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Bear with me and educate me guys. I do not know everything. But, what is the B-100 you guys are talking about?



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the MADDOG
 
B100 is 100% Bio Diesel, I have been running B99, in California Bio Diesel is considered a developmental fuel so they can not sell 100% it has to contain 1% #2 Diesel because B100 does not meet some of the fuel requirements. At least that is the way I understand it.
 
MADDOG3 said:
Bear with me and educate me guys. I do not know everything. But, what is the B-100 you guys are talking about?



Regards,



the MADDOG



The "B" mean Biodiesel - Made from veggie oil, soybean oil, etc - and chemically changed to be more fluid like real diesel...



the "100" mean the percentage of biodiesel -- ie. b80 = 80% bio, 20% regular diesel... . and so on
 
It seems that most if not all engine manfactures have said B5 TO B20 is fine. Cummins has pros and cons to say about Biodiesel. From reading, its not the end all to end all, espically in colder climates. I'm runing B100 and while the fuel dealers have nothing but praise, there are alot of unknowns about B100, long term. Basically, and Im not a chemical engineer (but I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express on night), it doesnt burn as hot or completly, so having the unburnt fuel wash down into the crankase, may be an issue. More frequent oil changes would solve that. There is also an issue of injector tip clogging with B100. Everyone seems to agree that B100 will give you less performance as well as less fuel milage.

I'm concerned about the warranty. I have a 2005 with 20K on it. Its not worth voiding the warranty if something happens to the fuel injection pump or something else and the service manager says Bio was the problem. He may NOT have stayed at the Holiday Inn!! Mabey Tommygun can enlighten us on a fuel problem and the warranty should one arise. I'm gonna run one more tank thru and change my filter just out of courisity.

Until I can get some good answers on warranty issues, I'll proabably switch to B-20 which Cummnis says is ok.



http://www.biodiesel.org/resources/fuelfactsheets/standards_and_warranties.shtm



It seems to me that the more people use it anyway the price will be the same a #2. Supply and demand.



lets keep it civil!!



BillD

Pensacola, FL
 
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I'm not sure about that Bill. T-Gill was saying that while it is true that Biodiesel has less BTU's than #2, it burns almost completely in every combustion cycle. I doubt it has any long term ill effects. Also, something must be up with it being used more widespread (like B20 as the new diesel) because new plants are starting to pop up everywhere it seems. There are recently announced plans to build a new biodiesel plant in Castleberry, AL which is just above Brewton. Practically at the gulf coast's back door ya know?
 
I suspect the key to more plants and distributors might be profits and or the idea of upcoming fed/state incentives for producers/distributors. Or future profits!





JJ
 
I'll bet there's a very respectable profit margin in biodiesel right now. I don't see where there'd be a good reason to sell it otherwise.
 
EMD-Run8 said:
Yeah, do you think they could do without some of the smog equipment on '07 enigines if they did?



I think it might make it a little easier to meet the standards, but not enough to have a significant difference. Bio reduces most pollutants, but of these, Particulate matter (PM) is the only that has to be improved to meet the 2007-2010 limits.



The 2007 PM limit will be about 1/10 of 2004, B100 cuts PM by around 1/2 compared to LSD, so that won't be enough. ULSD by itself will lower PM about 10%.



Including biodiesel plants under construction now, anticipated annual production capacity will be 713. 7 million gallons. Total on road diesel use is around 41 Billion gallons per year. So in the near term we could only get about B2 if all diesel was switched a to bio blend.



A good thing with Biodiesel is that exsisting vehicles get an immediate reduction in emissions, you don't have to wait for all those trucks to wearout and be replaced.
 
Yes, and for that reason I suggest that when supply reaches the right level that B20 will become the new standard diesel fuel. New biodiesel plants are coming all the time lately. Archer Daniels Midland is building a huge one in the upper midwest. I don't think there would be that much investment unless there was some sort of plan like that.
 
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