Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) B1 turbo results to date

[csutton7]

Ok guys here it is for my truck--I will add more data as I acquire it---some of these are just initial feelings and I may or may not update them--I need to drive with this more to get a honest reading---



my highest temp is 1740* with my past setup of DDIII's and HOT,HOT POWER EDGE with 45 lbs of boost with the HX40/16(during sled pull)



B1 produced 50 lbs of boost with 1500*--I couldn't get it over 1500*(rodding up and down the freeway)



It is no louder than a HX 40



there isn't to much of a difference, if any, in temps while empty and normal cruising--for towing the boys who tow will have to input here---



this baby definitely does its business on the upper--that's for sure



Initial reactions--which could change as I drive it more---





lag time is definitely not any different than the HX40--might be a little better, in fact-hard to say with what little I've driven it--it is not worse though----



I'll update as I get more info---



thanks to KwikKurt, HVAC, Brandon and bpine..... chris

 

[KWIKKURT]

Chris, What are you running for your air induction??



P. S. I heard you will get another 100 deg drop if you wear a blue sweater!

 

[willyslover]

Kurt . . only if he has his matching blue thong banna hammock on

 

[csutton7]

willyslover--you're letting all my secrets out--of course the thong is a size or two too small:--)



I need to update my sig---



Sunday I put on the AFE mega cannon or whatever it's called--



the hole for the psychotty is being used along with the stock hole and the leakage around the AFE -



i will try just laying the ol' "K&N " back in there and see what happens and then I'll just lay the AFE filter in there without the 3 sided enclosure----



it takes the B1 no time at all to build boost when power braking--the HX 40 was slower and it took a blink of an eye with just the DDIII's and EZ to hit 31 lbs of boost from 6 lbs(I was at 10mph-one city block- for this test and punched it-probably would've done more but I had a stop sign in my way) --she moves some air and is quick at it... .

chris

 

[csutton7]

on my original post I forgot to state that I have an EZ also along with everything else---



today I slapped in the ol' K&N RE0880 and the temps went to 1535* and probably would've gone a little higher, but I ran out of real estate to continue---so the AFE mega cannon system helps the EGT's somewhat--I'll test it once more and try just the AFE filter without its 3 sided box and see what the temps do----chris

 

[BPINE]

Hey Chris is the save a little money EGR system fixed ?

 

[csutton7]

yea the EPA was a little upset at my futuristic setup and told me to take it to the BPA and get it fixed----chris

 

[csutton7]

more test results--



with the K&N RE0880 filter sitting on the fender--temps went to 1542*



with the AFE filter sitting on the fender temps went to 1528* but then dropped to 1478* and then I ran out of real estate so I need to test this setup again as it could be the way to go vs. the AFE enclosure----



it was 57* outside..... chris

 

[HVAC]

Rubberneck/B1

Tomorrow Mr. Rubherneck is installing his B1 turbo on his "SuperRam". I'm anxious to see how his six speed six barrell responds to the new turbo.



Stay tuned for some in the cab data.

 

[KWIKKURT]

Originally posted by csutton7

more test results--



with the K&N RE0880 filter sitting on the fender--temps went to 1542*



with the AFE filter sitting on the fender temps went to 1528* but then dropped to 1478* and then I ran out of real estate so I need to test this setup again as it could be the way to go vs. the AFE enclosure----



it was 57* outside..... chris

Chris, I am not sure about running unloaded but when Towing Heavy GCVW I saw 200 deg drop in Egt's after I enclosed and Ducted the Airfilter to the out side. When I was just cruising I would see only about 20 to 40 deg Rise in intake air. But then when I was Pulling at 400+ hp on a mountain climb the intake air temps went over 100 deg higher than outside air even at 75 mph. . JFYI kurt

 

[R.ebel]

EGT's

1740 degrees :--) :--) :--)

 

[bigbrassmonkey]

I have a piers hx35-14, and the blu-bx fms set at 63%, ( thats the max you squeeze out of the zp),and never seee over 1000 degrees(which is unusual), usually rinning 650-850, not 1700, man you better save up for some pistons, or sell it before it starts to knock:--)





possibly if you went with a smaller exaust side turbo, it would spool quicker, and reduce the egt's that way, using the theroy of more air in, the cooler it'll run, what kind of smoke do you make??



I can hit 45 psi, once you get over 20, and as long as it stays there or better,I've found it has little effect on anything but the libido



just my opinion



you should update your signature,your very contradictory

 

[Brandon]

1740... ... ..... sutton that is for light weights





my needle hits the stop on the 0 side... . graduations stop at 1600



hmm whatdya think i want now

 

[csutton7]

BBM-- my pryo is pre turbo---my temp reading of 1740* was at WOT during a sled pull---and all the other readings are at WOT---so you're telling me you never get over 1000*--I find it hard to believe, but maybe it's true and that's awesome if it is, but I don't believe it---now alittle info: there are numerous trucks out there that eclipse the 1300* mark with the pre turbo pyro---we don't run it over 1300* for more than the sled pull or 1/4 mile race or you will need pistons---and most of the time I'm running the temps you quote during normal driving--but the temps will rise once you hit the go pedal----and a smaller exhaust housing will increase temps(in most cases)--harder to get the hot air out... ... ... chris

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Hey Chris, question for you. You said that your previous peak temp was 1740 while pulling, so what was your highest temp while hot rodding with the hx40? What housing did you have on the hx40? What I am really after here is what was the exact (or as close as you can guess) drop in temps when all that was changed was the turbo? Comparing your highest temp while pulling with DD3s to your highest temp while going on the freeway with BD5s seems like an unfair comparison. I appreciate you sharing your info with us, but I am trying to find out how much the turbo (by itself) dropped your temps. Thanks.



Other Chris

 

[bigbrassmonkey]

Chris



my pyro is post turbo, so you can add 2-300 to it, I have not pulled a "sled", but have pulled a 20K trailer up 3-5 mile inclines with my foot in it, and, I believe the fueling box has had to defuel twice,, and people make it a point of hunting me down tochew me out, due to my ruthless driving, regardles 1800 degrees is very high, I have the defuel setting set at 1K post turbo, allowing for that 300 degree difference



All I can say is good luck,, I believe your block core is 9000$, remember that

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by bigbrassmonkey

I have the defuel setting set at 1K post turbo, allowing for that 300 degree difference

Um you realize that its not as simple as adding 300° to the post reading. It can vary quite drastically and has been "proven" several times. This is why most of the higher temp guys run preturbo probes. I would venture to guess your at 1500 or 1600° on actual temperture. I can bury my pyro(1600&deg with my lil PDR HX35. But thats really only when dynoing it or running it at the strip... ...



When you run that temp, what is the boost level???

 

[Brandon]

we plugged in an ottomind post turbo on a buddies





just so it wouldnt defuel

gotta love it



sutton if you had a a piece of tape you could just cover the gauge and write 1000 on it and you are good to go

 

[LSMITH]

Originally posted by Brandon

we plugged in an ottomind post turbo on a buddies





just so it wouldnt defuel

gotta love it



sutton if you had a a piece of tape you could just cover the gauge and write 1000 on it and you are good to go

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! You west coasters are great!!! When you burn one down just build it back better!

 

[bigbrassmonkey]

Kat me running 1000 post turbo, is less risky than 1800 pre turbo, I am well aware of the difference, but to lazy to change it



I push 45 psi max, usually running in the 30's wot on the streeet