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Can I get some ideas of the best or best looking or both options for going to 19.5 rims. I hate to give up my nice looking 20 inch rims but I want to go to a slide in that will be a wet weight of 4300lbs on my 2017 3500 SRW and I guess the stock are somewhere between 3400-3700 rim capacity.

I guess then what tire options have you found that work out well.

I looked at the Rickson site and I see a 245/70-19.5 and then a 285/70 that is 35inch diameter. It seems many use the 245 but would it not make sense if I am going to invest in all of this to go 285 to get the same/close to same overall diameter that my 20inch have AND move from around 4080 max load to 6395. Why not have the extra margin. Also, I assume max load is per tire not both.

Thanks in advance
 
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I ran the Vision Heavy Haulers as well on my 2020 Ram 3500. I bought them used with Cooper Roadmaster 253's They always had a bit of shake to them, I had them rebalanced twice, didn't fix it. I installed Centramatic wheel balancers, no difference. Installed centering rings, no change. I had Michelin XDS and XDE's installed and balanced with the equal beads in the tires. Better, but still shook.

So in July I ordered a 2022 Ram 3500 dually, it should be here in a week or so.

BTW, the equal balancing beads are a really bad idea for a truck camper application. We took the camper to my brother's in Tennessee and unloaded the camper in his driveway as we were staying there for a week. When I went to let air out of the rears so it rode a little better without the camper, one of the balancing beads got stuck in the valve stem, I couldn't get the valve stem to close. All the air came out, the tire went flat, and both beads came off the rim. Took a couple ratchet straps and some modification of his air chuck to get the beads sealed back on the rim.

Also, I think Rickson isn't making wheels anymore. You may want to give them a call to verify.
 
Also. Little confused that my stock rims rated at 3500. The axle weight on the door 7000 my actual weight at the scales over 3300 in the rear but the RAn data says my truck bed laid can be 4000. That would put me over the rim and rear axle ratings tech ically
 
Also. Little confused that my stock rims rated at 3500. The axle weight on the door 7000 my actual weight at the scales over 3300 in the rear but the RAn data says my truck bed laid can be 4000. That would put me over the rim and rear axle ratings tech ically

Don't think it says truck bed. Probably mentions payload and that is spread over both axles.
 
Correct payload but would not 99% of that 4000 going to be in the bed. So are we saying I can place a 4000 artic fix in my bed as well enough will be on the front wheels such that my stock rims at 3500 might be fine
 
Looks like a wet attic Fox 811sb plus my rear axle weight of 3480 with two adults will hit 8039. That’s even more than some 19.5 rims rated at 4000
 
While AF is a nice camper they are heavy. Best to stay with a non-slide 8.5' class such as a Nothern-lite 8-11, Lance 825, Laredo SC or Bundutec Roadrunner.
 
Yes, the tire capacity is per tire. Don't know what your truck is but you can calculate your payload with a trip across a scales. A crew short bed 4x4 base trim diesel 68RFE was 4070 pounds.

If your 20-inch wheels have the standard tires they are not 35s, more like 33.5, but revs per mile is more important. The 245/70-19.5 should be close, maybe give very slightly lower gearing (which would help with your added drag and mass). The 285/70-19.5 will have the effect of taller gearing, carries the extra ton because it's a different load range, and weighs about 50% more than the 245/70 (`135 lbs on alum wheel, `150 on steel).

You need to know where the center of gravity is on the camper to figure how much weight will go the front axle...I've seen a third of it on some long cabovers with minimal rear overhang.
 
Correct payload but would not 99% of that 4000 going to be in the bed. So are we saying I can place a 4000 artic fix in my bed as well enough will be on the front wheels such that my stock rims at 3500 might be fine

Depends! 5er most weight goes to the rear but the RAWR is your real limit.

Camper a lot of weight goes to front axle.
 
Camper a lot of weight goes to front axle.

