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I had one until my upgrade to DTT about a year ago. It was far better than stock; but, at 26 to 2700 rpm you just ran into a wall. The rpm went up but no power. And it ran 20-30 deg hotter than the DTT.



Also, that is the one that Earthroamer had; and he really got down on it when it got bad. But this was cutting edge stuff in '99. And he got his for free. :mad:
 
Originally posted by Steve Roseman

Edward, you're making it sound as if DTT produced a faulty servo and had a recall. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but even I can see through that. DTT is offering an improved version to replace the factory one. I try to see the best in people, it keeps getting harder and harder.



Steve

I agree, the company you mentioned was not the original manufacturer of the servo, but they installed it and sent the transmission out the door with that part in it and their name on it. When Ford had trouble with their ignition switches shorting out and recalled them; they were not the original manufacturer of the switch either. One of their vendors made that switch and Ford installed it in their vehicles. Not unlike the transmission vendor up north having a servo made by someone else leak in his application. However when that transmission left his shop it was totally his transmission any defect was totally his responsibility. After all it had his name on it. And he must take the responsibility for not getting the job done right the first time. Just like the Ford recall, when that car or truck left the factory it was totally a Ford it had the Ford name on it. They too didn’t get it right the first time. However Ford took responsibility for recalling their product and provided the replacement at no coat to their customer. The transmission company you named is doing the exact same thing. They are taking care of their customers, and that’s good.

What’s different is how the companies characterize their actions. If one company can say that stopping the leak is an innovation and offer the new and improved version of the servo. Then the company who stopped the ignition switches from shorting out was equally as innovative with their new and improved smokeless version. This is a free country and if people want to think that fixing a short or stopping a leak is cutting edge innovation well they can have at it. Personally it takes way more than stopping a leak or fixing a short for me to be impressed enough to call it innovation.



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Edward this is not to be taken as a personal attack or anything but man you are out in left field somewhere; in fact I think you are in a different ball park... Ignore the fact that I am a DTT customer which by the way you might as well just flat out say instead of your stepping around the name which is more obvious than just typing the three simple letters DTT. You manage to warp anything into anything. Although I have to admit I am sure that DTT is appreciating the huge amount of free publicity that you are so kindly doing for them. Have a nice evening... :)
 
A recall? Hardly that.



I've got a DTT trans in our '97 truck. It was installed at DTT in Sept. 2002, and it inclluded the usage of the Chrysler OEM servo, as was usual practice at the time for most, if not all, rebuilders of chrysler auto transmissions. It is the factory part and seemed to be the best available.



In Feb. 2003 I learned through a thread in this site that Bill Kondolay had designed an improvement to the factory piston sealing methods used in the servo and was then installing them into all of his rebuilds which were completed after development, testing, and production of the new servo piston.



I called DTT to learn more about this and to inquire whether the new part woulld fit and benefit my transmission. . ... there had been no so-called "recall" and I made contact on my own initiative.



I was told that though it was not necessary, the new part could assure better piston sealing for a longer time than the OEM part in my transmission. I was also told that the part was available to me as a previous customer and I was given a price for installation of the part at their facility. I chose to have that work done at the price given and made appointment to do it.



Now the piece is in my transmission (as of Thursday, 4-17). I paid for it as an aftermarket improvement to my already great transmission. In no way was this a "fix" or the result of a failing on he part of DTT in the original remanufacture of the transmission in my truck.



For the record I have not noticed any improvement in the performance of my transmission resulting from this new part. It may well be that because I have a slide-in on the truck and the weight and safety keep me from driving with a heavy foot that I don't feel any change but whether or not that is the case I'm satisfied that the longevity of the thing has been improved by it's new ability to retain pressures better than any stock transmission does and better than other aftermarket efforts yet do. .



I'm surprised to hear that this new piece is being offered to other customers at no cost. No such offer was made to me.
 
Maybe Edward is buying the new parts for everyone. I heard that it is an option available for extra cost to the customer, like most options from companies.
 
This is the best information I could find on the cost/no-cost front servo

replacement.



This information is copied from a post made by Stefan Kondolay on January

31, 2003. The thread is titled, 47RE and 47RH Front Servo.



originally posted by Stefan Kondolay

The servo piston is now part of our transmisison rebuild, it is a standard

component included in the parts list we use. The primary reason for the

servo is quite simple , it is to stop leakage now and prevent future

leakage. Its that simple. This has been in the design and testing phase for

8 months. That is why we offered this product to our existing customers that

have had work done in the last 8 months in our shop at no labor charge when

they do their service. We feel it is worth while putting in.



I do not know if "our shop" is intended to mean the one in Canada or if it

includes all of his company's affiliates. I know this may not be enough

information to resolve all of your questions, so I recommend contacting your

installer to get the complete answer.



Edward
 
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Well, since this one has eroded into a Edward vs. DTT advocates, I'll just lock it down now.



Since it is obvious that this one is more about interpersonal conflict than technical discussion, I'll lock it down.



If you'd like to start a new thread, OK by me. But keep the personal stuff out of it.



Have a lovely day. My Monday morning is off to a fun start (chuckle).



Robin

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