Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting Bear Study

[BIGNASTY]

A while back there was a post about helping my Nephew with his Theseus and college project. We had another meeting and these are some pics that the group took when they tagged the bears in 07. All I can add to the comment is that THESE FOLKS ARE FRIGGIN NUTS. The little bears can rip you apart and they would just be playing around. And some CRAZY PERSON is actually going to climb down some hole and pull these now 5 year old out and take a look :-laf:-laf





ILL STAY BACK WITH THE MULES AND TAKE HIGH COVER WITH MY MARLIN

 

[GHarman]

BIG, I thought "live baiting" bears was illegal:-laf! GregH

 

[BIGNASTY]

No kidding Greg. I asked BIL if he thought about this. And he didnt say a word. I have NEVER seen him I dont want to use afraid but dont know what else. We have seen Grizz rip into an ELK carcass at distance and it scared the crap out of me then and that was thru a spotting scope A LONG WAY AWAY. BIL said that they would pull bears out with his mule. I guess if things go south he could use the death as a rite off on taxes the following year. My boys and I are staying away from the crazies. Wonder just how long I can go without sleep in camp :-laf look at the claws on the little dude on the left bottom. JUST INCASE I FORGET GREG THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THE MARLIN :-laf

 

[GHarman]

BIG, Glad I could help! I'd be real spooky my-own-self! GregH

 

[BIGNASTY]

The girl in the pic and I are at odds with each other (I would like to have her at the end of a punch) I made the comment about endangering the bear. She thru her hands up and said how is cuddling the cub endangering it. I think that WILD animals should be just that WILD. She by picking up the cub and leaving her sent on the bear and on its mind might make the bear less Leary of humans and COULD leed to its demise. She came back that the bear doesn't know that. SO NOW YOUR A BEAR MIND READER ? I wish I could have gone to college and learn to read the mind of animals . I can see doing what they are doing to help the bear but leave the NURTICHERING part to MAMA BEAR.

Forest Dept. said He has a point there. She sees this as some sort of *F in * trip to the zoo I cant stand people that have no clue and because they have some piece of paper that makes them smart they actually believe it does, common sense is the best kind of smarts and that is in short supply

 

[GHarman]

Yep! The bears are doing what they do best, EAT. Eating SMART is included:-laf.

Yeah, I've met them types. GregH



Wildlife author killed, eaten by bears he loved: Timothy Treadwell | Alaska news at adn.com



Man-eating bears kill two scientists and lay siege to survivors trapped in remote forest base | Mail Online

 

[BIGNASTY]

Thanks Greg Im going to take this to her and she will say well I dont have to worry about that Im not a man (and then she has a STUPID LAUGH that grates me. ) I told my Nephew that HE IS GOING TO OWE ME OWE ME BIG TIME:-laf:-laf









Man-eating bears kill two scientists and lay siege to survivors trapped in remote forest base

 

[GHarman]

BIG, Sounds like emotion and subjectivism at its best! Ask her, "Where's the objectivity and the Science" to back her position? Hands in the air are a sure sign she is on her own pilgrimage! She is acting like a pentecostal with her personal interpretation of "what the bears need". They did fine without her, all these Winters!

PS! She better not be menustrating during her "endeavor" ! While documentation is mixed on the subject. Here some guidelines that may help, or get you into trouble:-l GregH



http://www.yellowstone-natl-park.com/bearsmen.pdf

 

[BIGNASTY]

Thanks for the info Greg she will say someone male must have wrote it. :-laf

Got my revenge anyway. We had the meeting at our house two reasons one it was halfway for everyone and two the wife likes to have the meeting here so she can entertain she likes to make the food and put on the dog so to speak. Ya know she misses that kind of thing having people over so I dont say anything other than if it makes her happy let's do it. So after we all talked and ate pre dinner snacks and had drinks they wanted to see our place before it got dark so we took them on the grand tour.



She and the others wanted to see the mules that my Nephew had told them about because they are so smart. I open up the barn doors and the guy's said wow this looks like a museum and the gang came to the stall doors to see what was going on. The Girls thought that it should be updated and it looked like something out of history books. I took that as a compliment. :-laf



The Guy from the Dept of Forestry looked around and said I want to move in with you please. Most were impressed with the way that I have made it into a kind of time machine to go back to the way it was done in the day of the pioneer . It's my own little way of leaving this hell bent for destruction world that we live in today.



Any way the girl that I have problems with started to walk over to Earl and I said I would watch out for him. And she said ahhhhh hes just a big handsome guy. She had on a bunch of perfume (I wonder what are they trying to cover up with that much) But Earls nostrils started flaring and ears went up I said I really think you might want to get away from him. But she wouldn't listen (good) and Earl hocked up a baseball size snoot on her. Her boyfriend said that maybe you should start listening to these guy's dear seems like they know what the heck is going on. I gave the gang apples and Earl got two. :-laf

 

[Simplysmn]

I Love your Stories Big Your Alright in my book

 

[KLauber]

Big, give Earl another apple for my late Dad and for my son Will, its his middle name too!

