Best lift pump?

[231jasonS]

Im ready to upgrade my stock lift pump. ive got an 06 w/in tank OEM pump. Ive been watching the fuel pressure drop to 2-4 PSi on a hard pull with edge box. With the HOT it can drop to 0-1 PSI.



Im thinking the Glacier is the way to go, but has anyone just bought the Walbro pump and made thier own kit?



What options are out there? I dont want to spend $400 on a pump kit if i dont have to.

 

[231jasonS]

has anyone changed thier pumps?



need some advice, Fass... ... ... . Carter... ... ... ... Glacier? what else?

 

[firemansdiesel]

I have an BD Performance Aux. Lift Pump. It is a rebadge Carter Pump. It is rated up to 600 hp @ 95 GPH. I also got the fuel pressure light w/ it for an extra $75. It does not come w/ a water seperater and filter, but you can buy one to put in line. No problems so far. It works off of oil pressure so there is no hard start ups. The only negative is in really cold weather (0* or below)before it starts up (from people who live in cold climates mentioned). I never have to worry about those temps here in Norcal unless in the Sierra or Cascade areas.

 

[KWilkinson]

The new glacier fuel boss is a pretty slick setup. You can get the different pullies to change output, and i like the idea of watching fuel pressure rise instead of fall with RPM. My only concern is the maintenance and reliability of the belt... anyone have anything to add?

 

[Mark1si]

I like the fuel boss also. Idle psi is 10-14 psi depending on the fuel temp. Hot fuel doesnt hold higher idle pressure. I have smarty on 9 and the MP-8 set to 26k psi and the pressure wont drop below 20 psi on a rolling full pedal pull. Cant wait to get another TST to really see what the truck can do.

 

[rbattelle]

I run a custom setup with a Holley Blue pump. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one. Most people seem to like the Glacier setup best.

Ryan

 

[231jasonS]

Thanks for the feed back..... Ive seen the Holly black and the carters on 2nd gens but have only seen the walbro on a 3rd gen.



I dont think i want to commit to a belt driven pump. I thinking of the elec path.

Can i run a pump alone through the OEM lines? or do i need a bigger draw straw.

Do i need a regulator or a return line from the pump?

I like the Glaicer kit, but do i need to spend the money when i can buy the pump alone for $130?

 

[rbattelle]

My personal opinion is that Glacier is king right now because it requires no thought to install and it's quieter than FASS.

Whether you need a regulator and return line from the pump really comes down to how well the pump is matched to engine demand. In my opinion, the FCA provides all the regulation and return-to-tank required, so an auxiliary return system can be completely avoided if you design specifically to use what's already available.

You can run a pump through the OEM lines (I do) if you're stock, but if you're going up in power you probably want to upgrade the lines. My truck is stock, so I can't really speak to the requirements of fueling boxes.

Obviously, the key to a well-designed system is to look at the pressure and flow requirements at the engine and work toward that specification.

Ryan

 

[JDerbedrossian]

I am sure all the pump kits are great, but I have been running the CARTER set-up for about 65,000 miles and have not had a problem even with the smarty on the higher settings. Pump, some hose and clamps cant see it being more then 150 bucks. Better yet if it ever does go out go to your nearest auto parts store and buy one off the shelf.



Jake

 

[rbattelle]

Better yet if it ever does go out go to your nearest auto parts store and buy one off the shelf.

Jake

I think this is a great feature.



Ryan

 

[klaybus]

Walbro Baby! Been 14 months trouble free. After swapping out I believe my 6th Carter OEM POS LP I decided to give the Walbro a try. Thus far, it has been trouble free!



Clay

 

[GRoutzahn]

I like the Glaicer kit, but do i need to spend the money when i can buy the pump alone for $130?

This has been my concern as well. I can't justify spending over $300 in clamps, hoses, fittings, etc. Does anyone have a parts list to go w/ the Walbro pump?

 

[klaybus]

Don't try & be cheap as it'll cost you more in the end!

This has been my concern as well. I can't justify spending over $300 in clamps, hoses, fittings, etc. Does anyone have a parts list to go w/ the Walbro pump?

Thats funny there..... Excuse my laughter but great minds think alike! I too thought the same thing but by the time your done you will have spent more than Richard asks for his complete kit with instructions. I did buy just the pump & spent more than Richard asks for his kit when I was said & done. His instructions are on his website & I believe it has the parts listed as well. The only thing you will have problems sourcing will probably be the bypass valve.

Take it from me, your better off just buying the complete kit. I wish I had, I would have saved a few bucks & only been under my truck once working on the fuel system. Would have also saved multiple trips to the auto parts store.



Clay :-laf

 

[AFarmer]

I wouldn't settle for anything less than a FASS HPFP or a full FASS system. With a 6 year warranty and twice the quality of other systems you can't go wrong.

 

[Allnew2Me]

After going through a couple of stock pumps I looked at all the options also and decided to go with the FASS95. I don't see the need for all the extra filtering. The new FASS pumps are not at all noisy, in fact mine is quieter than the stock pump. I installed mine in a system that gives me a backup because it seems that all the electric pumps have problems at some point and I son't want to be left on the road. Here is a pic of my setup.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com...002/190424-no-more-lift-pump-troubles-me.html

I will admit that figuring it out was the hardest part, but it works great and I know I will never be stranded by a silly electric pump that goes out, at least not for more than the 2 minutes it takes to switch over to the backup.

 

[jnelson]

On my 2nc FASS (2 trucks). Really like. Best thing is the built in by-pass. Mine quit working (blew a fuse) and truck kept on running. But they are a little pricey.
The 6 year unlimited miles warranty aint bad either.

But to each their own.

 

[steved]

I have nearly 80k on my FASS, its been flawless.

My main reason for the FASS was the 3 micron filters (3u @99. 5%, 1u @95%)...

steved

 

[GRoutzahn]

Thats funny there..... Excuse my laughter but great minds think alike! I too thought the same thing but by the time your done you will have spent more than Richard asks for his complete kit with instructions. I did buy just the pump & spent more than Richard asks for his kit when I was said & done. His instructions are on his website & I believe it has the parts listed as well. The only thing you will have problems sourcing will probably be the bypass valve.

Take it from me, your better off just buying the complete kit. I wish I had, I would have saved a few bucks & only been under my truck once working on the fuel system. Would have also saved multiple trips to the auto parts store.



Clay :-laf

Well, dang. I'm glad you figured this out before me.

Thanks for the sacrifice! Guess I'll just buck up for the Glacier kit.

 

[AFarmer]

3 micron filtration is very important on the CR injection system.

 

[HOBrian]

This has been my concern as well. I can't justify spending over $300 in clamps, hoses, fittings, etc. Does anyone have a parts list to go w/ the Walbro pump?

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