Backdown % Juice with Attitde

[Devan Manis]

yeah i knew that, but i was wondering how far you could pull your actual boost down with the juice backing down.

 

[JVolpe]

DM



With the EZ on 2 stacked and the SPS66 even when the Attitude backdown the Juice I was still over 40psi.



I still think the Juice/Attitude combo is a very good performance mod on basically a stock truck. The power is very responsive and consistent at all levels and I have never thrown a code. On a stock turbo the boost readings will be pretty much correct, it is just when you get past that point that things get off.

 

[MRosinski]

With the hot juice on 4 I hit 48psi. 0% backdown. Everything stock except stacks and intake. Plastic intercooler still hangin in.

 

[Matt400]

With the hot juice on 4 I hit 48psi. 0% backdown. Everything stock except stacks and intake. Plastic intercooler still hangin in.

Hrmm, so you saw 48 on the Attitude?? Seems like some inconsistency with the boost readings folks get. I wish Edge participated in these forums. I have emailed them with questions on product I have purchased and never an answer.

 

[JasonCzerak]

How current is your edge?!?!?!

I had a few issues with this device. And the version I have now should solve things.



Appernetly, as of Aug. they have differnet Juice and Attitude version flashed with differnet programming for different gear/trans combinations. I have one for hte NV5600 and 373 gears for the 600. there is differnet software for the 4. 11 and auto's and all that. Call up suppose and ask if you can have the software updated. . This should solve some of hte slipage and backdown problems.



As for boost, the firts box(s) I had wouldn't hit above 33psi, but they corrected some hardware issues and I see almost 40 on stock turbo with the standard. Plugging in the hot version in 30 minutes



Edge support has been awesome in getting this stuff sorted out.





As for features, I would love to see a buttong for "record" to see your records for backdown/slippage. Maybe the screen should flash the highest percentage a few times once it's back to "zero". . example:



0% -> 2% -> 5%... . --> 4% --> 1% --> 0% *flash %5* a bunch of times for say 5 seconds. this would show current slippage in real-time, and when it's back to 0% (off throttle???) it would blink a few times. Same with backdown.



Also in the records area, WHO CARES about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in there. that should stay displayed on the screen when you set that section up to do that function. I would like to see slippage and backdown in that area...

 

[Matt400]

Appernetly, as of Aug. they have differnet Juice and Attitude version flashed with differnet programming for different gear/trans combinations.

Hrrm. The last one I got was for an 03-04. They never asked what trans or gears it had but the manual points out how to set up the box jumpers for specific trans and gears.

 

[KDillard]

Are you all just buying them from a dealer and slapping them on the truck? I have been dealing with Jared in Edge tech support for a few months now and they have gave me one new box and flashed my current one already. Now from what he tells me the signals for the auto and the manual are different on the bus plug so you have to ship it out to them and let them give you the correct flash for your truck. Also you have to let them know what gears you have for that throws a wrench into the deal too. He told me that they designed the juice and attitude on an automatic ram and all their boxes come defaulted with that programming. I was having drivability issues with mine and codes. Since my powersteering box decided to leak, I havent had a chance to slap the new flashed monitor and juice box into the truck yet. Maybe you all can email him at -- email address removed -- and ask if there is a specific flash needed for your particular truck. Make sure to include the gear ratio year make and model along with which transmission you got when you email him. Also make sure to give a brief description of whats going on with the unit. He is a great guy to deal with and has been extremely helpful for me. Edge definitely has A1 tech and customer service!!

 

[MRosinski]

No, I definatly didnt see 48 on the attitude, the 48 was on the isspro. The attitude showed 36-38 on that same run if I remember correctly. Also when I sent it in a month or so ago for the ver. 2. 0 update and the HOT upgrade, they did not ask about transmission or gears

 

[JasonCzerak]

Also in the records area, WHO CARES about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times in there. that should stay displayed on the screen when you set that section up to do that function. I would like to see slippage and backdown in that area...

MY BAD! there is slippage and backdown. . duuuur. . I ment Max boost and Max EGT there hit instead. Typically, your either racing, or towing up a hill and you don't need to look at the guage all the time to check things and remember and stuff. I would like to see a tattletail for EGT and Boost.





Also, anyone else having problems wherethe upper right corner jumps back to "0". My last box did that a little, this one I just put on today does alot, maybe it needs to be "broke in" I dunno. I hope Idon't have to swap out another one. it's getting cold out.





DLegate, I did see 5018% today stock tires, just raining, in 4x4 and WOT in 6th till about 80-ish. It beeped at 40psi of boost, I backed down and look at t he records and bingo, 5018% of back down.

 

[Matt400]

I would like to see a tattletail for EGT and Boost.

That was a nice feature of the SPA gauge in my 03. I could recall highest number attained, zero it out and make the same run on a different setting for comparison. It would be nice if Attitude did that.

 

[Matt400]

Maybe you all can email him at -- email address removed -- and ask if there is a specific flash needed for your particular truck.

Thanks, I did just that and got a quick reply. 03-04 Trucks use instructions in the kit for the jumper selection in the box for specific trans and ratio's.

The 04. 5-05's require specific software so trans and ratio will need to be loaded before purchase.



Thanks for his email.

 

[RChamberlain]

when I took mine in they gave me one back that said on the box it was programed for my 6 speed

 

[KDillard]

MAtt does it run better now? Can you tell a big difference in drivability/ performance?

 

[KDillard]

Rchamberlin... . did you ask about whether or not it was programmed for your gear ratio as well?

 

[RChamberlain]

Rchamberlin... . did you ask about whether or not it was programmed for your gear ratio as well?

I did not but the did make me give back my additude and gave me a new one of them and said I had to use it or it would not work correctly

 

[KDillard]

sweet deal. I posted something about this a few weeks back when I first found out. Does it work any better for you?

 

[BBartels]

I just got the "HOT" version and I was told that there is a difference between Man. and Auto. I can see a huge difference now that it is setup for what I have!! I saw 38psi last night for the first time! Very impressed!

 

[Matt400]

MAtt does it run better now? Can you tell a big difference in drivability/ performance?

The one I installed was for a friends 03 so I just followed the jumper directions in the manual for his 3. 73 geared 5 speed. I am told mpg is up some on the #1 setting and #5 feels like it could break something.



Personally I drove it on #3 and SOP felt like a VA C3. 1 on #3

 

[KDillard]

Well i put mine back in temporarily until thursday when i take my truck in for my steering box to be replaced. Works like it should have on day one. Now I must give them a huge thumbs up on making this work finally. Pulls really hard on 5x5 and power is more constant. My max trans slip was only 6 percent and was launch it pretty hard.

 

[RChamberlain]

sweet deal. I posted something about this a few weeks back when I first found out. Does it work any better for you?

oh ya its works really good know I'm scared of level 4 and 5 cus of the stock turbo.