All 3 truck camper I had put all most no additional weight on the front axle. Unloaded and camper loaded was with 100lb of each other on the front axle even with over 4K added to the rear. Now I've always run long beds so the short bed my be different but most truck campers are designed with a CG that is almost directly over to 6" in front of the rear axle.
 
If the axle rating is 7000lb I do not believe that the rims are rated for only 3500lb, that would be nonsense.

By the way, one can buy 4500lb aftermarket rims in different sizes.
That's what I did with my heavy camper.

The 19.5er were nice but way to rough on the road, like driving on ball bearings, so I got rid of them.
That was a hell of an expensive experiment....
 
Yep. Apparently they design the rims to be half the axle load each. Sure we know there is some tolerance built in but I don’t want to run at capacity

wolf creek makes a slide in that will end up about 1000 lighter than the af811 but no slide and 1 vs 2 in thick walls. Should be enough insulation for me as I don’t go out in winter much at all.

ideally would like to work with current stock wheels. And 7000 axle weight seems to be my real limit if at 35-39 inch COG doesn’t put a third on the front but it sounds like no
 
Ok I just read that my trucks 7k axle rating is related to stock tire capacity so that upgrading tires like I have can raise the axle capacity The article said up to 3k. That makes more sense but they should have an axle limit for the axle the. We can spec wheels and tires to cover our payload
 
So now I am back not worrying about the axle but rim limit but the article about rims said they build to half the axle rating so this sound circular. The dodge site had stock rims at 3500 but is that really their limit or again we’re they factoring in stock tires which you would think they would not since we can easily fine 4000 lbs rated tires.
 
While we discourage exceeding the GVWR/payload rating of your truck, there is one little-known trick employed by more knowledgeable pickup truck owner’s to squeeze out even more cargo hauling capability out of their trucks. This involves the Gross Axle Weight Ratings (GAWRs) of each truck. The GAWRs listed on each truck’s payload sticker are greatly limited by the OEM tires. If you research the actual GAWRs with the axle manufacturer you’ll probably be surprised to learn that you have several hundreds, if not thousands, of additional pounds of cargo carrying capacity (this is especially true with the AAM 11.5 rear axle found on our 2013 Ram 3500, which has a 10,000-pound GAWR rating, 3,000 pounds more than the GAWR given by FCA). You can tap into this additional cargo carrying capacity by simply buying better wheels and tires with higher load ratings. For example, the 275/70R18E Cooper Discoverer AT-XLT tires we bought for our truck have a 3,640 pound load rating; the Ion rims, 4,000 pounds each. Wheels and tires rated even higher than these can be purchased.
 
BTW, the equal balancing beads are a really bad idea for a truck camper application. We took the camper to my brother's in Tennessee and unloaded the camper in his driveway as we were staying there for a week. When I went to let air out of the rears so it rode a little better without the camper, one of the balancing beads got stuck in the valve stem, I couldn't get the valve stem to close. All the air came out, the tire went flat, and both beads came off the rim. Took a couple ratchet straps and some modification of his air chuck to get the beads sealed back on the rim.

I don’t use a slide-in but I do use beads and air my tires up and down all the time. A bead getting stuck in the valve stem core happens but less than 10% of the time. Often just pressuring the valve stem release all the way in and releasing will free the bead but if that doesn’t work a shot of compressed air with a tire chuck will clean it out. In all the times I’ve had a stuck bead only once did I have to pull the valve core out to clean it. I simply placed the rubber valve stem cap on after pulling the core and it stopped leaking.

So while it does happen it shouldn’t dissuade anyone from using them as the ride is so much better with them.

When I ran 19.5’s I used beads in my M608Z’s and they were very smooth, unlike a friend who had the same tires and a road force balance…3 times.

Correct payload but would not 99% of that 4000 going to be in the bed. So are we saying I can place a 4000 artic fix in my bed as well enough will be on the front wheels such that my stock rims at 3500 might be fine

It depends on where the CG is. If the CG is aft of the axle then it could actually put more than 4K lbs on the rear axle as it will pull some weight from the front axle. This is why a WDH is used on tongue heavy bumper pull trailers.