 

[BIGNASTY]

No problem Ken I named my mules after the guy in Red's Meadows mule packing station that taught me how to work the mule's Jacob Earl Daisy. Foulest little man that ever has been and drank like a sailor on leave but had a way with animals and I was lucky enough to learn from him. Apples all around.

 

[HHhuntitall]

HA!! Stupid tree hugger (bear)!! BIG, there is definitely something to the menstrual topic. I had a stud that hated women to begin with, but he usually behaved himself around me, as I'd make his life miserable if he didn't... ... I had some friends of a girl I was dating around the place I was living, my girlfriend was scared to death of this big booger, but these girls thought it'd be fun to "Pet the pretty horsie"!! He didn't want any part of it!! He'd charge the fence and try to bite the hell out of 'em! Ears laid back, teeth bared, rearing up to paw, squealing like a banshee!! He couldn't stand the smell, I guess!! I'd raise my voice, and he'd got to the back of the pen, but he'd keep his ears back and paw a hole!! They came back another time, and he was fine, which made me wonder, WTH?. Another girlfriend I had, she wasn't scared of him at all, rode him quite a bit, but if she was raggin' he'd try to buck her off(usually succeeding!), try to kick her, and just be mean in general! He'd lay his ears back at girls at ranch rodeos and squeal at 'em. I'd run a rowel up his shoulder and he'd be good for a while, and then he'd do it again. Probably the reason I sold him.



And on the bear cubs, you are absolutely right. I've seen coyotes and mountain lions kill or abandon their offspring if they smelled like a human. Deer and cows will do it, too. It wouldn't surprise me if the cubs died after being handled like that. Bears are usually smarter than cows, but if that sow has an active fear of man, she might have abandoned 'em, or even killed 'em. Especially if the dumbass... . oops, I mean woman was wearing so much perfume, which would have easily been transferred alllllllll over that cub!!



The biggest problem is that those people haven't lived in the real world. They've never been afraid for their lives, from man nor beast. They've never been hungry, hunted, or shot at! Her worst scare was probably when she was texting and almost ran a red light, while trying to beat closing time to StarSmucks!!! They have no concept of life and death, nor the raw power a predator, such as bear, has. They've been sippin' the cool-aid while watching Disney cartoons!!! BAH!! And your MULE knows it!! That perfume is actually the after affects of too much Cool-aid!!

 

[HHhuntitall]

And then get me started on their taking for granted electricity and running water!!!! BAHHHHH!!! They look down on your barn, but when the fit hits the shan, they'll be wanting to move in with you!! People like us will be the only ones around who have heat, water, and light, let alone the ability to grow our own food and process it! And they can't work or pull their own weight, so they're absolutely useless!! They're a burden! And when it comes to feeding my kids or them, you know what the answer is!!



... . someone take this soapbox before I fall through it... ... .

 

[BIGNASTY]

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THANKS for chiming in HH Its good to hear from one that's been there done that ,it was hard to contain my laughter when Earl shot that baseball SNOOT ROCKET on her. He just does NOT like perfume/flowers/candy/or anything that smells sweet or flowery. I will be glad when this is over , we said that we would help our Nephew and like the other 12 we will do it. But it doesnt mean I have to like it. On the other hand I have got all the TOPO maps and when I picked them up I was asked if I was planning a survival trip. Its a really remote area that we are heading to and I sure hope that these folks know that it just ain't around the corner if something goes south your ****** in a HUGE way. Been working the New mules into the gang. Last summer my Son picked up 4 from a packer at the Grand Canyon. We have had them in isolation from the rest of the gang untill we were sure that they didnt have any Medical problems or bugs to give to the others. Now its up to them to see where they fit in. Again good to hear from ya HH see you around



BIG

 

[HHhuntitall]

How're the mules workin' in for you?

 

[BIGNASTY]

The new mules are doing good they are finding the pecking order themselves. Jacob and Earl are the only ones broke to harness so they pull the plow and sled that we haul feed to the in-laws cattle. The others run along and are doing just what they always have done FOLLOW. They are a good addition to the string and they are finding out that we care I think that they were treated as just mules but to us its different and they can sense it.



They will have to do because we applied for a permit from the Forest Service to take more pack animals on trail but it was denied. So the 6 pack animals will have to do. Its kind of weird we can take as many riding stock as we have riders for but only so many pack stock. We will just have to trim equipment for our trips and should be no problem.



Thinking of equipment we got our other lantern and I also orderd one of the stove conversions for it that is one heck of a stove. We like to take soup and food on our day outings and that stove works great if you need one for you hunting trailer that would be a fine choice. The other question about how long the lantern ran on one fill up it was about 12 hours of light. I dont know if the starting and stopping had any affect on the time because I only ran it about 1 hour a day and it lasted 12 days.



Other than that I've just been counting the days untill I can get in the saddle again. My butt is getting soft and I need to work out some kinks before we go for our bear trip this spring. The wife laughs at me because I have checked and re checked the checking of the equipment she said it will be the most thought out trip in history. That's just the way i am its to late when you need it and it 50 miles back at home. Good to hear from ya HH be talking at ya soon





BIG