B-100

[rrab1]

Hi everone,My freind just bought a bio-diesel maker from Azure and I want to know if anybody runs B-100 in the Dodge cummins. Mine is a 2000 with an e-z and f-1 injectors, Just paid $2. 40 a gallon tonight at the pump so I might try his home brew if it wont hurt my cummins Thank's Don

 

[Turboman]

Hey, I bought one from Azure too. After doing about four 1 liter batches, I made a 20 gal batch. I mixed it with diesel about 20% or like B20, runs fine so far.

 

[Eco Rednek]

You won t believe how smooth the engine runs on B100. .



Check your fuel filter often at first, B100 will clean out all the crud in your fuel tank/lines pretty quick.



With the 24v fuel pump you might be concerned about burning out your lift pump more easily because B 100 is less viscous than #2 (I think) You might look into a fuel pressure gauge... .



Also, be careful with B100 below freezing.....

 

[SHobbs]

You won t believe how smooth the engine runs on B100. .



Check your fuel filter often at first, B100 will clean out all the crud in your fuel tank/lines pretty quick.



With the 24v fuel pump you might be concerned about burning out your lift pump more easily because B 100 is less viscous than #2 (I think) You might look into a fuel pressure gauge... .



Also, be careful with B100 below freezing.....

You got everything right but one. Bio has almost twice the lubricity of #2 and has a higher cetane rating. The cetane is to diesels what octane is to gassers. Fuel pressure gauges are essential on the 2nd gens due to LP failure which could kill the VP44. If you don't have a fuel pressure gauge get one. As far as the bio freezing, well there are different experiences concerning that. I have had B100 in the tank with temps as low as 14* with no problems and others have had problems with temps in the 20's.



I have been running B100 for a year and the Cummins loves it.

 

[rivercat]

off topic,

Is there any other option other that cooking oil that can be used with the azure system? Used motor oil maybe

 

[JFaughn]

Any vegitable oil , so that just leaves out crisco & margrin , but you could do those also , just a lot less fuel after prossessing .

 

[rrab1]

Thank's for the reply's, I have fuel,egt,boost gauges Thank's Don

 

[Eco Rednek]

Hobbs,



So, what is the verdict with b100 and the vp, is it more or less likely to kill the lift pump. ?

I am a 12v p pump guy, but I have a few friends with 24valvers who want to run bio and I am trying to advise them... . If I had a vp I think a fp gauge would be a no brainer...

I just don t think they realize... voluntary ignorance. For those of us who do want to know, god bless the TDR.

 

[Msilbernagel]

Hobbs,



So, what is the verdict with b100 and the vp, is it more or less likely to kill the lift pump. ?

I posted (somewhere, have to go find it now but it's probably in Alternative Fuels) links to a paper that measured lubricity of various fuels with BIO added. A few percent made most anything you could get, even JP8, meet lubricity standards.



As long as outside temps don't fall low enough to gell the fuel, you're way ahead with BIO in terms of being pump friendly.



If you've tried it, you'll notice how much quieter the engine runs. Most of that reduction in noise is in the high pressure fuel pump/system.



I put a few gallons, at least, in every tank just to avoid pump problems caused by the 'dry' low-sulfur fuels we getting - with even lower sulfer levels to come this year. Add to that what's been measured as wide variability in #2 diesel quality (particularly lubricity) and it's cheap insurance.



My thoughts.



Mark

 

[SHobbs]

Hobbs,



So, what is the verdict with b100 and the vp, is it more or less likely to kill the lift pump. ?

I am a 12v p pump guy, but I have a few friends with 24valvers who want to run bio and I am trying to advise them... . If I had a vp I think a fp gauge would be a no brainer...

I just don t think they realize... voluntary ignorance. For those of us who do want to know, god bless the TDR.

I don't see how it could hurt the VP44 or the LP IMHO. The bio being produced has to meet all the specs of #2 and with almost twice the lubrication how could it hurt. I was running cottonseed oil but it is thicker and heavy than the soybean oil I am currently running. I was scared that the cottonseed might cause probs with the pumps.



You are right about the fp gauge, it is a must have item. I think everyone should run bio whether it's B100 or a mix and tell OPEC to take a hike. Only thing you really need to tell your friends is to watch their fuel filters cause the bio will clean out the fuel system.

 

[Eco Rednek]

Thanks for the info, I ll pass it on to the 24 V guys... .

I think everyone should run bio whether it's B100 or a mix and tell OPEC to take a hike.

I completely agree. I hate the thought of running straight #2 in my truck. It sounds and feels as if the crankcase has been filled with gravel.



IMHO, running bio is one of the most patriotic things the average person can do.

We have the opportunity to vote with our dollars (probably the only votes that really count anymore). Lets get out there and vote for american farmers.



This is a little sticker I like to put on gas pumps sometimes to remind people of who they are voting for.

 

[benhall]

If there was a place to fill up here with bio, I would. I'm not going to drive 3 or more hours round trip to get it though.



Ben

 

[guns101]

I run B-100 in the warmer months. Mix it in the winter just to keep things lubed. Even proved the quieter engine theory to my CTD bud. Mine is a 12 valve so lucky not to have the vp-44 but this stuff runs great. I read a study that showed even 1% Bio added to fuel increased lubricity huge. With ULS diesel coming on the market now,Bio is going to be in more demand. And nobody is waging war in the soybean fields,yet. Although big oil is fighting tooth and nail in D. C. to keep it quiet and keep the price up but B-20 is usually the same price as #2 fuel.

 

[Cattletrkr]

I don't know what years or anything, but watch for fuel system leaks on the older trucks. I've heard that some of the seals don't like bio. I don't think it's much of a problem, just be aware of it.

 

[JFaughn]

I don't know what years or anything, but watch for fuel system leaks on the older trucks. I've heard that some of the seals don't like bio. I don't think it's much of a problem, just be aware of it.

The leaks you refured to are the rubber based seals & hose's going soft with higher % of bio [ about 30% & up , long term ] , if you replace with non rubber [ about after 94 stock ] vinton hose's & seals.

 

[americana]

eco redneck... i haven't been to the site in a looooooong time. i don't know who you are... . or who you think you are posting that photo...



but you are my kinda guy... . beer's on me next time we cross paths.



i haven't laughed that hard in a long time, and believe me i needed it!!!