If you know the CG location, the wheelbase, and the weight you can calculate how much will go on the front and rear axles.

Ideally the CG would be forward of the axle to spread the load and help the handling characteristics.

Look at the newer Furds or the Tundra and you’ll notice how far back the axle is in the bed. This improves weight balance and weight on the front axle with a heavy payload.

While we discourage exceeding the GVWR/payload rating of your truck, there is one little-known trick employed by more knowledgeable pickup truck owner’s to squeeze out even more cargo hauling capability out of their trucks. This involves the Gross Axle Weight Ratings (GAWRs) of each truck. The GAWRs listed on each truck’s payload sticker are greatly limited by the OEM tires. If you research the actual GAWRs with the axle manufacturer you’ll probably be surprised to learn that you have several hundreds, if not thousands, of additional pounds of cargo carrying capacity (this is especially true with the AAM 11.5 rear axle found on our 2013 Ram 3500, which has a 10,000-pound GAWR rating, 3,000 pounds more than the GAWR given by FCA). You can tap into this additional cargo carrying capacity by simply buying better wheels and tires with higher load ratings. For example, the 275/70R18E Cooper Discoverer AT-XLT tires we bought for our truck have a 3,640 pound load rating; the Ion rims, 4,000 pounds each. Wheels and tires rated even higher than these can be purchased.

Yes the AAM 11.5 is rated at much more than the RAWR. The 2005 version was 10,120lbs and the axle has been upgraded several times since then.

That doesn’t mean you can load it that heavy thou, as there are other considerations such as suspension and frame ratings.

Basically regardless of the tires you run I wouldn’t exceed the RAWR of a DRW truck from the same generation. That’s really only an option on 265/70R19.5 tires or larger thou. 245/70R19.5 tires don’t often have the ratings to exceed OEM DRW ratings.


BTW: the factory axle limit is more than just the axle, it’s the truck as built and sold. So everything comes into play, the tires, suspension, brakes, frame, wheels, etc.

Luckily we know the differences SRW to DRW and can make some adjustments with the proper wheels and tires

As for the OEM wheel ratings they are what they are and you can’t do much about that. I’ve loaded my tires to 100-102% of their ratings which exceeds my wheel ratings but I haven’t lost sleep over it. The factory wheels are strong and I believe they are underrated but it’s not feasible for me to prove that.
 
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All 3 truck camper I had put all most no additional weight on the front axle. Unloaded and camper loaded was with 100lb of each other on the front axle even with over 4K added to the rear. Now I've always run long beds so the short bed my be different but most truck campers are designed with a CG that is almost directly over to 6" in front of the rear axle.

yours must hang past the rear quite a bit?
 
yours must hang past the rear quite a bit?
Some more than others Shortest was a 8.5' longest was a 11' all in a 8' bed. They all had a Center of Gravity that was just in front (within 3") of the rear axle. Truck campers are designed to have the CG just ahead of the rear axle the models that are short and long bed models have the CG so they work with a short bed so it will be further forward when used on a long bed. Slide outs tend to push the CG rearward.
 
Can I get some ideas of the best or best looking or both options for going to 19.5 rims. I hate to give up my nice looking 20 inch rims but I want to go to a slide in that will be a wet weight of 4300lbs on my 2017 3500 SRW and I guess the stock are somewhere between 3400-3700 rim capacity.

I guess then what tire options have you found that work out well.

I looked at the Rickson site and I see a 245/70-19.5 and then a 285/70 that is 35inch diameter. It seems many use the 245 but would it not make sense if I am going to invest in all of this to go 285 to get the same/close to same overall diameter that my 20inch have AND move from around 4080 max load to 6395. Why not have the extra margin. Also, I assume max load is per tire not both.

Thanks in advance

I went with forged aluminum Ricksons polished by me, the best looking IMHO 19.5"s ( not readily available)

I went with Toyo M 608Z 245/70R19.5 136 4900lb cap, and are exactly the dia as my stock 20 inchers .

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