leaks are a bad thing. The factory servo design is out dated and barbaric in my opinion. I feel the writing is on the wall; other shops will have to address the servos leaking as well. Enhanced Cummins performance demands these kinds of upgrades, which benefit everyone. After the new ones where installed the same test was done and there where no leaks. My shifts are noticeably more direct when I am in the "drive it like you stole it" mode. When normally driven, shifting feels about the same to me. As for the theory of operation of the bind up or snap action, I consider myself the end user; I really don't care about the theory of operation. What I do care about is more tangible, seeing the automatic's win at the truck pulls, and 4X4's campaigning in the 10's in the quarter with a daily driver.



Opie

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Opie, your post hasn't been up long but I'm sure someone will tell you your wrong today... ... ... having said that I'm looking forward to getting the new products also along with the billet shafts. The TDR is a great place and I love it, but some folks either need to get a life or get the crap beat out of them, I'm thinking land survival school that I went to would be in order... . it's a humbling experience.



Jim

 

[Edward]

Opie

It's good to hear you had a positive experience with the front servo recall. After spending the kind of money we spend getting our transmissions rebuilt, we want it fixed right the first time. No consumer likes to hear, "Mr. customer, there is a problem we were unaware of when we rebuilt your transmission and you need to bring it back so we can get it fixed". I give your vendor credit for making the process as painless as possible and making the fix available to you at no cost. It's also good to hear that your truck is now shifting better. I bet it makes it more fun to drive.



PS

Good luck with the introduction of your new product. Keep us posted.



Edward

 

[Opz01]

Originally posted by Edward

Opie

It's good to hear you had a positive experience with the front servo recall.



Edward

Somehow I wasn't subscribed to this thread.



Edward, what is the front servo recall? I didn't know there where any other versions available other than the stock ones or the ones I bought from DTT. I would be really be intrested in seeing any other versions.



Jim, as for being wrong or right I will leave that upto the individual reader. And if I ever get in a dispute I hope your on my side. lol



Opie



PS: Thanks for all the support with the new parts I am making.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Jim, as for being wrong or right I will leave that upto the individual reader. And if I ever get in a dispute I hope your on my side



Awe I'm not radical, actually laid back here are just too many folks that think they know something when they don't know much. Good to hear you are having fun with the new parts, should have mine in next month.



Jim

 

[GLASMITHS]

Hi Opie:

My update parts were installed a couple of weeks ago by Chris Strickland (Strick9) at Relentless Diesel. Your experience was about like mine, firmer 2nd apply. At the same time we changed the ATF+3 to Amsoil Universal. It is probably due to the oil, but 2nd to 3rd manual upshift under full power is much smoother.



I didn't get a recall notice either. My yearly transmission service was due and with the parts available, why not. What amazed me is the fact of that oem front servo was so sloppy, only one sealing ring, and with a 1/16" gap. The REPLACEMENT has no slop and THREE sealing rings, with interlocking ends. VERY tight fit.



So, if it helps my transmission live longer pulling 26K so be it. If not no problem. The new SPA gauge he put on for me cost more... . Also the DD1s that I really didn't need Or the new 3 gauge holder on the piller. (Chris did a very neat install - solder everything, heat shrink tubing... ) Also, while doing the injectors, adjusted valves - got that over with. 2 were out a little.



Opie: good luck in your new business--------------





george

 

[Bob Wagner]

Opie is a great guy with a lot of very promising projects.



If I can help you have my number

 

[Opz01]

Not only are Ram owners great people but for what ever reason we are better looking too. And according to the Luner Calendar it's our year to boot!



Thanks for all the support guys.



Opie

 

[Edward]

Originally posted by Opz01

Somehow I wasn't subscribed to this thread.



Edward, what is the front servo recall? I didn't know there where any other versions available other than the stock ones or the ones I bought from DTT. I would be really be intrested in seeing any other versions.

Opie

Opz01

A recall is when a company replaces a part because it is not functioning properly. In this case the company who rebuilt your transmission by their own admission had problems with the front servo leaking and offered to replace the defective part free of charge. When Ford, Chrysler or GM do a mass replacement of a defective part it is referred to as a recall. Is your vendor an exception or do they go by the same rules as everyone else?



