Banks PowerPDA Installed

[TCDiesel]

real dyno numbers from your setup - inquiring minds want to know... .

We"ll He it is,This is with all settings At Stock ,and PowerPDA set at 100% fueling . When we Dyno at 200% The operator Deleted the run By accident the Run was 365Rwhp TQ684. the Stock Run is 205Rwhp TQ409.

The other Run was with the T-Dog at Extreme and the PoweredPDA on level SL and fueling 100% 464Rwhp TQ 933.

Crazy Larry Show No change from Extreme With/without the PowerPDA.

The New PowerPDA adds 160Hp TQ280

I have No idea why Crazy Larry fell on his face Today.

 

[qzilla]

Yes the Six-Gun tuner for the Dodge and LB7 ,Cannot Be upgraded to the New PowerPDA. Hardware Changes are necessary and Both Dodge and LB7 Tuners are Not compatible. This was not do to Lack of effort From Banks, the PowerPDA is Light-years Ahead of any other manufacturer products,T&C has it own standards and we Test every Product we sell,The first test we conduct is complete power failure to the Unit,We require that the Vehicle start and Drive as stock with no effect found other than the Lost of power from the Tuner,We found that a No start condition and poor operation in Most. T&C Will NOT Beta test anyone"s product. If the manufacturer supplies the product and performs well we will offer it. We do not Put Priority on who has the higher HP rating,its never ending and a snare. The Best formula practice in the this Business is (Greater HP/TQ +safety = Cost).

How exactly do you determine a complete power failure? Do you zap the micro controller?



For those that have an older 6gun our monitor works just fine. It is different than the PDA, but it also has a lot of things the PDA does not. I like the idea of a PDA, but I think it is silly that they do not support the older models. Our monitor will provide de-fueling and warnings on a lot of parameters.

 

[TCDiesel]

Quad, I don"t Know at this time,That what so baffling I have the 2. 0. 4 in one down-loader and the Crazy Larry 2. 2. 5 in another, No change in HP from 2. 0. 4 Extreme and CL 2. 2. 5.



We"ll Quad it was not lack of effort GBE account that LB7 & Dodge Tuners cannot be upgraded ,Hardware changes are necessary,AT any rate Previous owners of the Six-Gun Tuners LB7 and Dodge ,T&C offers the New PowerPDA at cost Plus $20. 00 Handling charge. (Prove of Purchase will be necessary).

 

[Benson]

The PDA is on my short list of modules to watch. Been watching for a while. Still haven't made a decision but no hurry. Fun to watch the Banks bashers though.

 

[TCDiesel]

At times Banks bashers are justified, they have legit complaints that need to be handled quick and fair. The best customer service is to make the product right the first time,it always seem their is not enough time to it right the first time but plenty of time to do it twice.

 

[MStaggs]

I have a two month old 6 gun and speedloader and even it is not compatible with the PDA. I think it is utter BS! :{

Anyone want to buy it? New in the box still.

 

[TCDiesel]

I have a two month old 6 gun and speedloader and even it is not compatible with the PDA. I think it is utter BS! :{

Anyone want to buy it? New in the box still.

Yep I hear yea ... . MStagg contact us, T&C has Taken Trade on the Six-Gun Tuner and Auction them on EBay ( T&C will only use EBay for use items only) They generally go for $300. 00 to 350. 00 ,So depending on what you paid for the Six-Gun, and the Purchasing the PowerPDA from T&C it about the same cost, Although allot more hassle, contact us I will see what I can do. Selling BANKS product at cost is a Violation of our security agreement with BANKS. I see Previous Owners point that Bought the Six-Tuner under the impression it was compatible with the PowerPDA.

 

[qzilla]

Quad, I don"t Know at this time,That what so baffling I have the 2. 0. 4 in one down-loader and the Crazy Larry 2. 2. 5 in another, No change in HP from 2. 0. 4 Extreme and CL 2. 2. 5.



We"ll Quad it was not lack of effort GBE account that LB7 & Dodge Tuners cannot be upgraded ,Hardware changes are necessary,AT any rate Previous owners of the Six-Gun Tuners LB7 and Dodge ,T&C offers the New PowerPDA at cost Plus $20. 00 Handling charge. (Prove of Purchase will be necessary).

I know that you take care of your customers and I think that is great, but most vendors won't or can't do that. There are a lot of vendors that would go out of business if they tried to help like you are.



I still think it is crazy that even really recent 6 guns don't work with the PDA. I mean Banks has been hyping the PDA for a LONG time.

