"Banks Brake"

[Murle]

Originally posted by SlyBones

He just responded yesterday.



Looking at the picture on the website, the kit seems to come with a downpipe. Well many here have 4" exhausts turbo back. I want to make sure their brake does not have some screwball mounting that only works with thier pipe. And that pricing will include the brake and kit, less the downpipe.

Yes I know it was just yesterday that he responded. Say like over 24 hrs ago. You would think he has the e-mail responded checked so they can answer the questions. Or are they trying to come up with another around about way to try and answer the questions to their advertising??? If it is false or if it is true.

 

[KatDiesel]

Give them some time...

Give them some time to think it over... ...



A quote from a recent movie : "This is one of those times where you want to be very clear about what you say. "



I have noticed the past few days, a few different Banks employess on the forums. There are 6 different registered Banks members if you'll look at the member lists. So they are reading at least... . I think.



We'll see what they say eventually I am sure.

 

[Murle]

Mabe so Kat, but when a person knows the correct answer they respond fairly quickly. Or they know the correct answer but don't want to admit the truth. Hummmm again.

 

[PeterT]

The Brake does not come with any fueling device. There are of course many ways available of achieving this additional fueling. The point is, the Banks Brake is designed with improved airflow in mind rather than just inserting a butterfly in the exhaust stream that may be restrictive in its non-operational state.



The system does necessitate a different turbine outlet pipe (it will not bolt up directly to the factory turbine outlet pipe) and thus a 4” pipe will be included with the system. We will most likely make two systems available, one that can mate up to the factory exhaust system at some point, and one that can mate to a Banks 4” exhaust.



Don’t get too worked up about pricing just yet. The pricing on the system for the Dodge has not been finalized. Any price figures that have been seen apply to the Ford Power Stroke. That system requires a vacuum pump that will not be necessary on the Dodge, so the price will likely be lower than the Ford.



As far as not answering right away, well, what can I say, I do have a lot going on, and sometimes other things take precedence. I sometimes find myself wondering what some of you guys do for a living that allows you the time to be watching these threads so closely! Anyway, if you feel like you haven’t gotten a quick enough response, you can always e-mail me and I will get back to you as quickly as possible.



Peter Treydte

Director of Technical Communications

Banks Power

 

[Murle]

"As far as not answering right away, well, what can I say, I do have a lot going on, and sometimes other things take precedence. I sometimes find myself wondering what some of you guys do for a living that allows you the time to be watching these threads so closely! Anyway, if you feel like you haven’t gotten a quick enough response, you can always e-mail me and I will get back to you as quickly as possible. "



The reason that I have time to watch and check these forms is because I take care of my business so that I have time to do what I like to do. You might try it sometime.

 

[NVR FNSH]

might have other things to do....

Gee, Murle - you think they might have other things to do besides sit in front of a computer and wait for someone to post a reply on TDR? Maybe he was looking at ford-diesel.com or the chevy diesel page or one of the many other brand/model specific websites that Banks makes parts for?



Edit since Murle replied while I was typing: Murle - don't be an ass.



Brian

 

[NVR FNSH]

I'm waiting....

gee, it's been about 30 minutes Murle. Is something else taking precedence?



Brian

 

[Murle]

Brian, I'm not being a ass. Just replied that I take care of business. I happen to be at the computer when I got a e-mail that let me know there was a post being posted.



I have a small business and I can hear when someone is sending a e-mail message. I try to respond with in 10 min. of the e-mail. Some times I make it and some time I don't, but I try to respond within 1 hr.



By the way I get about 150 e-mails a day. So practice makes perfect.



Sorry,but my customers like the way I respond quickly to their e-mails. And yes all are important. I also have time to repair guns and wait on the front counter. We are busy all the time but no one goes unattented to. During normal business hours. Even you will get a response quickly.

 

[NVR FNSH]

I know I'm being a smart-ass, but these posts flaming Banks are really getting on my nerves. There are some legitimate concerns/questions but a lot of this stuff is petty. It's great that you can reply to emails w/in 10 minutes - some of us can't. Heck, I don't respond to email/voicemail from my boss w/in 10 minutes



Brian

 

[BPINE]

Peter thanks for the response, it is always good to think of the big picture while developing a new product but some of the advertising can get very misleading. So it might be better off to say that the brake has the potential for 15 to 30 more HP if additional fueling is added.

 

[Fireman]

Devil's Advocate

I got a different read. I took it that other exhaust brakes had more backpressure, therefore robbing one of 15-30 hp but the Banks does not. See ? Kind of like an old racing tuner once told me, " remove weight from the machine and you get 'free' horse power. " You really don't get any extra horse power, you just change the power to weight ratio. Anyway, that is how I perceived their claim. It's in there, between the lines.



Fireman

 

[KatDiesel]

What about automatic transmission owners, is the brake going to be sold to them as well? Will the "won't void your warrenty" statement still be claimed?



I am just playing devils advocate here to get some info out in the open.

 

[Diesel Freak]

Re: Devil's Advocate

Originally posted by fireman56

I got a different read. I took it that other exhaust brakes had more backpressure, therefore robbing one of 15-30 hp but the Banks does not. See ? Kind of like an old racing tuner once told me, " remove weight from the machine and you get 'free' horse power. " You really don't get any extra horse power, you just change the power to weight ratio. Anyway, that is how I perceived their claim. It's in there, between the lines.



Fireman

That is exactly how I took it.



The design looks good on paper... there is a rough cross sectional view in the new TDR issue.

I have been toying with the idea of an E-Brake for a while, but I did not like the possibility of an open butterfly valve causing high turbulence so close to the turbine outlet, effectively defeating the flared 3' to 4' section of my downpipe. Before I add DD3's I need to uncork my turbo a little more. I think a PDR modified HX-35 with a 14cm^3 housing would compliment the Banks E-Brake very nicely.