Edward

 

[Boldt's Wagon]

Edward: There is no DTT recall for a DTT part. DTT developed a replacement servo late last year with a better design. The improved servo was made available to customers in January of this year, I was one of the first customers requesting the servo. The servo is a replacement for the original factory part. Several people have provided observations of the factory design leakage and opted for the new DTT design.



Chrysler has not but should have a recall for the servo.



It is only a matter of time before other transmission rebuilders start to replace factory servos with a better designed unit. Bill estimated that 20 percent or more of transmission failures are due to servo leakage. My transmission failure was, I observed the drinking fountain leakage from the servo on my transmission after it was disassembled and put on the hydraulic test machine.



DTT is installing the redesigned servos to minimize trannys coming back. It increases transmission life, reduces warrenty work, and increases customer satisfaction.

 

[Big White Beast]

Please don't feed the troll.........

Once again a civil thread started and immediately a troll came on and twisted the meaning of the thread. He injected a key word of his own choosing (Recall) and tried to apply it to what was said. By choosing his words carefully he will try to skirt the issue of the TDR's rules. It is more than obvious that he is in fact violating them in that he is intentionally stirring up trouble.



Please don't fall into this trap. Ignore him and hopefully he will go away.



Garrett

 

[Tom W]

Hey, Garrett, I agree with your take on this.



I have had a DTT transmission for three years and consider myself a DTT supporter. I have not got into any of these debates but I have read them all. I don't know why they deteriorate into such useless, unreasonable, squabbles that don't contribute anything positive to anyone.

I know that other people choose to do things differently than I would but that doesn't mean we can't talk in a friendly manner and not deride each other's choices.



It's obvious to me that the troll has something bugging him about DTT as he has taken every opportunity to do exactly what he has accused DTT supporters of doing.



Tom

 

[Edward]

Main Entry: [2]re·call

Pronunciation: ri-'kol, 'rE-"

Function: noun

Date: 1611

1 : a call to return <a recall of workers after a layoff>

2 : the right or procedure by which an official may be removed by vote of the people

3 : remembrance of what has been learned or experienced

4 : the act of revoking

5 : a public call by a manufacturer for the return of a product that may be defective or contaminated

2001 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated



1. Is the company in question a manufacturer of rebuilt transmissions?

2. Is there a call out to the members of the public who own this company’s product?

3. Does the company in question say that the servo is defective and offer to replace it free of charge?





According to the dictionary the term I chose to use is absolutely correct in it's meaning and context. For those who disagree with the definition above please contact Merriam-Webster.



Edward

 

[MCrossley]

yup looks like the pot stirring shovel is now on TDR to be a pest... Just another person tired of this guy ruining good threads. Chris excellent post love reading your stuff nice and PROFFESSIONAL...

 

[Edward]

Hey guys take it easy. The name-calling has no place in these forums. I have not been critical of the vendor you like in fact I had positive things to say about the company in question and how they are taking care of their customers.

I give your vendor credit for making the process as painless as possible and making the fix available to you at no cost.

The world and this sight do not revolve around one company. So lighten up some and make this place enjoyable for everyone.



Edward

 

[pwr2tow]

Edward is right once again. You guys are so stuck up on your ego's you don't even know when you have been given a compliment.



Ron

 

[MCrossley]

Originally posted by ronsram1999

Edward is right once again. You guys are so stuck up on your ego's you don't even know when you have been given a compliment.



Ron

LOL hardly

 

[Steve Roseman]

Edward, you're making it sound as if DTT produced a faulty servo and had a recall. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but even I can see through that. DTT is offering an improved version to replace the factory one. I try to see the best in people, it keeps getting harder and harder.

 

[GLASMITHS]

Dull tools in the shed?

Steve,



I'll let you determine how sharp the tools are. However, one has to agree completely with your coments. ALSO, the question might be asked, "What is their transmission vendor doing about the leaks"?



Oh fellows, these update parts would also fit in and benefit one of those "snap valve" trannys also. Hope this helps





George

 

[Steve Roseman]

Thanks George... lol.

I'm one of the guys still sitting on the fence, the guys who really benefit from positive discussions.

My transmission has 157k on it with only an aftermarket TC. I can still run 0-60 in 8 seconds and pull a trailer like there's no tommorrow. I do know it won't last forever and want to learn all I can before then.