 

[TCDiesel]

I agree this is the area BANKS needs better directions... Now its a case of Damage control...



Take a look at Bully Dogs Power Pup is it upgradeable to the T-Dog NO,Do I condemn them for it NO. . I have trust that great effort was made... This Happen"s twice shame on BANKS/Bully Dog.

 

[qzilla]

Well, the BD is a different product, not an add on.



The PDA is useless without the docking station and a 6 Gun. The tripledog is a different part than the powerpup. It was designed to do different things, so I am not sure you can shame them for that.

 

[TCDiesel]

Quad, You are Picking at Shaw's, The PowerPDA for the Dodge and LB7 is completely different,It"s only the casing that look the same,Also I mention to BANKS to Label the PowerPDA as such.

 

[TCDiesel]

Well, the BD is a different product, not an add on.



The PDA is useless without the docking station and a 6 Gun. The tripledog is a different part than the powerpup. It was designed to do different things, so I am not sure you can shame them for that.

it"s only shame if they do it twice.

 

[osiris]

so does that mean with the banks pda adding close to 160 HP that it will contend with the edge juice or hot juice? forgive me i am still trying to learn here... also are the safety checks fairly similar for both "chips" i kinda like the edge right now cuz of the lack of pressure being added. maybe you can help me with this todd? thanks

 

[jayhawktrailers.com]

TWEST do you take the turbo off when installing the pyro probe, or do you have a trick for keeping the shavings out

 

[TCDiesel]

so does that mean with the banks pda adding close to 160 HP that it will contend with the edge juice or hot juice? forgive me i am still trying to learn here... also are the safety checks fairly similar for both "chips" i kinda like the edge right now cuz of the lack of pressure being added. maybe you can help me with this todd? thanks

The PowerPDA keeps a log, when I stack it with the T-Dog and change settings (0n the T-dog)the PDA Beeps a audible and shows a engine Icon, You than can proceed to engine diagnostic and view the code present in the E2,You have to clear the log of the know value,than return to menu and restart to operating screen and turn truck off and restart to create a new log, if the parameters are not met the E will demand a correction. This is just one feature of the Hundreds it has. I have posted many times the pressure is under Bosch limits,I cannot remember a customer complaint or a post on the on rail or injector damage,I won"t comment on Edge Products other they could Not meet are standards,One Area was complete power failure to the unit cannot affect the operation of the vehicle,It should start and operate as normal on stock power.

 

[TCDiesel]

TWEST do you take the turbo off when installing the pyro probe, or do you have a trick for keeping the shavings out

We have a Micro attachment for our Vac, also we use the Mirco site ,We peek inside to make sure we have all the shaving. If you have a right angle drill and a good shop vac, have one person drill and the other vacuum the shavings. Now when you Tap put lots of grease on it. Now check with magnet. the very very small shaving will have no effect on the exhaust turbine and will fine their way out with no damage.

Generally turbo damage results when you use a pilot bit that the tip breaks off,you can fish for hours and never get it out,Some get lucky and get it quickly,if you Don"t remove Turbo.

 

[jayhawktrailers.com]

thanks twest hope to be installing a pda in the bosses truck within the next week. I haven't talked him into the technicooler yet, but it'll be only a matter of time before that plastic intercooler fails. I tried to get him to do it when we put the buckstop bumper. coulda had alot more room to work on it.

 

[TCDiesel]

thanks twest hope to be installing a pda in the bosses truck within the next week. I haven't talked him into the technicooler yet, but it'll be only a matter of time before that plastic intercooler fails. I tried to get him to do it when we put the buckstop bumper. coulda had alot more room to work on it.

Any Questions on the Install contact us, Also most of the customers Purchase the E2 from us loaded with the software ( cost Much less),Some have delete the card By Mistake although it"s a easy fix, If your a computer Guy You will Have No Problem. after the first Hotsync it a piece of cake. The PowerPDA is INTERNET Upgradeable. I look for more features to be available late summer when all the 06 stuff is done.

 

[jayhawktrailers.com]

I bought the pda previously I just wanted to play mp3's on my road trips in the old 97. I did figure out how to hot sink the mp3s, but it took me awhile as I'm no computer dude. I just like to get on the web and read great forums like TDR

 

[Benson]

Banks (and most others) rate their power increases compared to the '03 SO CA (235hp) version. It says so in their test brochure. So not that huge of a power increase for you 325 guys.